DrDawkinstein Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 Plain and simple, this is not the news I want to see. While Mingo has under-performed, it has been for the Browns. An organization where everyone under-performs. Putting that type of talent/potential in New England should definitely make us worry a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 Plain and simple, this is not the news I want to see. While Mingo has under-performed, it has been for the Browns. An organization where everyone under-performs. Putting that type of talent/potential in New England should definitely make us worry a bit. He had 38 tackles and 4.5 sacks in his last year at LSU. He didn't put up stats there either. He is just a great physical talent that can't play football. I'm sure, but that is one nasty five year run of purely putrid picks. Yeah, it is not hard to see why they are always terrible. The talent on that team is lacking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 How's Shelton doing? I haven't followed too closely but he looks the part not having a good camp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 He had 38 tackles and 4.5 sacks in his last year at LSU. He didn't put up stats there either. He is just a great physical talent that can't play football. Yeah, it is not hard to see why they are always terrible. The talent on that team is lacking. I think he could possibly be a an effective specialist. That would never work in Cleveland because of the expectations, but it may work now. This sounds like the type of lottery ticket you normally like Kirby? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 The thing is, he may very well be the second best Barkevious to ever play the game. If I ever get another dog, I'm calling him Barkevious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 Start out on ST , then Patrica does his magic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 Plain and simple, this is not the news I want to see. While Mingo has under-performed, it has been for the Browns. An organization where everyone under-performs. Putting that type of talent/potential in New England should definitely make us worry a bit. the team has underperformed as a whole, but they have had some individual success with certain players. Gordon, Haden, Cameron, Thomas, Bitonio, Barnidge, Gipson, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 I think he could possibly be a an effective specialist. That would never work in Cleveland because of the expectations, but it may work now. This sounds like the type of lottery ticket you normally like Kirby? You would think that it fits that for sure but I have seen enough of him to doubt him. We see a ton (and read a ton) about LSU down here. He was the exact same guy then that he is now. I posted it earlier in the thread but here were my thoughts on him at draft time: http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/157540-who-will-be-this-years-draft-sliders-and-busts/?p=2786146 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 If I ever get another dog, I'm calling him Barkevious. love it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 Mingo ate my baby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 Is it spelled Mingo or Maybin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 not having a good camp I did not follow Shelton during the season last year, but he did look very good against the Bills in the preseason. How is Erving doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 He had 38 tackles and 4.5 sacks in his last year at LSU. He didn't put up stats there either. He is just a great physical talent that can't play football. Yeah, it is not hard to see why they are always terrible. The talent on that team is lacking. Chandler Jones had 10 sacks in 3 years at Cuse. http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/chandler-jones-2.html Clowney had 3 sacks his last year in college. JJ Watt had 11.5 sacks in 2 years in college. Clay Matthews had 5.5 sacks in 4 years in college. College stats are basically meaningless in the pros (though we do agree they translate best for Wrs). It's all about scheme and fit. This guy had the ability to go #6 overall. To obtain him for a low round pick seems like a good investment. You can never have enough pass rushers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 25, 2016 Author Share Posted August 25, 2016 (edited) Chandler Jones had 10 sacks in 3 years at Cuse. http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/chandler-jones-2.html Clowney had 3 sacks his last year in college. JJ Watt had 11.5 sacks in 2 years in college. Clay Matthews had 5.5 sacks in 4 years in college. College stats are basically meaningless in the pros (though we do agree they translate best for Wrs). It's all about scheme and fit. This guy had the ability to go #6 overall. To obtain him for a low round pick seems like a good investment. You can never have enough pass rushers. It helps to have football instincts. It appears to me that Mingo sorely lacks them. @MaryKayCabot Compensation from #Patriots for #Browns Mingo is a 2017 5th round pick Edited August 25, 2016 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 It helps to have football instincts. It appears to me that Mingo sorely lacks them. @MaryKayCabot Compensation from #Patriots for #Browns Mingo is a 2017 5th round pick That's fair. I honestly haven't watched him closely enough. I hope he does suck. But I love these type of trades. Our system is better than your system and we will make him a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 I did not follow Shelton during the season last year, but he did look very good against the Bills in the preseason. How is Erving doing?injured his ankle yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 That's fair. I honestly haven't watched him closely enough. I hope he does suck. But I love these type of trades. Our system is better than your system and we will make him a player. Basically Hughes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 (edited) Chandler Jones had 10 sacks in 3 years at Cuse. http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/chandler-jones-2.html Clowney had 3 sacks his last year in college. JJ Watt had 11.5 sacks in 2 years in college. Clay Matthews had 5.5 sacks in 4 years in college. College stats are basically meaningless in the pros (though we do agree they translate best for Wrs). It's all about scheme and fit. This guy had the ability to go #6 overall. To obtain him for a low round pick seems like a good investment. You can never have enough pass rushers. The reason that I bring up LSU is because everyone here said the EXACT same things about him that we are saying 5 years later. He has a great physical traits, but can't shed blocks or play the run, and never produced. If he can put it together he can be a good pass rusher. In 5 years he's the same guy. He shows flashes but just hasn't been able to ever put it together. Edited August 25, 2016 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 The reason that I bring up LSU is because everyone here said the EXACT same things about him that we are saying 5 years later. He has a great physical traits, but can't shed blocks, and never produced. If he can put it together he can be a good pass rusher. In 5 years he's the same guy. He shows flashes but just hasn't been able to ever put it together. Yeah, you might be right. but I would feel better if he stayed in Cle rather than go to NE. Belichick has taken far less physically talented players and made them into good players. Basically Hughes Yeah. I just like consistency. Would people be saying this about Hughes if he got traded to NE instead of us? Because he was less productive than Mingo his first 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 *** April 2017 News Headline *** Just hours before the draft New England Patriots owner Bobert Kraft announced that they have re-signed pass rusher, Barkevious Mingo to a six year 103 Million dollar contract with no gauranteed money and have traded the revived defensive star to the Buffalo Bills for the 2017, 2018 and 2019 first round draft picks. Head Coach Rob Ryan says he is pleased with the deal. You will never make it as a fortune teller; try fiction but avoid any fiction where you might need to include some facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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