John from Riverside Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 Dear Sam, If you have a good year, COME OUT... Don't F%$# people who may be in DIRE need of your talent. -Could come back to haunt you in a big way! Sincerely, -#34fan so you WANT him going to the jets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 They may have the deepest WR group ever. That's not even hyperbole. They may.definitely. Will be hard to project production from a fantasy standpoint.with WRs, TEs and RBs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 ....from the sounds of you folks that know collegiate ball QB's, this may be THE opportune year for Buffalo to be positioned with two 1sts...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 so you WANT him going to the jets Funny you ask... I was just going over the Jets roster, and saw some things that made me suspicious of their "tanking" plans... The have a decent WR corp... TE isn't good, but that could change during TC... Their D looks bad on paper, but COULD overachieve... I wouldn't be surprised if someone like the Chargers, Vikings, or Cardinals ended up with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 Funny you ask... I was just going over the Jets roster, and saw some things that made me suspicious of their "tanking" plans... The have a decent WR corp... TE isn't good, but that could change during TC... Their D looks bad on paper, but COULD overachieve... I wouldn't be surprised if someone like the Chargers, Vikings, or Cardinals ended up with him. ...uh oh....another sweep on the horizon?...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 @diannaESPN USC's Sam Darnold tells @SportsCenter "I don't think any team should tank their season because of me" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 @diannaESPN USC's Sam Darnold tells @SportsCenter "I don't think any team should tank their season because of me" well, there ya have it...read and weep Jests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 With regards to QB's Sam Darnold, Josh Rosen, Luke Falk & Jake Browning. Here are this year's PAC-12 games where they go head-to-head. 9/29 USC @ Washington State 10/28 UCLA @ Washington 11/18 UCLA @ USC 11/25 Washington State @ Washington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 The order is based on the latest Super Bowl LII odds supplied by BookerMaker.eu, so direct your order rage in its direction. 1. Cleveland Browns: Sam Darnold, QB, Southern California Selecting DeShone Kizer in the second round this year shouldn’t stop the Browns from taking a first-round quarterback in 2018. 2. San Francisco 49ers: Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA This is San Francisco’s current quarterback depth chart: Brian Hoyer, Matt Barkley, and C.J. Beathard. They’re in position to get a franchise quarterback in 2018. 3. New York Jets: Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming Quarterbacks haven’t been the first three picks in the draft since 1999, but teams showed this year they’ll be aggressive at the position. The Jets can get the player many consider the next Carson Wentz. 4. Los Angeles Rams: Derwin James, S, Florida State This draft has shown the value of safeties, and James’ talent is off the charts. As a freshman in 201, he had 91 tackles, 9.5 tackles for loss, 4.5 sacks, and five pass breakups. His talent level is extremely high. 5. Chicago Bears: Minkah Fitzpatrick, CB, Alabama Chicago signed Prince Amukamara to just a one-year deal, and Kyle Fuller hasn’t lived up to his first-round draft placement. 6. Buffalo Bills: Christian Wilkins, DT, Clemson Kyle Williams is entering the final year on his contract, and the longtime veteran could need replacing. Wilkins plays on a loaded defensive line but still managed 56 tackles, 13 for loss, and 3.5 sacks last season. 7. Jacksonville Jaguars: Mike McGlinchey, OT, Notre Dame After getting Cam Robinson in the second round this year, the Jaguars could double up and finally get bookends. Maybe Blake Bortles can bounce back and get franchised. 8. Washington: Mason Rudolph, QB, Oklahoma State Kirk Cousins might finally find his way out of Washington, and the team will need a replacement. 9. Cincinnati Bengals: Sam Hubbard, DE, Ohio State The Bengals picked Jordan Willis in the third round, but Hubbard can be a star if he continues developing this season as expected. Added bonus: He’s from Cincinnati. 10. Detroit Lions: Arden Key, DE/OLB, LSU Detroit didn’t address pass rusher early in the 2017 draft and could next year with the speedy Key. 11. Los Angeles Chargers: Lamar Jackson, QB, Louisville Jackson is going to be the biggest wild card of draft prospects this college football season. He’s a work in progress in the pocket, but he could sit a year behind Philip Rivers and learn. 