YoloinOhio Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 If I were in clevelands position, I'd trade #12 and a combo of other draft picks for Cousins. You can be analytics-driven all you'd like, but if you don't have a QB it's all for nought.i still think SF makes the trade for Cousins. Possibly with that 2nd pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 (edited) NFL execs opine regarding who will be the 1st QB taken: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000800928/article/ask-5-wholl-be-first-qb-selected-in-2017-nfl-draft?campaign=tw-cf-sf71542487-sf71542487 Also, draft gurus discuss how they mis-evaluated guys: https://theringer.com/2017-nfl-draft-biggest-misses-scouts-executives-9b7afdd89a7e Edited April 20, 2017 by thebandit27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 NFL execs opine regarding who will be the 1st QB taken: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000800928/article/ask-5-wholl-be-first-qb-selected-in-2017-nfl-draft?campaign=tw-cf-sf71542487-sf71542487 Also, draft gurus discuss how they mis-evaluated guys: https://theringer.com/2017-nfl-draft-biggest-misses-scouts-executives-9b7afdd89a7e Love the second link Bandit. Cheers for that. Really interesting read. I like going back and trying to work out why I was wrong on guys too. Even the 4 or so years I have been doing this I get some wrong and like the guy says about Robinson it is very rare you have missed the weaknesses you have just found ways of talking yourself around them or you have seen the strengths but spent too much time worrying about what guys can't do and missed the other way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Love the second link Bandit. Cheers for that. Really interesting read. I like going back and trying to work out why I was wrong on guys too. Even the 4 or so years I have been doing this I get some wrong and like the guy says about Robinson it is very rare you have missed the weaknesses you have just found ways of talking yourself around them or you have seen the strengths but spent too much time worrying about what guys can't do and missed the other way. That's why scouting QBs is such a conundrum. These days, they all have significant weak points, so you really need to be able to assess what translates and what doesn't. I like Mahomes the best, and have kept him as my QB1, but I keep going back to the idea that I think Trubisky's game may translate better and/or quicker to the NFL game. I'm probably guilty of dismissing too many guys versus liking too many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice_32 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 That is crazy. I would absolutely love to see him fall to 10, however unlikely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Hi Gang. I'll just drop this right here. Based on Visits, mainly. 1 or 2-----Starting WILB (Foster, Reddick, Davis, Cunningham) 1 or 2-----CB and later, a UDFA Dev. CB (Awuzie, King, Jackson, Humphrey, Witherspoon, Lawrence, Stribling, Cutrer) 2 or 3-----WR with separation (Zay Jones, Chris Godwin, Samuel, Westbrook, Stewart, Darboh, Etta-Tawo, Rogers, Hampton) 3, 4, 5, 6-----DL3-tech (Tomlinson, Wormley, Brantley, Watkins, Jarron Jones) and/or EDGE (Carl Lawson, Demarcus Walker, Rivers, Willis, Fields, Cox, Wise) 3-UDFA -----Safety, esp Box and/or Blitz (Adams, Peppers, Baker, Maye, Fields, Clemons, Hill, Johnson, Tedric Thompson, Jones, Nicholson) 3-UDFA-----Developmental QB (Peterman, Kelly, Evans, Beathard) 4-UDFA-----RB (Connor, Yearby, Dayes, Gipson, Owens, Muhummad, Green, Yearby, Chris Carson, TJ Logan , I'Tavius Mathers) 6/UDFA-----RT (Collins, Myers, Norton, Skipper, Gennesy, Moton, Seaton, Cooper). 1 or 2-----Starting WILB (Foster, Reddick, Davis, Cunningham) 1 or 2-----CB and later, a UDFA Dev. CB (Awuzie, King, Jackson, Humphrey, Witherspoon, Lawrence, Stribling, Cutrer) 2 or 3-----WR with separation (Zay Jones, Chris Godwin, Samuel, Westbrook, Stewart, Darboh, Etta-Tawo, Rogers, Hampton) 3, 4, 5, 6-----DL3-tech (Tomlinson, Wormley, Brantley, Watkins, Jarron Jones) and/or EDGE (Carl Lawson, Demarcus Walker, Rivers, Willis, Fields, Cox, Wise) 3-UDFA -----Safety, esp Box and/or Blitz (Adams, Peppers, Baker, Maye, Fields, Clemons, Hill, Johnson, Tedric Thompson, Jones, Nicholson) 3-UDFA-----Developmental QB (Peterman, Kelly, Evans, Beathard) 4-UDFA-----RB (Connor, Yearby, Dayes, Gipson, Owens, Muhummad, Green, Yearby, Chris Carson, TJ Logan , I'Tavius Mathers) 6/UDFA-----RT (Collins, Myers, Norton, Skipper, Gennesy, Moton, Seaton, Cooper). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 NFL execs opine regarding who will be the 1st QB taken: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000800928/article/ask-5-wholl-be-first-qb-selected-in-2017-nfl-draft?campaign=tw-cf-sf71542487-sf71542487 Also, draft gurus discuss how they mis-evaluated guys: https://theringer.com/2017-nfl-draft-biggest-misses-scouts-executives-9b7afdd89a7e I watched the first clip on qbs you provided and got upset knowing that the loser Bills will continue to allow opportunities to pass for other teams to seize on. What is it about this lame franchise that has failed for more than a generation and still continues to operate in the same way that it always has always operated? The Bills are in a situation where they can stay pat and come away with a qb who offers this franchise some hope. It is so irrational and dumb! