mannc Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Exactly. How can you not draft a QB when you have desperately needed one for 20 years and look yourself in the mirror? I guess you just pray that they all suck so that you don't look like a jackass. Take a chance and grab one if you ever want to win a championship. Why the panic?? The Bills' QB situation is the best it's been in decades. They have a top 20 starter who has started less than 30 NFL games, and a second year guy with huge upside. There is no urgent need to take a QB in the draft this year, especially in the first two rounds, and especially with no sure fire guy available. Taking someone like Dobbs or Kelly in round 5 makes far more sense for this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Why the panic?? The Bills' QB situation is the best it's been in decades. They have a top 20 starter who has started less than 30 NFL games, and a second year guy with huge upside. There is no urgent need to take a QB in the draft this year, especially in the first two rounds, and especially with no sure fire guy available. Taking someone like Dobbs or Kelly in round 5 makes far more sense for this team. John Murphy, is that you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 I think those 3 will go in the 1st too. Kizer might..... but I think he is dependant on a team trading back into the 1st. One of the worst attributes Whaley has is over-rating the talent he has assembled. Because of his inflated assessment of the roster he has a belief that he is close to breaking the ignominious non-playoff streak. That is a factor in his patchwork approach instead of conceptual approach to putting together a roster. This is not a playoff roster or even close to being one. When the organization has a false belief that it is near their limited goal then it is understandable why it has an aversion to invest in a long term solution at qb when their mind-set is on a short-term goal. The Bills organization has a tactical approach to running an organization compared to the Patriots who are much more strategic in the way they run their organization. The obvious reality is that checker players rarely win when playing chess players especially when the game is chess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Bills are actually in great shape to land a QB. 3 QB's with 1st round grades. None considered top 5 picks because of various reasons, but in my opinion the foremost of which is because none of these guys are 6'4"+. This is not EJ 2.0 if we go with QB at 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Trubisky, Mahomes, and Watson. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000800949/article/2017-nfl-draft-how-many-quarterbacks-will-go-in-the-first-round That's how I have it now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 One of the worst attributes Whaley has is over-rating the talent he has assembled. Because of his inflated assessment of the roster he has a belief that he is close to breaking the ignominious non-playoff streak. That is a factor in his patchwork approach instead of conceptual approach to putting together a roster. This is not a playoff roster or even close to being one. When the organization has a false belief that it is near their limited goal then it is understandable why it has an aversion to invest in a long term solution at qb when their mind-set is on a short-term goal. The Bills organization has a tactical approach to running an organization compared to the Patriots who are much more strategic in the way they run their organization. The obvious reality is that checker players rarely win when playing chess players especially when the game is chess. “If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.” ― Sun Tzu, The Art of War Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBills Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 They have a top 20 starter who has started less than 30 NFL games, and a second year guy with huge upside.HahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaHahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaHahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaHahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha HahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaHahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaHahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaHahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Man, if one of these guys turns out to be good and we dont take 'em im gonna be SOOO PISSED! IF, the biggest two letter word in the dictionary... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Who is Trubiniski - the evil Polish cousin of Mitch Trubisky? Polish Dave you should know Trubiniski is the Buffalo version of Trubisky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 I'll tell you how much -- Not. One. Bit. As soon as the draft is over these guys move on to the next draft, and they're never held accountable for their predictions. It's the primary reason I don't pay much (if any) attention to anything leading up to the draft. I'll research players after the Bills select them. To be honest, I kinda like Mel - he's one on of those "only in America" types of personalities that I find entertaining. And I appreciate that he pretty much rose up on his own. But this is funny: http://awfulannouncing.com/espn/mel-kipers-top-10-nfl-draft-blunders.html . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyToughII Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 And if you miss on QB this year, it means it's likely you don't have a starting WR, CB, LB on the team. I see that as a benefit. That means you have a better chance at a top 5 pick for another QB next year! Let's do this, get our QB and stop being a punching bag. We have done that, we have had two good WR's, CB's, LB's but no playoffs. No franchise QB = No chance. It starts and stops there. Why the panic?? The Bills' QB situation is the best it's been in decades. They have a top 20 starter who has started less than 30 NFL games, and a second year guy with huge upside. There is no urgent need to take a QB in the draft this year, especially in the first two rounds, and especially with no sure fire guy available. Taking someone like Dobbs or Kelly in round 5 makes far more sense for this team. Jones does NOT have a huge upside period. TT is not the answer so no we are not in good shape at QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 (edited) And yet many here will continue to parrot this is a weak qb draft class line. Combine that with folks who think Taylor is a good starting qb . . . too sad for words. Edited April 20, 2017 by Dr. Who Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishDave Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Jones does NOT have a huge upside period. The Bills front office thinks he does or he wouldn't be on the team dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 I wonder how much he worries about his track record. Is his name too big to let facts take home down? Didn't he love Clausen? He loved russell a lot. John elway comparisons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bisonbrigade Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Would rather draft Chad Kelly in the 7th round then waste a 1st round pick on another JP Losman. No Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billz4life820 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 I live in NC ... I don't think Trubisky has enough experience ... he's a Bortles clone to me .... its funny but week before the draft both on NFL network and ESPN ... the talking heads are all jumping on the Mahomes bandwagon ... apparently the arm is unmatched in the draft ... I struggle ... as his teams weren't winning teams ... I'll sit back for kid from USC next year .. if we screw up this year. I'd rather us go in other direction and avoid taking one of these guys at 10. The quality QB's come from the 3rd and 4th rounds of late ... see history of Wilson, Prescott, and Cousins. So look at the QB's from Pitt, Tennessee and have them battle Yates or Jones. I'd like to see Cardale with another summer camp ... I think his arm is good enough for this league. we are not going to be bad enough to draft darnold.........49ers, browns, and jets are all clearly worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 we are not going to be bad enough to draft darnold.........49ers, browns, and jets are all clearly worse Correct. If he's can't miss Bills don't get to draft him. Bills need to pull the trigger on a very good QB prospect, waiting for perfect is a recipe for failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Correct. If he's can't miss Bills don't get to draft him. Bills need to pull the trigger on a very good QB prospect, waiting for perfect is a recipe for failure. I am trying to figure out the whole thing with Darnold anyway the bills could draft number 1 next year (everyone here knows that is NOT going to happen right?) and Darnold could GO BACK TO SCHOOL or....he could have a crappy year....it would not be the first time that a non senior college qb ended up looking great then like crap the following year. but....by all means carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 I am trying to figure out the whole thing with Darnold anyway the bills could draft number 1 next year (everyone here knows that is NOT going to happen right?) and Darnold could GO BACK TO SCHOOL or....he could have a crappy year....it would not be the first time that a non senior college qb ended up looking great then like crap the following year. but....by all means carry on. You read that wrong. I said the Bills won't get him unless he has a bad year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 John from Hemet speaking truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 You read that wrong. I said the Bills won't get him unless he has a bad year. actually I was agreeing with you (waiting to get hit by a flying pig any second) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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