12. Miami Dolphins: Quenton Nelson, G, Notre Dame Miami didn’t take an offensive lineman in the first two days of the draft, so the Dolphins could be after a player like Nelson next year. He’s a powerful, mauling guard who coaches will love. 13. New Orleans Saints: Tyquan Lewis, DE, Ohio State Lewis considered entering the draft this year and could really assert himself as a top-20 pick with a good senior season. 14. Tennessee Titans: Josh Sweat, DE, Florida State Derrick Morgan and Brian Orakpo are both getting up there in age, and Sweat can be a star. If he stays healthy, he might not be around this long in the first round whenever he goes pro. 15. Arizona Cardinals: Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama This might be Larry Fitzgerald’s final season, and the Cardinals could target his replacement in the first round. 16. Baltimore Ravens: Orlando Brown, OT, Oklahoma The mammoth Brown could be the right tackle of the future for Baltimore. Related 2017 NFL Draft live results 17. Minnesota Vikings: Da’Ron Payne, DT, Alabama Hey look, the latest member of the Alabama defensive line factory. Payne started every game for Alabama last season and had 36 tackles, including 3.5 for loss and 1.5 sacks. 18. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Bradley Chubb, DE, North Carolina State At this time next year, we’ll be talking about Chubb the same way we did about Derek Barnett. 19. Philadelphia Eagles: Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State The front-runner to be the draft’s top running back, Barkley gouged several teams last season rushing for nearly 1,500 yards and 18 touchdowns. 20. Indianapolis Colts: Derrius Guice, RB, LSU With Leonard Fournette off to the NFL, Guice is poised for a superstar season that could see him contend for the Heisman Trophy. 21. Carolina Panthers: Porter Gustin, DE, Southern California The Panthers didn’t take a pass rusher until the 77th overall pick, so they could be looking for one early in 2018. 22. New York Giants: Mike Weber, RB, Ohio State Ezekiel Elliott’s replacement at Ohio State could be in for a monster redshirt sophomore season in Columbus. 23. Cleveland Browns (via Texans): Tarvarus McFadden, CB, Florida State The Browns didn’t get a cornerback in the first three rounds of the draft this year and could go into next year’s draft with that position near the top of the team’s needs. 24. Buffalo Bills (via Chiefs): Luke Falk, QB, Washington State Surprise, yet another quarterback. The Bills could be after one in the first round in 2018 and just missed in the top 10 earlier in the mock draft. 25. Denver Broncos: Ronnie Harrison, S, Alabama T.J. Ward is entering the final year of his contract, and the Broncos could look to add youth in the secondary if he leaves. 26. Oakland Raiders: Malik Jefferson, LB, Texas After ignoring linebacker the first two days of the draft, the Raiders would be happy to see Jefferson here. He’ll rate higher, but since he’s not a pass-rushing linebacker, his draft range might be in this area. 27. Atlanta Falcons: Byron Cowart, DT, Auburn The Falcons may have gotten pass rusher Takk McKinley in the first round, but Dontari Poe is on just a one-year deal and Ra’Shede Hageman is in the final year of his contract. After a difficult first two years at Auburn, Cowart is moving to tackle this season and coaches and teammates are saying he’s a greatly improved player. 28. Green Bay Packers: Harold Landry, OLB, Boston College The Packers didn’t target an edge rusher early in the draft, and Landry could be brought in to play the position in 2018. As a junior last season, he led the country with seven forced fumbles to go along with 16.5 sacks. 29. Pittsburgh Steelers: Da’Shawn Hand, DL, Alabama With Jonathan Allen and Dalvin Tomlinson off to the NFL, Hand should see more playing time in 2017 and live up to his blue-chip billing. For Pittsburgh, Stephon Tuitt could be after a big contract soon, so Hand would act as depth or an eventual replacement. 30. Seattle Seahawks: Mitch Hyatt, OT, Clemson Until the Seahawks really address offensive tackle, expect to see them sent to Seattle in mock drafts. 31. Dallas Cowboys: Quin Blanding, S, Virginia The Cowboys got two cornerbacks this year but could still use a safety to go with Byron Jones. Blanding is a tackling machine who enters his senior season with 358 career tackles and six interceptions. 32. New England Patriots: Jordan Whitehead, S, Pittsburgh There’s a reason the Patriots reportedly showed a lot of interest in eventual second-round pick Marcus Maye leading up to the draft. After they missed on him, they could find a safety next draft in Whitehead to eventually replace Patrick Chung. