Brady's Legacy

[PatsFanNH]

This was not a court of law...it was an NFL investigation. Unless Brady agreed to it, those texts WERE NEVER seen, cloud or no cloud. And yes, all Wells wanted was for someone to look through the phone with Brady present and show texts to/from the two other knuckleheads ...and guess what..they were never seen.

I say those texts were seen based off the evidence that the text between Bray and a friend was leaked to the media by someone in the NFL. (No real proof otherwise but very compelling evidence IMO) One thing I never understood is they had the two knuckleheads phones (they were Patriot issued and Brady's was not) sonwouldnt any texts between Brady and them be on it and if you thought maybe they deleted them (which seeing as how they had YEAR old texts I doubt that.) youbhad access to the cloud check their old texts. There was no clear need for them to have his phone. IMO it was a smoke screen for the public to say "look he didn't give us his phone he is hiding something" when we all know texts go both ways and they would have had those texts already from said knuckleheads. ( I have a hard time believing Goodell and the NFL after the lie on the appeal findings and letting the false PSI numbers that were leaked by the NFL to stand for 7 months.)

 

That said I do believe the two idiots did something. I think they did it after Brady layer into them when he got a 16 psi ball against the Jets. They were peons and this was Tom freakin Brady so they knew if it happened again their ass was on the line. So is it really a stretch believe they did it just to protect their jobs w the Patriots?

[Mr. WEO]

How anybody could say Brady is the greatest quarterback every is beyond me. He is the greatest quarterback in the modern era of football where you can't touch the quarterback without drawing a flag, where you can't touch a receiver beyond 5 yards without drawing a flag. Place Brady back in the day of Elway, Kelly, Marino, Montana, etc. and lets see what kind of numbers he puts up.

 

How many times were Brady and Ryan "touched" last night? How many flags were thrown as a result.

 

This continues to be the dumbest comment people make about the good old days vs today.

[PromoTheRobot]

 

Brady's legacy- the qb of a team that was caught in spygate, deflategate, Someone who destroyed his phone as evidence during one of these scandals, a guy who voted for trump, and a guy who won 5 Super Bowls because his coach, bb, and the mastermind, Ernie Adams, cheated like hell

You still have to make the plays. Edited February 6, 2017 by PromoTheRobot

[Maury Ballstein]

I say those texts were seen based off the evidence that the text between Bray and a friend was leaked to the media by someone in the NFL. (No real proof otherwise but very compelling evidence IMO) One thing I never understood is they had the two knuckleheads phones (they were Patriot issued and Brady's was not) sonwouldnt any texts between Brady and them be on it and if you thought maybe they deleted them (which seeing as how they had YEAR old texts I doubt that.) youbhad access to the cloud check their old texts. There was no clear need for them to have his phone. IMO it was a smoke screen for the public to say "look he didn't give us his phone he is hiding something" when we all know texts go both ways and they would have had those texts already from said knuckleheads. ( I have a hard time believing Goodell and the NFL after the lie on the appeal findings and letting the false PSI numbers that were leaked by the NFL to stand for 7 months.)

That said I do believe the two idiots did something. I think they did it after Brady layer into them when he got a 16 psi ball against the Jets. They were peons and this was Tom freakin Brady so they knew if it happened again their ass was on the line. So is it really a stretch believe they did it just to protect their jobs w the Patriots?

Just stop dude. They are guilty. It's been documented and they have paid the fines.

[racecitybills]

Diehard Bills fan. Sports hate the Patriots forever.

 

Brady and Belichick - Best Ever-

 

Kraft and the rest of the mass holes - worst ever

Edited February 6, 2017 by racecitybills

[Maury Ballstein]

Brady's legacy- the qb of a team that was caught in spygate, deflategate, Someone who destroyed his phone as evidence during one of these scandals, a guy who voted for trump, and a guy who won 5 Super Bowls because his coach, bb, and the mastermind, Ernie Adams, cheated like hell

Go to PPP with your Trump shaming.

 

Sad stuff.

[PatsFanNH]

Just stop dude. They are guilty. It's been documented and they have paid the fines.

Didn't read it did ya. I even said the two knuckleheads probably did something. (You can't even prove that since well they have no proof of PSI being below normal from said game.) I was saying the one thing bother apats fans is how BRADY was rail roaded. (I nean we all saw the dumb ass 2 psi crap for months. Meanwhile that was a LIE. We hear about Not having Brady phone or texts, but yet the NFL leaks said text about Manning that Brady sent a friend. If they had that text how did they not have access to his phone? The Goodell Lie in his Appeal findings. ( a fact easy to look up) anyone who thinks they (I mean BRADY) were guilty and that's that never bothered to look deeper than the headlines. The courts found that because of the CBA THE COMMISH COULD SUSPEND YOU FOR EATING THE WRONG PEANUTBUTTER. Nothing more..)

[OhDozeBills]

GOAT cheater paired with greatest coaches (Bill and Ernie) put him in the best possible situation/system any QB has ever been in. If he was on any other team he'd be at a Phillip Rivers level, good but not great.

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

Didn't read it did ya. I even said the two knuckleheads probably did something. (You can't even prove that since well they have no proof of PSI being below normal from said game.) I was saying the one thing bother apats fans is how BRADY was rail roaded. (I nean we all saw the dumb ass 2 psi crap for months. Meanwhile that was a LIE. We hear about Not having Brady phone or texts, but yet the NFL leaks said text about Manning that Brady sent a friend. If they had that text how did they not have access to his phone? The Goodell Lie in his Appeal findings. ( a fact easy to look up) anyone who thinks they (I mean BRADY) were guilty and that's that never bothered to look deeper than the headlines. The courts found that because of the CBA THE COMMISH COULD SUSPEND YOU FOR EATING THE WRONG PEANUTBUTTER. Nothing more..)

