jeffismagic Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Based upon the fact McDermott isn't in love with Pat Mahomes. This month long obsession/freak out was inevitable no matter what we did. This is a Beane thread. If you want to discuss Mahomes there is another thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 @buffalobills You guys new here? Welcome aboard. #OneBuffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 This is a Beane thread. If you want to discuss Mahomes there is another thread. This is a Bills forum yet you still have a Chiefs backup as your avatar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 This is a Bills forum yet you still have a Chiefs backup as your avatar I don't recall your avatar playing for the Buffalo Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted May 11, 2017 Author Share Posted May 11, 2017 Based upon every key decision he has made since he has been here. The only hope for this pair rests in Beane having a bigger vision and convincing Sean to broaden his horizons. Sorry, dude, you'll have to be a touch more specific with your "can't see the big picture" assertion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 (edited) Sorry, dude, you'll have to be a touch more specific with your "can't see the big picture" assertion. If someone has a McDermott thread I will be glad to create an itemized list. This is a Beane thread. Edited May 11, 2017 by jeffismagic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 I don't recall your avatar playing for the Buffalo Bills. You don't remember the "All in the Hips" team of 95? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted May 11, 2017 Author Share Posted May 11, 2017 If someone has a McDermott thread I will be glad to create an itemized list. This is a Beane thread. Nice cop-out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 (edited) Nice cop-out. If you start a McDermott thread based on what he has done so far I will be more than happy to contribute to it. Edited May 11, 2017 by jeffismagic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 If you start a McDermott thread based on what he has done so far I will be more than happy to contribute to it. Please don't. Do you never rest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Please don't. Do you never rest? .....c'mon Augie, you'd think the rarified air on his HIGH HORSE would cause him to think otherwise....not a fuggin' chance......self appointed "Prince of the Bully pulpit"....good Lord............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Sorry, dude, you'll have to be a touch more specific with your "can't see the big picture" assertion. If you allow me I'll answer your question directed at Jeff because the both of us are very aligned on this issue. We both believe that the first priority of this franchise is to get a good qb prospect or a good qb by any means on the roster sooner rather than later. I believe, as he does, that the Bills were in a good position to draft a high end prospect in Mahomes or Watkins with our first round pick at the ten spot. McDermott traded out of the spot allowing KC to draft a qb that at the time our denuded GM, Whaley, wanted to do. McDermott who was in control of the football operation at the draft decided to trade down to acquire more picks. He used the lower pick to select a cb and pocketed a first round pick for next year. Was it the right move for the defensive oriented HC to make? My opinion is no but the majority of people believe otherwise. My contention (and his) is that this vacillating mind-set to use a high pick on a qb in the draft has resulted in this franchise to be stuck in the muck of mediocrity for more than a generation. The Bills have not had a legitimate franchise qb since the retirement of Kelly. That is more than two decades ago. It's not surprising that our lack of participation in the playoffs very much parallels the time where we have had a void at that position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted May 12, 2017 Author Share Posted May 12, 2017 If you allow me I'll answer your question directed at Jeff because the both of us are very aligned on this issue. We both believe that the first priority of this franchise is to get a good qb prospect or a good qb by any means on the roster sooner rather than later. I believe, as he does, that the Bills were in a good position to draft a high end prospect in Mahomes or Watkins with our first round pick at the ten spot. McDermott traded out of the spot allowing KC to draft a qb that at the time our denuded GM, Whaley, wanted to do. McDermott who was in control of the football operation at the draft decided to trade down to acquire more picks. He used the lower pick to select a cb and pocketed a first round pick for next year. Was it the right move for the defensive oriented HC to make? My opinion is no but the majority of people believe otherwise. My contention (and his) is that this vacillating mind-set to use a high pick on a qb in the draft has resulted in this franchise to be stuck in the muck of mediocrity for more than a generation. The Bills have not had a legitimate franchise qb since the retirement of Kelly. That is more than two decades ago. It's not surprising that our lack of participation in the playoffs very much parallels the time where we have had a void at that position. Thanks for answering. I vehemently disagree that not selecting a QB with pick #10 in a draft devoid of any "sure fire" franchise players at the position equates to "not seeing the big picture." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 The success of the pairing rests on Beane's ability to have a football vision and sell Sean on it. I see Sean as another defensive coordinator coach who lacks the ability to see the big picture and is going to try Jauron his way to wins with a bend but don't break defense. Does Beane have a vision? Can he sell it to Sean? I eagerly await the Beane press conference. What makes you think he cant see the big picture? Is there anything to substantiate that? Or,is it just how "you see" it?He's done nothing either way to this point... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 @buffalobills You guys new here? Welcome aboard. #OneBuffalo Beane looks like Botterrill's intern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Josh Norman is a fan @j_no24 Well that's escalated quickly, @buffalobills You guys got a Gem' in my guy Beane.. No need for luck with him💯 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Josh Norman is a fan @j_no24 Well that's escalated quickly, @buffalobills You guys got a Gem' in my guy Beane.. No need for luck with him No hard feelings? Huh.... Good sign, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 (edited) No hard feelings? Huh.... Good sign, I guess. Josh Norman is with the Redskins now. Can't imagine he is harboring hard feelings for us snatching his old GM from his old team. Or am I misinterpreting? Edited May 13, 2017 by What a Tuel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianFan Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 I have the most luke-warm impressions about this hire and this tandem. Maybe it's a good thing. My expectations are low for these two. I won't be surprised if Bills are still a middling team by their end of their tenure 4 years is it? from now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 This is another interview with Beane on Adam Schefter's podcast. It was worth a listen imo. Again didn't come away thinking he is too high on TT. He does bring up how he heard talk about Bills drafting up ahead of them, etc. http://m.espn.com/general/play?id=19394502 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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