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 The order is based on the latest Super Bowl LII odds supplied by BookerMaker.eu, so direct your order rage in its direction. 1. Cleveland Browns: Sam Darnold, QB, Southern California Selecting DeShone Kizer in the second round this year shouldnt stop the Browns from taking a first-round quarterback in 2018. 2. San Francisco 49ers: Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA This is San Franciscos current quarterback depth chart: Brian Hoyer, Matt Barkley, and C.J. Beathard. Theyre in position to get a franchise quarterback in 2018. 3. New York Jets: Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming Quarterbacks havent been the first three picks in the draft since 1999, but teams showed this year theyll be aggressive at the position. The Jets can get the player many consider the next Carson Wentz. 4. Los Angeles Rams: Derwin James, S, Florida State This draft has shown the value of safeties, and James talent is off the charts. As a freshman in 201, he had 91 tackles, 9.5 tackles for loss, 4.5 sacks, and five pass breakups. His talent level is extremely high. 5. Chicago Bears: Minkah Fitzpatrick, CB, Alabama Chicago signed Prince Amukamara to just a one-year deal, and Kyle Fuller hasnt lived up to his first-round draft placement. 6. Buffalo Bills: Christian Wilkins, DT, Clemson Kyle Williams is entering the final year on his contract, and the longtime veteran could need replacing. Wilkins plays on a loaded defensive line but still managed 56 tackles, 13 for loss, and 3.5 sacks last season. 7. Jacksonville Jaguars: Mike McGlinchey, OT, Notre Dame After getting Cam Robinson in the second round this year, the Jaguars could double up and finally get bookends. Maybe Blake Bortles can bounce back and get franchised. 8. Washington: Mason Rudolph, QB, Oklahoma State Kirk Cousins might finally find his way out of Washington, and the team will need a replacement. 9. Cincinnati Bengals: Sam Hubbard, DE, Ohio State The Bengals picked Jordan Willis in the third round, but Hubbard can be a star if he continues developing this season as expected. Added bonus: Hes from Cincinnati. 10. Detroit Lions: Arden Key, DE/OLB, LSU Detroit didnt address pass rusher early in the 2017 draft and could next year with the speedy Key. 11. Los Angeles Chargers: Lamar Jackson, QB, Louisville Jackson is going to be the biggest wild card of draft prospects this college football season. Hes a work in progress in the pocket, but he could sit a year behind Philip Rivers and learn. 12. Miami Dolphins: Quenton Nelson, G, Notre Dame Miami didnt take an offensive lineman in the first two days of the draft, so the Dolphins could be after a player like Nelson next year. Hes a powerful, mauling guard who coaches will love. 13. New Orleans Saints: Tyquan Lewis, DE, Ohio State Lewis considered entering the draft this year and could really assert himself as a top-20 pick with a good senior season. 14. Tennessee Titans: Josh Sweat, DE, Florida State Derrick Morgan and Brian Orakpo are both getting up there in age, and Sweat can be a star. If he stays healthy, he might not be around this long in the first round whenever he goes pro. 15. Arizona Cardinals: Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama This might be Larry Fitzgeralds final season, and the Cardinals could target his replacement in the first round. 16. Baltimore Ravens: Orlando Brown, OT, Oklahoma The mammoth Brown could be the right tackle of the future for Baltimore. Related 2017 NFL Draft live results 17. Minnesota Vikings: DaRon Payne, DT, Alabama Hey look, the latest member of the Alabama defensive line factory. Payne started every game for Alabama last season and had 36 tackles, including 3.5 for loss and 1.5 sacks. 18. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Bradley Chubb, DE, North Carolina State At this time next year, well be talking about Chubb the same way we did about Derek Barnett. 19. Philadelphia Eagles: Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State The front-runner to be the drafts top running back, Barkley gouged several teams last season rushing for nearly 1,500 yards and 18 touchdowns. 20. Indianapolis Colts: Derrius Guice, RB, LSU With Leonard Fournette off to the NFL, Guice is poised for a superstar season that could see him contend for the Heisman Trophy. 21. Carolina Panthers: Porter Gustin, DE, Southern California The Panthers didnt take a pass rusher until the 77th overall pick, so they could be looking for one early in 2018. 22. New York Giants: Mike Weber, RB, Ohio State Ezekiel Elliotts replacement at Ohio State could be in for a monster redshirt sophomore season in Columbus. 