 

I think the conclusion i came to was that those guys did deflate the balls. And I just think there's no way people are messing with Tom Brady's football's without his say-so.

 

Probably a dumb reason to assume guilt, but that's just my thought process.

[PatsFanNH]

 

I think the conclusion i came to was that those guys did deflate the balls. And I just think there's no way people are messing with Tom Brady's football's without his say-so.

 

Probably a dumb reason to assume guilt, but that's just my thought process.

I get that! I think they were messing with the balls because he would fire them if he got a 16 psi ball again. So in a way was with his approval as he wants the balls X PSI. Mind you, even at "more probable than not" it is not a 4 game suspension..

[PromoTheRobot]

 

I think the conclusion i came to was that those guys did deflate the balls. And I just think there's no way people are messing with Tom Brady's football's without his say-so.

 

Probably a dumb reason to assume guilt, but that's just my thought process.

You don't smash a phone over deflated footballs. There was more going on that he was covering up. That said, as juiced as I believe Brady is, juicing doesn't make you more accurate or cool under pressure.

[John from Riverside]

Didn't read it did ya. I even said the two knuckleheads probably did something. (You can't even prove that since well they have no proof of PSI being below normal from said game.) I was saying the one thing bother apats fans is how BRADY was rail roaded. (I nean we all saw the dumb ass 2 psi crap for months. Meanwhile that was a LIE. We hear about Not having Brady phone or texts, but yet the NFL leaks said text about Manning that Brady sent a friend. If they had that text how did they not have access to his phone? The Goodell Lie in his Appeal findings. ( a fact easy to look up) anyone who thinks they (I mean BRADY) were guilty and that's that never bothered to look deeper than the headlines. The courts found that because of the CBA THE COMMISH COULD SUSPEND YOU FOR EATING THE WRONG PEANUTBUTTER. Nothing more..)

if i had greatest qb of all time on my team i would not wanting cheating tarnishing that lrgacy either

[PatsFanNH]

You don't smash a phone over deflated footballs. There was more going on that he was covering up. That said, as juiced as I believe Brady is, juicing doesn't make you more accurate or cool under pressure.

Hmm that's possible! I am not going to deny that. (I think most players are juiced.)

 

Serious question, has the NFL ever run a good investigation? Even bountygate seemed poorly done.

[GunnerBill]

You don't smash a phone over deflated footballs. There was more going on that he was covering up. That said, as juiced as I believe Brady is, juicing doesn't make you more accurate or cool under pressure.

Manning was juiced up to the eyeballs by the end and couldn't fling the thing more than 5 yards.

[BillsFan130]

You don't smash a phone over deflated footballs. There was more going on that he was covering up. That said, as juiced as I believe Brady is, juicing doesn't make you more accurate or cool under pressure.

You think brady is juiced? I don't know, he isn't jacked at all and he is known to take ridiculous care of his body. He also has the best work ethic in the league. I wouldn't be shocked if he was juiced up, but I would be a bit surprised

[White Linen]

Brady's legacy- the qb of a team that was caught in spygate, deflategate, Someone who destroyed his phone as evidence during one of these scandals, a guy who voted for trump, and a guy who won 5 Super Bowls because his coach, bb, and the mastermind, Ernie Adams, cheated like hell

 

Get out of here with your Trump bashing. I'm sick of people like you just arbitrarily insulting anyone that voted for him. You have deep issues of intolerance.

[TheFunPolice]

Brady is unique as a football player but there are a lot of guys who are 40 and in incredible shape.

 

The difference is most football players are damn near crippled by then if they are still trying to play, or they got soft and lost their edge to train, eat right, etc. by then.

 

It takes a type of commitment to exercise, nutrition, rest, etc. that almost nobody can keep up that long. Kudos to him.

 

Now let's go beat them at their best next season!

[DriveFor1Outta5]

Brady is unique as a football player but there are a lot of guys who are 40 and in incredible shape.

 

The difference is most football players are damn near crippled by then if they are still trying to play, or they got soft and lost their edge to train, eat right, etc. by then.

 

It takes a type of commitment to exercise, nutrition, rest, etc. that almost nobody can keep up that long. Kudos to him.

 

Now let's go beat them at their best next season!

The myth of his "diet" keeping him from obtaining injuries at an advanced football age is one of the biggest crocks of pseudo science I've ever heard. A great diet can help with overall health and staying youthful, but it's not going to always prevent injury from high impact collisions. Brady gets rid of the ball so fast, and refs protect him like a baby. That's the secret, at least all of it that we know. Edited February 6, 2017 by DriveFor1Outta5

[Mr. WEO]

The myth of his "diet" keeping him from obtaining injuries at an advanced football age is one of the biggest crocks of pseudo science I've ever heard. A great diet can help with overall health and staying youthful, but it's not going to always prevent injury from high impact collisions. Brady gets rid of the ball so fast, and refs protect him like a baby. That's the secret, at least all of it that we know.

 

 

They let the baby get spanked last night...

[DriveFor1Outta5]

 

I don't get it either. There's enough Pats* ball washing on the board now to make any closet fan happy. He's gotta come here and dispute ** legacy? Today? Really?? Yeeesh..

I know, this board is quite sickening right now. I can't dispute the Pats results either. I'm just personally not in any mood to write about how amazing the Pats franchise is. Apparently not everyone share my sentiment.

 

 

They let the baby get spanked last night...

The refs always do in the Super Bowl. Remember the Giants games? It's just the other 18 games he plays you're not allowed to breathe on him. Do you remember some of the insane roughing the passer penalties we've been charged with against Brady over the years?