26CornerBlitz Posted August 19, 2016 Author Share Posted August 19, 2016 I see both sides of this issue but I have to say that I'm getting a little tired of Godell. I understand that the NFLPA reached an agreement during the last labor deal that gave him a lot of power, so they have to accept the consequences. I honestly don't think that Godell realized how much of his time and effort it was going to take to police the entire league by himself. So as a result, there doesn't seem to be any rational plan or thought behind how he's approaching it. I don't know if this is the right word for it, but it seems like he's "grasping". But while the labor deal is in force, both sides have to adhere to it. Godell ought to take a cue from the other leagues and spread the workload out, so that he's not having to deal with every single one. I think it's reached the point where it's starting to be a serious distraction. He's good for NFL revenues, but by no means a God. Don't believe me? Just ask the NFLPA or Robert Kraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 (edited) The attacks on Graham for breaking a story from his multiple trusted sources are just beyond bizarre. As FireChan has already pointed out, the team has since been forced to admit there is some sort of investigation into an incident that we knew nothing about until TG broke the story--and posters are complaining about this? Do yourselves a favor, if this harms your tender mercies for some reason--limit your Bills news intake to Baghdad Brown over at OBD. He will never hurt you. Edited August 19, 2016 by Mr. WEO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 This could be a huge black eye on the Giants. If what his ex-wife is alleging turns out to be true, there's absolutely no way they can ignore it. Put a family man like Kyle Williams on the kickoff return unit and light the !@#$er up tomorrow. Or it could be she is exaggerating for divorce trying to get money. Let legal system handle it not press and PLEASE separate discussions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 The attacks on Graham for breaking a story from his multiple trusted sources are just beyond bizarre. As FireChan has already pointed out, the team has since been forced to admit there is some sort of investigation into an incident that we knew nothing about until TG broke the story--and posters are complaining about this? Do yourselves a favor, if this harms your tender mercies for some reason--limit your Bills news intake to Baghdad Brown over at OBD. He will never hurt you. It's not about hurting us, it is about releasing a non-story about something that would be announced in the future anyway, but now everyone is in panic mode because graham doesnt actually have any details. So now we are 13 pages into a thread where we know next to nothing more than when we started. I don't blame the guy for reporting it, but this pushing and pulling, and demonizing the bills organization for not commenting on it or commenting on it, and knowing about it or not knowing about it is annoying. It is generating controversy out of something that would've come out of the woodwork when the NFL:completes its investigation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 This is also why I have a zero tolerance for domestic violence. The likelihood that these are one-off events is tiny. Knowing that Manny has already gone through the system because of it sours how I see him. I've resigned myself to the fact that teams don't care until they're made to care. See: Frank Clark in Seattle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 (edited) It's not about hurting us, it is about releasing a non-story about something that would be announced in the future anyway, but now everyone is in panic mode because graham doesnt actually have any details. So now we are 13 pages into a thread where we know next to nothing more than when we started. I don't blame the guy for reporting it, but this pushing and pulling, and demonizing the bills organization for not commenting on it or commenting on it, and knowing about it or not knowing about it is annoying. It is generating controversy out of something that would've come out of the woodwork when the NFL:completes its investigation. A non-story? Yes, a DV investigation about a Bills key contributor is surely a "non-story." Tim Graham should sit on his info so we won't talk about it on TBD? Are you comprehending what you're writing? "We shouldn't have found the reports on Dareus' and Karlos' suspensions, we woulda found out week 1 anyway." Like what. Edited August 19, 2016 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 A non-story? Yes, a DV investigation about a Bills key contributor is surely a "non-story." Tim Graham should sit on his info so we won't talk about it on TBD? Are you comprehending what you're writing? "We shouldn't have found the reports on Dareus' and Karlos' suspensions, we woulda found out week 1 anyway." Like what. Like I said I don't take issue with the original report. I take issue of the controversy that spawns out of it. It's cool we got an inside look at what might be coming, but time and time again the media and some people can't take the information and wait for all of the facts before opening their mouths, speculating, assigning blame, and damning everyone involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 I for one don't have a problem with TG's reporting. I have a problem with him being a child like d bag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 I for one don't have a problem with TG's reporting. I have a problem with him being a child like d bag Ding ding ding...we have a winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Their facts have been more often then not accurate when they open their mouth.... Not sure what the anger is about? What are the chances this info is wrong? Id say slim to none. What facts outside of the original report? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 (edited) Why not wait until they know what he did before reporting it? I have no doubt that there was an incident, but what was it? Nobody can answer that right now, so why even bring it to the forefront YET? Being the first to report something has taken precident on being right, and reporting what actually happened. I still say it happened in the conservatory, with the candlestick. Edited August 19, 2016 by Captain_Quint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Why not wait until they know what he did before reporting it? I have no doubt that there was an incident, but what was it? Nobody can answer that right now, so why even bring it to the forefront YET? Being the first to report something has taken precident on being right, and reporting what actually happened. I still say it happened in the conservatory, with the candlestick. You answered your own question. It was brought to the forefront because now you know there was an incident and it is currently being investigated. Really just a roundabout way of saying "ignorance is bliss." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 You answered your own question. It was brought to the forefront because now you know there was an incident and it is currently being investigated. Really just a roundabout way of saying "ignorance is bliss." Whats the incident? Nobody knows right now, and thats sort of the point to reporting things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 (edited) Whats the incident? Nobody knows right now, and thats sort of the point to reporting things. A domestic violence incident. You wouldn't know there was any incident at all if it wasn't reported. Edited August 19, 2016 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 A domestic violence incident. You wouldn't know there was any incident at all if it wasn't reported. Sounds serious. What happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 I guess talking about a player being investigated for something that never even made the news and for which it's possible he might get a 1-game suspension passes as news these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 It's not about hurting us, it is about releasing a non-story about something that would be announced in the future anyway, but now everyone is in panic mode because graham doesnt actually have any details. So now we are 13 pages into a thread where we know next to nothing more than when we started. I don't blame the guy for reporting it, but this pushing and pulling, and demonizing the bills organization for not commenting on it or commenting on it, and knowing about it or not knowing about it is annoying. It is generating controversy out of something that would've come out of the woodwork when the NFL:completes its investigation. You should just resort to this then for a few weeks: I guess talking about a player being investigated for something that never even made the news and for which it's possible he might get a 1-game suspension passes as news these days. Why would any investigation with a possible suspension, on this team, at this particular time, not be newsworthy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 19, 2016 Author Share Posted August 19, 2016 @TomPelissero NFL has released a statement on Josh Brown's suspension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 @TomPelissero NFL has released a statement on Josh Brown's suspension. I will accept this reasoning. I don't think the masses will after it is forgotten though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 (edited) He's given us everything his source has given him. Not sure what else he can do. Won't stop him from getting crucified on this board, though. Nothing like a witch hunt for the outrage crowd to make snark, then disappear when they're proven wrong. If you say that something happened but don't know when or what it is or if there will be a suspension or not, then that's probably not enough to break the story, IMO. He just throws something out there to be first before he really knows what is happening. Oh, and that is for including the usual bashing of other posters that makes TBD such a pleasure to read. Edited August 20, 2016 by vincec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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