23. Cleveland Browns (via Texans): Tarvarus McFadden, CB, Florida State The Browns didnt get a cornerback in the first three rounds of the draft this year and could go into next years draft with that position near the top of the teams needs. 24. Buffalo Bills (via Chiefs): Luke Falk, QB, Washington State Surprise, yet another quarterback. The Bills could be after one in the first round in 2018 and just missed in the top 10 earlier in the mock draft. 25. Denver Broncos: Ronnie Harrison, S, Alabama T.J. Ward is entering the final year of his contract, and the Broncos could look to add youth in the secondary if he leaves. 26. Oakland Raiders: Malik Jefferson, LB, Texas After ignoring linebacker the first two days of the draft, the Raiders would be happy to see Jefferson here. Hell rate higher, but since hes not a pass-rushing linebacker, his draft range might be in this area. 27. Atlanta Falcons: Byron Cowart, DT, Auburn The Falcons may have gotten pass rusher Takk McKinley in the first round, but Dontari Poe is on just a one-year deal and RaShede Hageman is in the final year of his contract. After a difficult first two years at Auburn, Cowart is moving to tackle this season and coaches and teammates are saying hes a greatly improved player. 28. Green Bay Packers: Harold Landry, OLB, Boston College The Packers didnt target an edge rusher early in the draft, and Landry could be brought in to play the position in 2018. As a junior last season, he led the country with seven forced fumbles to go along with 16.5 sacks. 29. Pittsburgh Steelers: DaShawn Hand, DL, Alabama With Jonathan Allen and Dalvin Tomlinson off to the NFL, Hand should see more playing time in 2017 and live up to his blue-chip billing. For Pittsburgh, Stephon Tuitt could be after a big contract soon, so Hand would act as depth or an eventual replacement. 30. Seattle Seahawks: Mitch Hyatt, OT, Clemson Until the Seahawks really address offensive tackle, expect to see them sent to Seattle in mock drafts. 31. Dallas Cowboys: Quin Blanding, S, Virginia The Cowboys got two cornerbacks this year but could still use a safety to go with Byron Jones. Blanding is a tackling machine who enters his senior season with 358 career tackles and six interceptions. 32. New England Patriots: Jordan Whitehead, S, Pittsburgh Theres a reason the Patriots reportedly showed a lot of interest in eventual second-round pick Marcus Maye leading up to the draft. After they missed on him, they could find a safety next draft in Whitehead to eventually replace Patrick Chung. I developed a bit of a man crush on Falk last colllege season. Getting him would make me happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 I developed a bit of a man crush on Falk last colllege season. Getting him would make me happy. I'd love to see Falk clean up his footwork when under pressure and challenge defenses over the top a bit more, but I like the foundation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 The order is based on the latest Super Bowl LII odds supplied by BookerMaker.eu, so direct your order rage in its direction. 1. Cleveland Browns: Sam Darnold, QB, Southern California Selecting DeShone Kizer in the second round this year shouldn’t stop the Browns from taking a first-round quarterback in 2018. 2. San Francisco 49ers: Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA This is San Francisco’s current quarterback depth chart: Brian Hoyer, Matt Barkley, and C.J. Beathard. They’re in position to get a franchise quarterback in 2018. 3. New York Jets: Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming Quarterbacks haven’t been the first three picks in the draft since 1999, but teams showed this year they’ll be aggressive at the position. The Jets can get the player many consider the next Carson Wentz. 4. Los Angeles Rams: Derwin James, S, Florida State This draft has shown the value of safeties, and James’ talent is off the charts. As a freshman in 201, he had 91 tackles, 9.5 tackles for loss, 4.5 sacks, and five pass breakups. His talent level is extremely high. 5. Chicago Bears: Minkah Fitzpatrick, CB, Alabama Chicago signed Prince Amukamara to just a one-year deal, and Kyle Fuller hasn’t lived up to his first-round draft placement. 6. Buffalo Bills: Christian Wilkins, DT, Clemson Kyle Williams is entering the final year on his contract, and the longtime veteran could need replacing. Wilkins plays on a loaded defensive line but still managed 56 tackles, 13 for loss, and 3.5 sacks last season. 7. Jacksonville Jaguars: Mike McGlinchey, OT, Notre Dame After getting Cam Robinson in the second round this year, the Jaguars could double up and finally get bookends. Maybe Blake Bortles can bounce back and get franchised. 8. Washington: Mason Rudolph, QB, Oklahoma State Kirk Cousins might finally find his way out of Washington, and the team will need a replacement. 