White Linen Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 I have no idea if Toub can be a head coach and I'd have my concerns with a 15 year special teams coach that never even became a coordinator. However after finding this article and learning a little bit about how he spent time wisely by participating in other areas of the team - I could see why he could. The #1 quality of every great head coach is leadership. http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/why-dave-toub-deserves-a-head-coaching-job/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 The question always remains, who would come to Buffalo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob16151 Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 What did he do? Charged with aggravated burglary,and a DUI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 What did he do? Broke into a woman's house through the window, and jumped into bed with her. The police were called, and he was still in the bed. Yes, I understand there is potentially more to the story. We have no clue if there are any other circumstances surrounding this incident. There might be more than meets the eye. However, this is also the kind of thing that could get dragged up again. Next thing you know you are forced to fire the guy. If ugly details ever do surface it could become too much of scandal for my liking. As I said, there might be more to it. At the same time plenty of guys are doing prison time for similar offenses. Cooter happened to be a former QB at Tennessee so magically the records got wiped out. It's just something would definitely scare me away from hiring him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 Jim bob mother!@#$ing cooter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridge Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 Someone has a good agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 Someone has a good agent. Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NyQuil Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 I just hope they don't go with a failure retread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USABuffaloFan Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 (edited) Interesting idea. Most HCs are either the de facto OC or the de facto DC. A football guy like Toub with reputedly good leadership skills could hold his OC and DC accountable for their results. A typical HC isn't usually good at holding himself accountable in his coordinator role. Marv Levy was Special Teams! Good post! Last time a Special Team guy lead Bills we were in 4 straight Super Bowls. Guess what Marv spent time as HC in Kansas. Bring in Haslett as DC and Reich OC and you might have something. Reed WR, Thurman Thomas RB's, Smerlas Defense line. At least us old guys can reminisce. I have no idea if Toub can be a head coach and I'd have my concerns with a 15 year special teams coach that never even became a coordinator. However after finding this article and learning a little bit about how he spent time wisely by participating in other areas of the team - I could see why he could. The #1 quality of every great head coach is leadership. http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/why-dave-toub-deserves-a-head-coaching-job/ Ah, Special Teams is a Coordinator, it is 1/3 of a NFL Team Edited December 24, 2016 by USABuffaloFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob16151 Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 I'm aboard the Toub train Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 Broke into a woman's house through the window, and jumped into bed with her. The police were called, and he was still in the bed. Yes, I understand there is potentially more to the story. We have no clue if there are any other circumstances surrounding this incident. There might be more than meets the eye. However, this is also the kind of thing that could get dragged up again. Next thing you know you are forced to fire the guy. If ugly details ever do surface it could become too much of scandal for my liking. As I said, there might be more to it. At the same time plenty of guys are doing prison time for similar offenses. Who hasn't done that?!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 Who hasn't done that?!! Kiko, is that you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 I get skeptical when i see these fluff pieces on who represents to coach and the reporter Specially this time of year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 Kiko, is that you? Ha. Good one. I think he just slept on the couch of his neighbor's and didn't crawl in bed with her. Ha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 (edited) Rubes - interesting article. Josh McDaniel is intriguing. Lots of HC over history are better their second time around. In retrospect, he was probably not ready at the time, but he's now been under one of the best coaches in history. I know Crennel didn't succeed, but is a good coordinator. I have no opinion on Toub, as I just don't know his body of work. I wouldn't summarily dismiss ST coaches. As a previous poster mentioned, John Harbaugh is a very good HC, and was ST. I'll pass on McDaniel or any other Bellichick assistant...they don't pan out outside of New England... Marv Levy was Special Teams! Good post! Last time a Special Team guy lead Bills we were in 4 straight Super Bowls. Guess what Marv spent time as HC in Kansas. Bring in Haslett as DC and Reich OC and you might have something. Reed WR, Thurman Thomas RB's, Smerlas Defense line. At least us old guys can reminisce. Ah, Special Teams is a Coordinator, it is 1/3 of a NFL Team Haslett has been terrible as a DC...why would you want another retread? No thanks, I'll take a young up and coming smart defensive coach who is in tune with how the game is played today Edited December 25, 2016 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 Broke into a woman's house through the window, and jumped into bed with her. The police were called, and he was still in the bed. Yes, I understand there is potentially more to the story. We have no clue if there are any other circumstances surrounding this incident. There might be more than meets the eye. However, this is also the kind of thing that could get dragged up again. Next thing you know you are forced to fire the guy. If ugly details ever do surface it could become too much of scandal for my liking. As I said, there might be more to it. At the same time plenty of guys are doing prison time for similar offenses. Cooter happened to be a former QB at Tennessee so magically the records got wiped out. It's just something would definitely scare me away from hiring him. probably drunk, no one just stays in the bed, seems like a long time ago. I'm not advocating for him as I liked other guys on the list but just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voodoo poonani Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Link is a good read given the situation today, deserves a bump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 I just hope they don't go with a failure retread. Norv Turner?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob16151 Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Norv Turner?! Kevin Gilbride? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12Kachy Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Well those coaches will have to want to come to Buffalo. It's a hard sell knowing they only have two years to get to the playoffs or get fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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