Bill_with_it Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 I think you were high when typing this. I had to get high to understand itNope just pointing out that players have responsibilities and much like any drug itvwill affect their abilities to perform their duties. As such some of the players duties arevto protect the qb, I wouldnt want my 100 mill franchise qb protected by a high as a kite lt whfn facing k mack. Its likely a recipe for disaster. If that is too difficult for you to comprehend you probably shouldnt be in a message board. So weed becomes legal, players will play high. What is stopping players from getting drunk before games since alcohol is legal? I had to read it multiple times to interpret it. The argument that making it legal means people will just be high all the time is a terrible argument. Nothing is stopping them from getting drunk. Hopefully if one of them gets a teams franchise qb wrecked their held responsible in court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Nope just pointing out that players have responsibilities and much like any drug itvwill affect their abilities to perform their duties. As such some of the players duties arevto protect the qb, I wouldnt want my 100 mill franchise qb protected by a high as a kite lt whfn facing k mack. Its likely a recipe for disaster. If that is too difficult for you to comprehend you probably shouldnt be in a message board. LOL. I guess since alcohol is legal, we better hope blindside tackle isn't drunk or high on pills when protecting the QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Nope just pointing out that players have responsibilities and much like any drug itvwill affect their abilities to perform their duties. As such some of the players duties arevto protect the qb, I wouldnt want my 100 mill franchise qb protected by a high as a kite lt whfn facing k mack. Its likely a recipe for disaster. If that is too difficult for you to comprehend you probably shouldnt be in a message board. Nothing is stopping them from getting drunk. Hopefully if one of them gets a teams franchise qb wrecked their held responsible in court. F*&%k off. Go back where you came from. You add nothing to this board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Nope just pointing out that players have responsibilities and much like any drug itvwill affect their abilities to perform their duties. As such some of the players duties arevto protect the qb, I wouldnt want my 100 mill franchise qb protected by a high as a kite lt whfn facing k mack. Its likely a recipe for disaster. If that is too difficult for you to comprehend you probably shouldnt be in a message board. Nothing is stopping them from getting drunk. Hopefully if one of them gets a teams franchise qb wrecked their held responsible in court. So nothing is stopping them from getting drunk and players aren't playing drunk, why are you seeing an issue with players playing high? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_with_it Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 (edited) LOL. I guess since alcohol is legal, we better hope blindside tackle isn't drunk or high on pills when protecting the QB. You can laugh if you want to. There are quite a few players that have let MILLIONS walk right past them because of their inability to pass a urine test. I dont want that guy protecting my franchise qb. You may continue to laugh if you still think its funny. F*&%k off. Go back where you came from. You add nothing to this boardYou have a serious problem. If you couldnt understand about 50 words, then you really do need comprehension skill. Its likely you didnt like my position, sidnt have a valid retort, and tried to make a funny. Well that failed for you. Edited May 9, 2017 by Bill_with_it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/presents18969358/tinderization-today-nba Just like in Football and Baseball there was a time when beer was kept in the clubhouse and consumed at half time in Basketball also. Hockey has the most lenient drug policy towards Marijuana and is doing quite well. This belief that players are going to show up baked is over the top. This isn't going to turn into "Fast Times at Ridgemont High", where Marcel and Karlos are out in the van in the parking lot before games smoking big blunts. All this sanctimonious rhetoric is astounding when you maybe stop to consider the behavior of heroes past, namely Kelly and company. How many hangovers did Jim and Bruce play through? Hold up your hands please if you believe Hollywood Henderson or Michael Irvin were the only ones doing blow. The most outrageous on many levels though is the Pirate pitcher who threw a no-hitter while tripping on acid. The 60 Minutes piece is incredible. He was tripping his (fill in the blank) off and tossed a perfect game! Just a little food for thought..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_with_it Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 So nothing is stopping them from getting drunk and players aren't playing drunk, why are you seeing an issue with players playing high?I guess you need to see a franchise qb getting destroyed before you see the issue. Its highly likely owners wont need to see their qbs getting wrecked, to see the issue, and vote against it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 You can laugh if you want to. There are quite a few players that have let MILLIONS walk right past them because of their inability to pass a urine test. I dont want that guy protecting my franchise qb. You may continue to laugh if you still think its funny. Tou have a serious problem. If you couldnt understand about 50 words, then you really do need comprehension skill. Its likely you didnt like my position, sidnt have a valid retort, and tried to make a funny. Well that failed for you. LOL...really? You're the one with the comprehension problems in this. You can't even answer my question. Again...why is it a concern for a player playing high of weed becomes legal when there isn't a concern with players playing drunk because alcohol is legal? Or playing high on pills because that's legal? Can you answer that question or it is too hard to comprehend for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 You have a serious problem. If you couldnt understand about 50 words, then you really do need comprehension skill. Its likely you didnt like my position, sidnt have a valid retort, and tried to make a funny. Well that failed for you. My problem is replying to your posts. That stops now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 I guess you need to see a franchise qb getting destroyed before you see the issue. Its highly likely owners wont need to see their qbs getting wrecked, to see the issue, and vote against it. Would it matter if their QB is wrecked because the tackle was high on pills or drunk and missed his block? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/presents18969358/tinderization-today-nba Just like in Football and Baseball there was a time when beer was kept in the clubhouse and consumed at half time in Basketball also. Hockey has the most lenient drug policy towards Marijuana and is doing quite well. This belief that players are going to show up baked is over the top. This isn't going to turn into "Fast Times at Ridgemont High", where Marcel and Karlos are out in the van in the parking lot before games smoking big blunts. All this sanctimonious rhetoric is astounding when you maybe stop to consider the behavior of heroes past, namely Kelly and company. How many hangovers did Jim and Bruce play through? Hold up your hands please if you believe Hollywood Henderson or Michael Irvin were the only ones doing blow. The most outrageous on many levels though is the Pirate pitcher who threw a no-hitter while tripping on acid. The 60 Minutes piece is incredible. He was tripping his (fill in the blank) off and tossed a perfect game! Just a little food for thought..... I used to kill at Space Invaders back in the day. You can get in the zone. Would it matter if their QB is wrecked because the tackle was high on pills or drunk and missed his block? I misread that for a second. I thought the wrecked QB was Johnny Football. my bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_with_it Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Would it matter if their QB is wrecked because the tackle was high on pills or drunk and missed his block?Can you show me where I condone the abuse of alcohol? I never once brought it up because, a) I feel the same way, b) this thread is about marijuana, c) alcohol is currently legal, d) nflpa isnt gearing up for a alcohol therapuetic reason. I really could careless if its chewing on the bark of a tree. If it willingly unnecessarily puts another teamate in harms way it shouldnt be allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Can you show me where I condone the abuse of alcohol? I never once brought it up because, a) I feel the same way, b) this thread is about marijuana, c) alcohol is currently legal, d) nflpa isnt gearing up for a alcohol therapuetic reason. I really could careless if its chewing on the bark of a tree. If it willingly unnecessarily puts another teamate in harms way it shouldnt be allowed. I think that his point is why should we expect a player to show up stoned but not drunk? The answer is neither is going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 LOL. I guess since alcohol is legal, we better hope blindside tackle isn't drunk or high on pills when protecting the QB. You can take alcohol and painkillers without getting wasted.... probably 99% of use of those substances is without the 100% intent of getting high... Not so for pot, that is 100% requiring you get high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 You can take alcohol and painkillers without getting wasted.... probably 99% of use of those substances is without the 100% intent of getting high... Not so for pot, that is 100% requiring you get high. So 1% of people using alcohol or painkillers are trying to get wasted? That seems low but haven't seen the research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Can you show me where I condone the abuse of alcohol? I never once brought it up because, a) I feel the same way, b) this thread is about marijuana, c) alcohol is currently legal, d) nflpa isnt gearing up for a alcohol therapuetic reason. I really could careless if its chewing on the bark of a tree. If it willingly unnecessarily puts another teamate in harms way it shouldnt be allowed. Dude...I never said you condone alcohol abuse. Never even alluded to it. I a pretty floored this is so difficult for you. You seem to have the stance that players are disciplined enough from getting drunk and high on pills during games but won't be for weed. Which is why you keep bringing up your hypothetical scenario about the QB getting "wrecked" because the tackle is high. So again, if the concern is that if weed is permitted, players will be playing high...why is there not a concern that players will be getting drunk or high on pills? Both of those are allowed in the NFL. Oh so you don't care if it's tree bark if it puts a teammate in harms way...it shouldn't be allowed? So then you feel pills and alcohol shouldn't be allowed. You've got incredible double standards. You can take alcohol and painkillers without getting wasted.... probably 99% of use of those substances is without the 100% intent of getting high... Not so for pot, that is 100% requiring you get high. Vicodin and other pain killers give you a high. Doesn't matter what the intent is, it's still gets you high. It's a highly addictive opiate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 I used to kill at Space Invaders back in the day. You can get in the zone. Yeah buddy, Galaga and Ms. Pacman too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashdude Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 they should allow it but pretending it isn't addictive is crazy. Gordon and Blackmon have lost millions There is a difference between physically addictive and physiologically addictive. Biting your nails is physiologically addictive, herion and all the sweet, sweet opiates you r good doctor gives you are physically addictive. That's why you never hear of a pot head having to go through detox. bone spurs? Isn't that the bass player in that bluesband from the 60's? Don't assume you know my situation. And I don't care to know yours. The bottom line isn't that it is a pain killer, its not. Its symptom relief. Like a lot of things. I have a craving for arbys. Maybe I'm high. You know what else is high? Gas. In my day is fine up for $5. Of course, as a soon to retire 50something year old I just can't be in touch with what these hippies want. You come off as a grade A douche bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockpile233 Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 (edited) If you follow every law...you are a square. Let them smoke. Edited May 9, 2017 by Rockpile233 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_with_it Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Dude...I never said you condone alcohol abuse. Never even alluded to it. I a pretty floored this is so difficult for you. You seem to have the stance that players are disciplined enough from getting drunk and high on pills during games but won't be for weed. Which is why you keep bringing up your hypothetical scenario about the QB getting "wrecked" because the tackle is high. So again, if the concern is that if weed is permitted, players will be playing high...why is there not a concern that players will be getting drunk or high on pills? Both of those are allowed in the NFL. Oh so you don't care if it's tree bark if it puts a teammate in harms way...it shouldn't be allowed? So then you feel pills and alcohol shouldn't be allowed. You've got incredible double standards. Vicodin and other pain killers give you a high. Doesn't matter what the intent is, it's still gets you high. It's a highly addictive opiate. Please tell me how that my stance is players are disciplined enough to refrain from pills and alcohol. I have not and will not condone it. Stop putting words in my mouth and reqd what I posted. You can have that argument with someone else who is actually saying that players are more disciplined from alcohol and pill ise. What i have said and will continue to say, is that in a violent sport where very large men run at speeds upwards of 20 mph with minimal protection there is no need to expose them to unnecessary physical damage in way of self medicated in any form to include marijuana. Further, as such imagine your 100 mil qb getting exposed to this and it being proved that it was through fault of another player using marijuana or any substance for that matter. Please if you want to have a conversation stick to what I have said and to what you want me to say. I havent and will not condone the use of those other substances for uses other than intended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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