9. Cincinnati Bengals: Sam Hubbard, DE, Ohio State The Bengals picked Jordan Willis in the third round, but Hubbard can be a star if he continues developing this season as expected. Added bonus: He’s from Cincinnati. 10. Detroit Lions: Arden Key, DE/OLB, LSU Detroit didn’t address pass rusher early in the 2017 draft and could next year with the speedy Key. 11. Los Angeles Chargers: Lamar Jackson, QB, Louisville Jackson is going to be the biggest wild card of draft prospects this college football season. He’s a work in progress in the pocket, but he could sit a year behind Philip Rivers and learn. 12. Miami Dolphins: Quenton Nelson, G, Notre Dame Miami didn’t take an offensive lineman in the first two days of the draft, so the Dolphins could be after a player like Nelson next year. He’s a powerful, mauling guard who coaches will love. 13. New Orleans Saints: Tyquan Lewis, DE, Ohio State Lewis considered entering the draft this year and could really assert himself as a top-20 pick with a good senior season. 14. Tennessee Titans: Josh Sweat, DE, Florida State Derrick Morgan and Brian Orakpo are both getting up there in age, and Sweat can be a star. If he stays healthy, he might not be around this long in the first round whenever he goes pro. 15. Arizona Cardinals: Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama This might be Larry Fitzgerald’s final season, and the Cardinals could target his replacement in the first round. 16. Baltimore Ravens: Orlando Brown, OT, Oklahoma The mammoth Brown could be the right tackle of the future for Baltimore. Related 2017 NFL Draft live results 17. Minnesota Vikings: Da’Ron Payne, DT, Alabama Hey look, the latest member of the Alabama defensive line factory. Payne started every game for Alabama last season and had 36 tackles, including 3.5 for loss and 1.5 sacks. 18. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Bradley Chubb, DE, North Carolina State At this time next year, we’ll be talking about Chubb the same way we did about Derek Barnett. 19. Philadelphia Eagles: Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State The front-runner to be the draft’s top running back, Barkley gouged several teams last season rushing for nearly 1,500 yards and 18 touchdowns. 20. Indianapolis Colts: Derrius Guice, RB, LSU With Leonard Fournette off to the NFL, Guice is poised for a superstar season that could see him contend for the Heisman Trophy. 21. Carolina Panthers: Porter Gustin, DE, Southern California The Panthers didn’t take a pass rusher until the 77th overall pick, so they could be looking for one early in 2018. 22. New York Giants: Mike Weber, RB, Ohio State Ezekiel Elliott’s replacement at Ohio State could be in for a monster redshirt sophomore season in Columbus. 23. Cleveland Browns (via Texans): Tarvarus McFadden, CB, Florida State The Browns didn’t get a cornerback in the first three rounds of the draft this year and could go into next year’s draft with that position near the top of the team’s needs. 24. Buffalo Bills (via Chiefs): Luke Falk, QB, Washington State Surprise, yet another quarterback. The Bills could be after one in the first round in 2018 and just missed in the top 10 earlier in the mock draft. 25. Denver Broncos: Ronnie Harrison, S, Alabama T.J. Ward is entering the final year of his contract, and the Broncos could look to add youth in the secondary if he leaves. 26. Oakland Raiders: Malik Jefferson, LB, Texas After ignoring linebacker the first two days of the draft, the Raiders would be happy to see Jefferson here. He’ll rate higher, but since he’s not a pass-rushing linebacker, his draft range might be in this area. 27. Atlanta Falcons: Byron Cowart, DT, Auburn The Falcons may have gotten pass rusher Takk McKinley in the first round, but Dontari Poe is on just a one-year deal and Ra’Shede Hageman is in the final year of his contract. After a difficult first two years at Auburn, Cowart is moving to tackle this season and coaches and teammates are saying he’s a greatly improved player. 28. Green Bay Packers: Harold Landry, OLB, Boston College The Packers didn’t target an edge rusher early in the draft, and Landry could be brought in to play the position in 2018. As a junior last season, he led the country with seven forced fumbles to go along with 16.5 sacks. 29. Pittsburgh Steelers: Da’Shawn Hand, DL, Alabama With Jonathan Allen and Dalvin Tomlinson off to the NFL, Hand should see more playing time in 2017 and live up to his blue-chip billing. For Pittsburgh, Stephon Tuitt could be after a big contract soon, so Hand would act as depth or an eventual replacement. 30. Seattle Seahawks: Mitch Hyatt, OT, Clemson Until the Seahawks really address offensive tackle, expect to see them sent to Seattle in mock drafts. 