RyanC883 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 We aren't opening many holes either. yeah, I would say this is the major problem. People can get on Shady all they want, but when he has something to run through he hits it. His 24 yard run last night was great. And I believe another 30+ RB had a great week last week, oh, D. Williams for the Steelers. Then again, the Steelers have a great O-line and QB. We have neither. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenboy81 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Really hes got 15 carries each game.. The o-line is doing their job.. Shady looks fast and needs more touches.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Greg Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Shady has been one of the few bright spots in the first two weeks. He's done great with the carries he's been given (few), he's made some great cuts/moves to get extra yards, and he's turned a few busted plays into positive yardage. You're mad because he gets met behind the line by defenders and gets tackled? Show me the holes he's missed please. He's done everything he can in this crap offense so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 I don't understand why personnel is linked to scheme. Buffalo drafted Spiller, yet Nix wanted a huge OL and actually bragged about the latter. Now, a new GM trades for McCoy, yet their OL seems more suited for the power running game. It hurt last night not having a short yardage option. This is only one example of not fitting personnel to scheme. in context of hearing that they got the call and all got excited and pulled the trigger fast --- im guessing that deep thought might not have gone into the move. simply "that guy is a playmaker, we need playmakers" instead of "who is he, how does he fit our system, and how will we adjust our plans if we pull the trigger" i like shady, and i think he will have some success with us, but i think with a boom or bust passing game, its rough also having a boom or bust runner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsoldier54 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Come on promo, he's suppose to make them himself. Jeez. This. McCoy is one of the most talented running backs in the league. The fact is, our O-Line sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Shady has been one of the few bright spots in the first two weeks. He's done great with the carries he's been given (few), he's made some great cuts/moves to get extra yards, and he's turned a few busted plays into positive yardage. You're mad because he gets met behind the line by defenders and gets tackled? Show me the holes he's missed please. He's done everything he can in this crap offense so far. ill say my commentary isnt that shady sucks, just that we arent maximizing synergy between the player and scheme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Christ, he's the only bright spot in my book. He bounces it outside because our OL is a disaster. The offense is beyond boring, we make no attempt to spread the field and create any sort of mismatch. The guy has been the best player on offense period and has taken a beating doing it. How does Antonio Brown, Julio, Beckam and the list goes on and on get open or find ways too? Last year the rookie RG Miller was given a pass for getting owned on various occasions because he was a rookie learning the job. What's OBD's excuse this year? A sophomore slump? At times he looks lost. As for right tackle (and moving Glenn there) well i seriously doubt anyone that brings that up too the coaches would be laughed out of the room. This team since the day Whaley took pver has had o-line (and qb) problems. The left side is very Good though. Big thanks to cogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 (edited) Shady has been one of the few bright spots in the first two weeks. He's done great with the carries he's been given (few), he's made some great cuts/moves to get extra yards, and he's turned a few busted plays into positive yardage. You're mad because he gets met behind the line by defenders and gets tackled? Show me the holes he's missed please. He's done everything he can in this crap offense so far. How much production can be expected with the Bills running 48 and 50 plays respectively in the 1st two games? They are simply not on the field enough to expect any serious production. Matt Forte had 30 carries just last night because of their high rate of converting 3rd downs while the Bills have struggled mightily to keep drives going. Edited September 16, 2016 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Greg Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 ill say my commentary isnt that shady sucks, just that we arent maximizing synergy between the player and scheme Wholeheartedly agree. We have not committed to the run at all. Roman's play calling has been predictable, as well. How much production can be expected with the Bills running 48 and 50 plays respectively in the 1st two games? They are simply not on the field enough to expect any serious production. Matt Forte had 30 carries just last night because of their high rate of converting 3rd downs while the Bills have struggled mightily to keep drives going. Truth. Good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 How much production can be expected with the Bills running 48 and 50 plays respectively in the 1st two games? They are simply not on the field enough to expect any serious production. Matt Forte had 30 carries just last night because of their high rate of converting 3rd downs while the Bills have struggled mightily to keep drives going. But Shady doesn't really help with keeping drives going, so it's not like he's purely a victim of a bad offense rather than a participant in a poorly-conceived offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 But Shady doesn't really help with keeping drives going, so it's not like he's purely a victim of a bad offense rather than a participant in a poorly-conceived offense. The biggest on-field culprit in this problem is the quarterback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 (edited) How much production can be expected with the Bills running 48 and 50 plays respectively in the 1st two games? They are simply not on the field enough to expect any serious production. Matt Forte had 30 carries just last night because of their high rate of converting 3rd downs while the Bills have struggled mightily to keep drives going. And in those limited plays he's seeing 8 or 9 in the box 90% of the time. Nothing wrong with Shady, his issues are the lack of a competent QB. Edited September 16, 2016 by old school Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOTONE Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Last year the rookie RG Miller was given a pass for getting owned on various occasions because he was a rookie learning the job. What's OBD's excuse this year? A sophomore slump? At times he looks lost. As for right tackle (and moving Glenn there) well i seriously doubt anyone that brings that up too the coaches would be laughed out of the room. This team since the day Whaley took pver has had o-line (and qb) problems. The left side is very Good though. Big thanks to cogs. Disaster was a strong word. But there is no cohesion, Wood is beyond overpaid and over hyped. Miller had a couple of nice blocks last night but is still learning the position. It's just dumbfounding how fast we are going backwards....but McCoy isn't the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madd Charlie Posted September 16, 2016 Author Share Posted September 16, 2016 But Shady doesn't really help with keeping drives going, so it's not like he's purely a victim of a bad offense rather than a participant in a poorly-conceived offense. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 I don't understand why personnel is linked to scheme. Buffalo drafted Spiller, yet Nix wanted a huge OL and actually bragged about the latter. Now, a new GM trades for McCoy, yet their OL seems more suited for the power running game. It hurt last night not having a short yardage option. This is only one example of not fitting personnel to scheme. Different issue. Whaley has no clue how to build a team. But that doesn't excuse McCoy's lack of heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 And in those limited plays he's seeing 8 or 9 in the box 90% on the time. Nothing wrong with Shady, his issues are the lack of a competent QB. There's nothing "wrong" with him. He's still a very good back. But: 1. He's almost certainly lost a step or two. That happens to the best of them by their late 20s after that many carries. 2. He's ill-suited to this Raiders 1971 style offense. That would require the 3 yards and a cloud of dust grinder combined with fast big-play guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 The biggest on-field culprit in this problem is the quarterback. I swear to god if somebody tries to argue anything to the contrary... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 The biggest on-field culprit in this problem is the quarterback. You don't say... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB Bills Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 How can you blame the line? There's only five of them and they have held up well and afforded Taylor time. Defenses are stacking the box with 7 or 8 guys and our idiot coaches keep calling running plays. And our wonderlic wunderkind QB (15/50 for those scoring at home) is either too dumb to audible into a pass play or isn't allowed to. What do you think is going to happen when you run into a brick wall? We support the Bills so we should all be experts on this, metaphorically speaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 (edited) Tyrod looks indecisive and is not making his throws this year. Don't think McCoy is the problem, that said I wish they had more of a power running game up the middle instead of that stretch play left. Everyone knows that play is coming, its their only run set. Edited September 16, 2016 by BaaadThingsMan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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