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Hi Gang. I'll just drop this right here. Based on Visits, mainly. Astro thanks for this it is certainly worth paying attention to. On an aside I figure your a good person to let know... On drafttek the s/r for Corey Davis links to Solomon Thomas. I didn't see anywhere to report it (didn't look to hard lol) but figure you might be able to rectify it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watkins101 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 The closer we get to the draft, the more it looks like we will not be taking Qb or safety in the first rounds barring hooker or Adams falling to us. If we do not trade down I could see us taking Foster, Reddick, corey smith, Mike Williams, or lattimore if he is still there. Unless they have a Qb prospect they really like, I dont see them taking a Qb in the first 3 rounds, especially with the addition of Yates. Hyde and Poyer make me think that we will not be going safety early either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Dan Fetes @danfetes 31m31 minutes ago More Terry Pegula WILL have a voice in the #Bills war room but ultimately the decision will come down to BOTH GM Whaley AND McDermott #NFLDraft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 (edited) @ndtscouting Per @BobMcGinn, RB Leonard Fournette scored an 11 on the Wonderlic at the NFL Combine. McCaffery a 21. Alvin Kamara -24 Joe Mixon - 12 Dalvin Cook - 11 Edited April 20, 2017 by YoloinOhio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp2Warlick Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Around The NFLVerified account @AroundTheNFL 44s45 seconds ago More DEVELOPING: Alabama linebacker Reuben Foster failed drug test at combine http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000801347/article/alabama-linebacker-reuben-foster-failed-drug-test-at-combine?campaign=Twitter_atn … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 (edited) Dan Fetes @danfetes 31m31 minutes agoMore Terry Pegula WILL have a voice in the #Bills war room but ultimately the decision will come down to BOTH GM Whaley AND McDermott #NFLDraft Edited April 20, 2017 by jeffismagic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Around The NFLVerified account @AroundTheNFL 44s45 seconds ago More DEVELOPING: Alabama linebacker Reuben Foster failed drug test at combine http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000801347/article/alabama-linebacker-reuben-foster-failed-drug-test-at-combine?campaign=Twitter_atn Welp.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 He and Tim Williams quite the tandem eh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Kizer: I can be greatest QB to ever play, combo of Cam and Brady "No one else can do what I can do. And I've truly figured out in this process, if I can maximize all my potential in every aspect of the game -- this is bold -- I do have the ability to be the greatest quarterback to ever play," Kizer said, http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000801281/article/deshone-kizer-i-can-be-greatest-qb-of-alltime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Kizer: I can be greatest QB to ever play, combo of Cam and Brady "No one else can do what I can do. And I've truly figured out in this process, if I can maximize all my potential in every aspect of the game -- this is bold -- I do have the ability to be the greatest quarterback to ever play," Kizer said, http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000801281/article/deshone-kizer-i-can-be-greatest-qb-of-alltime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderingsquid Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Kizer: I can be greatest QB to ever play, combo of Cam and Brady "No one else can do what I can do. And I've truly figured out in this process, if I can maximize all my potential in every aspect of the game -- this is bold -- I do have the ability to be the greatest quarterback to ever play," Kizer said, http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000801281/article/deshone-kizer-i-can-be-greatest-qb-of-alltime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Kizer: I can be greatest QB to ever play, combo of Cam and Brady "No one else can do what I can do. And I've truly figured out in this process, if I can maximize all my potential in every aspect of the game -- this is bold -- I do have the ability to be the greatest quarterback to ever play," Kizer said, http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000801281/article/deshone-kizer-i-can-be-greatest-qb-of-alltime He crazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Jonathan Allen long-term shoulder concerns (arthritis) could lead to only one contract http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/profootballdoc/sd-sp-pfd-jonathan-allen-shoulder-nfl-draft-20170419-story.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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