jeffismagic Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 I'll answer from my perspective. I think particularly with a QB who is still developing you have to get them in rhythm. With the Jags particularly he struggled to do this with a combination of too much run, run, pass on early series and too many low percentage pass plays (normally linked to it being 3rd and 7 or longer). Run Run Pass. Sounds like the Nate Hackett/Doug Marrone offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 I wonder to what extent that McDermott said he and McCoy were joined at the hip in the interviewing process. For his sake, I hope he did not oversell himself. I am going to wait and see how this all pans out, but there is not a lot to be enthusiastic about at the moment. With any luck, we just hired the next Bill Belichick, but who knows at this point. he likely just listed him as his top OC target. McCoy's offenses in Denver weren't statistically great before he got to Rivers; he moreso had a reputation for being able to tailor his scheme to his QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 There are 5 other OC openings right now ... and very little interviewing going on (other than Chip) Rams Jags Jets Browns Texans Wow. The Bills are in solid company with that list of schit shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Wow. The Bills are in solid company with that list of schit shows. i forgot to add Niners (but they also have no HC or GM to do the interviews) So 7 OC openings total. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Vic owes the Bills an apology for claiming the head coaching search was a sham. I don't think he necessarily owes them an apology. But I do think it's further evidence that Carruci is completely full of crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 i forgot to add Niners (but they also have no HC or GM to do the interviews) So 7 OC openings total. I think they will be ok with Kyle Shanahan calling the plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 (edited) At this point I wonder if Steve Fairchild or Turk Schonert could be lured back to Buffalo. They do have experience working here already, which is a big plus. Greg Olson isn't the only retread out there looking for a NFL job. Edited January 17, 2017 by BillsVet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 I would rather go with some possible up and coming OC, someone who is a QB coach or TE coach elsewhere that has been working his way up and shown promise, than a retread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 If we hire Greg Olson for OC my facade of detached indifference to this offseason is going to come crashing down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Olsen is terrible. He's pretty consistent at being terrible. Hire someone with a proven, successful track record or hire somebody with some promise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-coaching-carousel-here-are-the-top-13-candidates-for-coordinator-jobs/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 I would rather go with some possible up and coming OC, someone who is a QB coach or TE coach elsewhere that has been working his way up and shown promise, than a retread. Matt LaFleur should get an interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Matt LaFleur should get an interview. id love him, except he will almost certainly either A) go with kyle shannahan to the 49ers as his OC or be promoted in Atlanta as OC...either way, not Buffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 That's not even remotely the case. Got it, well that's settled then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 (edited) Got it, well that's settled then Exactly the point. You have no idea what the playcalls are, what the QB's freedom to change them is, how many different calls the QB can make at the line, etc, etc, etc. "Playcalling" is probably the dumbest things fans complain about. We know this because it's a complaint that's nearly gone extinct now that we have access all-22 analyses, without which we can't even begin to guess at what the objective of any given play was. But even the most diligent all-22 analysts freely admit that their ability to understand things is severely limited...by not knowing the playcall. So, again. Edited January 17, 2017 by The Big Cat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 i know my favorite Ken Dorsey moment! Thanks to Tim Anderson! was that the Ohio St. championship back in 2000? Nearly a decade ago? Is that why Green Bay won't let him go, so he won't go back to sucking? yeah coaches can never get better, especially young ones doing something for the first time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 If childress and nagy are blocked who are the other potential candidates? I feel that McD was banking on McCoy and now that ship has sailed and we're down to the leftovers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Joe Lombardi could be another option. Current Saints QB coach. He got a bad rap in Detroit but when looking at it in hindsight he wasn't to blame for their offensive issues. Took an offense that was ranked #19 before he arrived to #13 within two years. This year Lions offense finished 15th. We could do worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 I wonder to what extent that McDermott said he and McCoy were joined at the hip in the interviewing process. For his sake, I hope he did not oversell himself. I am going to wait and see how this all pans out, but there is not a lot to be enthusiastic about at the moment. With any luck, we just hired the next Bill Belichick, but who knows at this point. I can't remember the interview, so I would appreciate it if someone could help me out with a link, but I do recall him being asked a question about his staff. His answer was something to the effect that he has a notebook that he kept updating with people he thought would be good fits at different staff positions. I would hope that his list for OC is slightly more extensive than just McCoy, but you have to wonder just how much wind it took out of his sails when McCoy went to Denver. If he doesn't have GOOD second, third and fourth options in that little notebook it should be a cause for concern. Exactly the point. You have no idea what the playcalls are, what the QB's freedom to change them is, how many different calls the QB can make at the line, etc, etc, etc. "Playcalling" is probably the dumbest things fans complain about. We know this because it's a complaint that's nearly gone extinct now that we have access all-22 analyses, without which we can't even begin to guess at what the objective of any given play was. But even the most diligent all-22 analysts freely admit that their ability to understand things is severely limited...by not knowing the playcall. So, again. Interesting. So the same "predictable" complaint about him that has plagued him over and over in various coordinator jobs he's had is really all the QB's faults? Must be nice to always have an excuse lined up. Sounds like he wasn't privy to what decisions were being made on plays he called. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 I can't remember the interview, so I would appreciate it if someone could help me out with a link, but I do recall him being asked a question about his staff. His answer was something to the effect that he has a notebook that he kept updating with people he thought would be good fits at different staff positions. I would hope that his list for OC is slightly more extensive than just McCoy, but you have to wonder just how much wind it took out of his sails when McCoy went to Denver. If he doesn't have GOOD second, third and fourth options in that little notebook it should be a cause for concern. Interesting. So the same "predictable" complaint about him that has plagued him over and over in various coordinator jobs he's had is really all the QB's faults? Must be nice to always have an excuse lined up. Sounds like he wasn't privy to what decisions were being made on plays he called. ' Boy, our longitudinal understanding of another team's OC sure did crystallize quickly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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