KollegeStudnet Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 An interesting tidbit on NFL SiriusXM yesterday had me ponder. The topic was about coaches and the teams that have the least and the most. A key point was too many hens in the hen house good or bad? In 2015 the Bills led the NFL in coaches in the mid 20's. Followed by Jags, Browns and Raiders. Those teams did not make the playoffs. Combined record of all the above teams was below .500. In 2015 the Pats and Steelers were tied with the least coaches with 15. The Packers came in third, followed by Panthers. Those teams made the playoffs and those teams records combined were above .500. The topic immediately switched to having too many coaches possibly hindering the development of players or does it help the learning curve from college-to-pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Hahaha... you gotta get all your buddies (or relatives) jobs, because someday you may need a job yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 An interesting tidbit on NFL SiriusXM yesterday had me ponder. The topic was about coaches and the teams that have the least and the most. A key point was too many hens in the hen house good or bad? In 2015 the Bills led the NFL in coaches in the mid 20's. Followed by Jags, Browns and Raiders. Those teams did not make the playoffs. Combined record of all the above teams was below .500. In 2015 the Pats and Steelers were tied with the least coaches with 15. The Packers came in third, followed by Panthers. Those teams made the playoffs and those teams records combined were above .500. The topic immediately switched to having too many coaches possibly hindering the development of players or does it help the learning curve from college-to-pro. I see a difference in that list beyond the amount of coaches. Pats*, Steelers, Packers, and Panthers all have established qbs and veteran teams. Bills, Jags, Browns, Raiders all have young/unproven/no quarterback and young teams. Something else I found interesting when doing some research on this topic... 1. Although the league has certainly turned to offense it still helps to have a good/great defense. Of the top 10 defenses for ypg last year, 7 made the playoffs. Of the top 10 defenses for ppg, 9 made the playoffs. In fact 11 of the top 12 made the playoffs with the only outlier being the 10-6 Jets. 2. Only 3 of the top 10 passing teams made the playoffs. 5 of the top 10 rushing teams made the playoffs. Unsurprisingly 8 of the top 10 scoring teams were playoff teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 hmmm those teams that made the playoffs also had a talented veteran team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 im sure it could cut either way. those streamlined staffs also are long term stable. i wonder what they looked like at the start when installing programs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Hahaha... you gotta get all your buddies (or relatives) jobs, because someday you may need a job yourself.Rather than have em drain your account, might as well get em jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Instead of having so many quality control type coaches maybe one of these guys needs to serve as "dorm mom" Keep the kids outa trouble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 An interesting tidbit on NFL SiriusXM yesterday had me ponder. The topic was about coaches and the teams that have the least and the most. A key point was too many hens in the hen house good or bad? Good. You stew the old chickens and keep the ones still laying eggs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 (edited) This sounds like someone making a case out of nothing. I get the whole too many cooks in the kitchen thing but if the results were the opposite they could just as easily have said the more coaches you have, the more information you have to grow and adapt to any situation. One player could be a great player because he has only played that position his entire career from pee-wee to pro and another player could be good because he's been bounced around several positions and knows the tendencies of where other players will be and/or do. It's all a matter of perspective. Edited July 15, 2016 by The Wiz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 In 2015 the Pats and Steelers were tied with the least coaches with 15. The Packers came in third, followed by Panthers. Those teams made the playoffs and those teams records combined were above .500. If my memory serves me, the pats just 3 full time employees: 1 coach (who also serves as GM), 1 guy who throws balls, and the owner. They did have 4, but terminated the deflater position. Otherwise, they have an assortment of people doing odd jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 I see a difference in that list beyond the amount of coaches. Pats*, Steelers, Packers, and Panthers all have established qbs and veteran teams. Bills, Jags, Browns, Raiders all have young/unproven/no quarterback and young teams. Something else I found interesting when doing some research on this topic... 1. Although the league has certainly turned to offense it still helps to have a good/great defense. Of the top 10 defenses for ypg last year, 7 made the playoffs. Of the top 10 defenses for ppg, 9 made the playoffs. In fact 11 of the top 12 made the playoffs with the only outlier being the 10-6 Jets. 2. Only 3 of the top 10 passing teams made the playoffs. 5 of the top 10 rushing teams made the playoffs. Unsurprisingly 8 of the top 10 scoring teams were playoff teams. This is more interesting then what the OP said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 This sounds like someone making a case out of nothing. I get the whole too many cooks in the kitchen thing but if the results were the opposite they could just as easily have said the more coaches you have, the more information you have to grow and adapt to any situation. One player could be a great player because he has only played that position his entire career from pee-wee to pro and another player could be good because he's been bounced around several positions and knows the tendencies of where other players will be and/or do. It's all a matter of perspective. I liked things better when Ralph was cheap and the Bills did everything bare bones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 I liked things better when Ralph was cheap and the Bills did everything bare bones. Back when they won because the competition was worse than our team? You really are a bills fan if you want that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 An interesting tidbit on NFL SiriusXM yesterday had me ponder. The topic was about coaches and the teams that have the least and the most. A key point was too many hens in the hen house good or bad? In 2015 the Bills led the NFL in coaches in the mid 20's. Followed by Jags, Browns and Raiders. Those teams did not make the playoffs. Combined record of all the above teams was below .500. In 2015 the Pats and Steelers were tied with the least coaches with 15. The Packers came in third, followed by Panthers. Those teams made the playoffs and those teams records combined were above .500. The topic immediately switched to having too many coaches possibly hindering the development of players or does it help the learning curve from college-to-pro. Too many coaches can cause confusion especially if they are saying different things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Too many coaches can cause confusion especially if they are saying different things Same with too little, if 15 coaches are saying different things... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 That is interesting. I was watching the show All or Nothing last night. The cards have a 'pass rush' coach. Just like in any other area of business, IF everyone is on the same page then it works...if you have different people teaching the same person different techniques...well that is when problems occur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Back when they won because the competition was worse than our team? You really are a bills fan if you want that.I'm kidding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 This sounds like someone making a case out of nothing. I get the whole too many cooks in the kitchen thing but if the results were the opposite they could just as easily have said the more coaches you have, the more information you have to grow and adapt to any situation. One player could be a great player because he has only played that position his entire career from pee-wee to pro and another player could be good because he's been bounced around several positions and knows the tendencies of where other players will be and/or do. It's all a matter of perspective. no kidding Wiz. Its a silly position to take. Having too many Coaches. Expand the knowledge base and let the younger Coaches learn the ropes doing daily diligence Too many coaches can cause confusion especially if they are saying different things Only if they are saying different things. That is an excellent point. I liked things better when Ralph was cheap and the Bills did everything bare bones. Those were the days my Friend. we thought they'd never end ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Same with too little, if 15 coaches are saying different things... too many chefs sometimes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 I'm kidding. I know. I was also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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