31. Dallas Cowboys: Quin Blanding, S, Virginia The Cowboys got two cornerbacks this year but could still use a safety to go with Byron Jones. Blanding is a tackling machine who enters his senior season with 358 career tackles and six interceptions. 32. New England Patriots: Jordan Whitehead, S, Pittsburgh There’s a reason the Patriots reportedly showed a lot of interest in eventual second-round pick Marcus Maye leading up to the draft. After they missed on him, they could find a safety next draft in Whitehead to eventually replace Patrick Chung. This wrong, KC will get the top pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 FALK THAT! Gonna take alot to sell me on Luke... First I'd have to study Riley Ferguson from Memphis... Even K-State's Jesse Ertz is intriguing... Like I've said before, after Darnold, the dropoff is significant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 I've taken a look at Josh Rosen's 2015 games. Colour me intrigued so far. Quite a few parallels between him and Kizer last year. Better than the stats would suggest, capable of doing everything both mentally and technically but the process speed hampers him (Rosen takes sacks as badly as Mahomes did). They're both stuck under coaches that I think are utterly idiotic. I think Rosen's ceiling is ridiculously high. Like I felt with Kizer, I think he can hit that ceiling as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 I've taken a look at Josh Rosen's 2015 games. Colour me intrigued so far. Quite a few parallels between him and Kizer last year. Better than the stats would suggest, capable of doing everything both mentally and technically but the process speed hampers him (Rosen takes sacks as badly as Mahomes did). They're both stuck under coaches that I think are utterly idiotic. I think Rosen's ceiling is ridiculously high. Like I felt with Kizer, I think he can hit that ceiling as well. Clme on in Blokes, the water is warm... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 I've taken a look at Josh Rosen's 2015 games. Colour me intrigued so far. Quite a few parallels between him and Kizer last year. Better than the stats would suggest, capable of doing everything both mentally and technically but the process speed hampers him (Rosen takes sacks as badly as Mahomes did). They're both stuck under coaches that I think are utterly idiotic. I think Rosen's ceiling is ridiculously high. Like I felt with Kizer, I think he can hit that ceiling as well. I see more upside with Rosen than Kizer...his delivery is more compact and he's a cleaner passer in general IMO. It's the off-field stuff that worries me--I have no idea if he's a football-focused kid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 I see more upside with Rosen than Kizer...his delivery is more compact and he's a cleaner passer in general IMO. It's the off-field stuff that worries me--I have no idea if he's a football-focused kid I'm not sure (and don't think) that he is a football-focused kid at the moment. I think that confidence could actually work in our favor though. He's going to take some bumps early and be humbled. He may be better on the back end for it though. Peyton was a jackass in college and so was Manziel. I think that his on field tools are excellent though. He's "pro ready" from a talent standpoint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 I see more upside with Rosen than Kizer...his delivery is more compact and he's a cleaner passer in general IMO. It's the off-field stuff that worries me--I have no idea if he's a football-focused kid Shouldn't be a problem as long as he buys a place with an indoor hot tub... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 ....why with all of this 2018 QB class optimism and the floated positives out there about the Peterman kid coupled with Dennison's ability to hopefully reshape TT, would you yap about spending $25-$30 mil a year on Cousins?.....obviously, I missed the memo.............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 I see more upside with Rosen than Kizer...his delivery is more compact and he's a cleaner passer in general IMO. It's the off-field stuff that worries me--I have no idea if he's a football-focused kid I'm going to avoid talking in absolutes about him for now. Still got a few games from last year to watch and the early reports on that shoulder sounded career-threatening. I'm still not sure about the off-field stuff. There's been some crap out of UCLA on a few high-profile guys and I'm not convinced it's not coming from Jim Mora. My disdain for him and Brian Kelly knows no bounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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