bilzfancy Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 You know what? I think you are right. I've been reading posts like yours constantly since I've come over.. I'll take my 44 years of fandom to another board. See you later, TBD. exactly, in my case, 55 years of fandom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 9, 2017 Author Share Posted March 9, 2017 @corryjoel Texans have $9M in dead money from Brock Osweiler's $12M signing bonus. Browns are responsible for his $16M 2017 base salary guarantee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 2017 NFL Draft First round: (2) Own pick and the Eagles' pick. Second round: (2) Own pick and the Titans' pick. Third round: (1) Own pick. Fourth round: (3) Three *compensatory picks due to free agent losses in 2016. Fifth round: (3) Own pick, the Patriots' pick and a *compensatory pick due to free agent loss in 2016. Sixth round: (1) Own pick. Seventh round: (1) The Colts' pick. 3 2nd round picks in 2018 draft picks 2 4th rounders 2 6 rounders Show me their draft picks from the past several years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 I looked. How does that make perfect sense? Who does it make perfect sense to? See above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bomb Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Hmmmmmm, are people still envious of the browns and their "plan"? Yes, it's a good move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Man Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Yup: a bad QB. And a pick. If you are going to have spend the money anyway, which would you rather have in return: Nothing or a 2nd round pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 (edited) Yep, but I'm sure he'd rather pay and get something out of it, versus paying only to meet a requirement. Either way, they are getting pretty aggressive with their pocket book. $140 million in new contracts already, maybe another $40 if they care to keep Pryor. He did get something out of it - a high pick that'll be cheap and a player who won't be on the books in 2018 but who fills out cap space in 2017. It's an accounting move, and it's smart. Edited March 9, 2017 by dave mcbride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Look up to the post which listed all the Browns picks in 17', 18'. Then go look at some of their recent additions on OLine and front 7 on D. IF they draft well they will be loaded with young talent and still have plenty of cap room with which they can bolster the roster through FA. It's clear they have a plan in place. What's the plan in Buffalo? Unfortunately plans in the NFL tend to not work out very well: drafts are completely unpredictable, injuries can be often career ending/changing and FA signings are gone by the time ur draft picks develop. They have a plan, thats fine. So do we: Maintain our top 10 offense, improve our defense (which may likely have been done just by firing Rex and hiring MCD), and get more disciplined (again MCD can do that) But you cant see that bc youre too worried about how awesome the Browns are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 No, they cut him if they want and pocket the 2nd round pick. People don't seem to realize how far below the cap they are. We're talking in the neighborhood of $100 million. They have to meet a 4-year rolling average requirement of spending 89 percent to the cap, and if they cut Osweiler he counts only for this season - they don't have deal with the signing bonus. That's on Houston's books, not theirs. If they don't meet the 89 percent requirement, they have to pay the league the difference. I realize they have $100M in cap room. But I agree with Casserly that spending $16M to get a 2nd rounder next year is stupid. Might as well target good FA's. And they won't cut him, since they're paying him $16M. Next year, probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Show me their draft picks from the past several years. Different regime. Apples and oranges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Show me their draft picks from the past several years. Their new management just took over last year. I only saw that they got some nice players in the first couple rounds. Coleman and Ogbah look very solid. Don't know much about their other 12 picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Yes. Cleveland is so smart. Maybe they can sell tickets to the draft instead of actual games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 And a pick. If you are going to have spend the money anyway, which would you rather have in return: Nothing or a 2nd round pick? I'd rather have a guy actually worth $16M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 This is a great move. Take your Bills blinders off folks. I know the Browns are our rival for suck King, but common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Different regime. Apples and oranges. Maybe. Could be apples to apples or oranges to oranges. Time will tell, but thinking they've suddenly learned to draft isn't exactly sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 (edited) I realize they have $100M in cap room. But I agree with Casserly that spending $16M to get a 2nd rounder next year is stupid. Might as well target good FA's. And they won't cut him, since they're paying him $16M. Next year, probably. They might cut him. It really doesn't matter. They didn't trade for the player, after all; they traded for him as cap space filler. Bear in mind that they're going to have a flood of new players drafted in the early rounds. Stiffs like Osweiler might not make it, and that'll likely be regarded as fine by DePodesta. Edited March 9, 2017 by dave mcbride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 9, 2017 Author Share Posted March 9, 2017 Their new management just took over last year. I only saw that they got some nice players in the first couple rounds. Coleman and Ogbah look very solid. Don't know much about their other 12 picks. 5 of the 12 were WR. Some cut, can't recall. It wasn't a good draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElectricCompany Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 He did get something out of it - a high pick that'll be cheap and a player who won't be on the books in 2018 but who fills out cap space in 2017. It's an accounting move, and it's smart. Yes, I agree. Good deal overall. I'd hang on to Brock. See how he looks in camp and take it from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Maybe. Could be apples to apples or oranges to oranges. Time will tell, but thinking they've suddenly learned to draft isn't exactly sound. In case you're unaware, I'm a big, big fan of DePodesta. Not everything he's done has been a success, but he's a true innovator and really freaking smart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 (edited) Clevland smart. Flipped a 4th for a 2nd. Can use him to get to floor and cut him immediately. O god CLE did something smart Edited March 9, 2017 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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