PromoTheRobot Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 http://crankyflier.com/2016/01/19/los-angeles-may-have-the-rams-back-but-the-faa-has-problems-with-the-stadium/ You know Stan Kronke never considered the impact having LAX two miles from his dream stadium would have. The FAA is like the Spanish Inquisition...Nooooone expects them to eff up your plans until they do. I've had several FM radio projects get derailed by these guys before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 http://crankyflier.com/2016/01/19/los-angeles-may-have-the-rams-back-but-the-faa-has-problems-with-the-stadium/ You know Stan Kronke never considered the impact having LAX two miles from his dream stadium would have. The FAA is like the Spanish Inquisition...Nooooone expects them to eff up your plans until they do. I've had several FM radio projects get derailed by these guys before. There has long been talk about it so close to LAX. I have no idea what Kroenke has done, if anything about it. But it's not as though he never thought about it or people didn't bring it up. The first thing you would say if someone asked where it is would by "right by LAX." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 There has long been talk about it so close to LAX. I have no idea what Kroenke has done, if anything about it. But it's not as though he never thought about it or people didn't bring it up. The first thing you would say if someone asked where it is would by "right by LAX." Is it the old Hollywood Park and LA Forum site? Why would there be a problem with a football stadium but not hoop or a horse track? Maybe it isn't that site. I thought I read that somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 19, 2016 Author Share Posted January 19, 2016 Is it the old Hollywood Park and LA Forum site? Why would there be a problem with a football stadium but not hoop or a horse track? Maybe it isn't that site. I thought I read that somewhere. Mainly it's the height of the stadium but in this case it's also potential disruption to radar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 ooopppps. Lack of due diligence there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Is it the old Hollywood Park and LA Forum site? Why would there be a problem with a football stadium but not hoop or a horse track? Maybe it isn't that site. I thought I read that somewhere. Yes, that is the site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearNorth Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 The arches at AT&T Stadium are 292 feet above the playing field. If LA has a similar design, that's a pretty big object to be in a flight path if a heavily loaded plane were to lose an engine on takeoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthymcnasty08 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Stan forgot to grease all the right people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearNorth Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Plus no blimp coverage at that location Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Mainly it's the height of the stadium but in this case it's also potential disruption to radar. Ah...thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Stan forgot to grease all the right people. agreed. Nothing a couple quick bribes couldn't clear up. Or do they call it lobbying now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 http://crankyflier.com/2016/01/19/los-angeles-may-have-the-rams-back-but-the-faa-has-problems-with-the-stadium/ You know Stan Kronke never considered the impact having LAX two miles from his dream stadium would have. The FAA is like the Spanish Inquisition...Nooooone expects them to eff up your plans until they do. I've had several FM radio projects get derailed by these guys before. There's a high-rise in Arlington, on the landing path to National Airport (maybe a mile away), that the FAA had serious reservations about...but finally permitted (even though some people from Saudi Arabia bought the top three floors and turned them in to a penthouse). I think a stadium two miles away from LAX should be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 How is this different from Shea/Citifield and its proximity to LaGuardia - which I think is about half the distance that the proposed L.A. stadium will be from LAX? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombstone56 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 KINDA like having a casino next to where a proposed s stadium site is huh, gee where did that happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 How is this different from Shea/Citifield and its proximity to LaGuardia - which I think is about half the distance that the proposed L.A. stadium will be from LAX? Rodney covers it starting at about 2:00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 With all due repsect to "crankyflier.com", I doubt this changes much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 There's a high-rise in Arlington, on the landing path to National Airport (maybe a mile away), that the FAA had serious reservations about...but finally permitted (even though some people from Saudi Arabia bought the top three floors and turned them in to a penthouse). I think a stadium two miles away from LAX should be fine. This one..and a more recent case...the Santa Clara 49ers stadium is in an approach path for San Jose International and about 2.5 miles away. It will be interesting. I was at the Forum over the New Year holiday. Its a great site -- Kronke has more than just a stadium planned -- its multi-use retail, office and I even believe some residential. Its got wonderful existing access... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthymcnasty08 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 (edited) agreed. Nothing a couple quick bribes couldn't clear up. Or do they call it lobbying now? Don Fanucci has to wet his beak. Edited January 19, 2016 by filthymcnasty08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 (edited) http://crankyflier.com/2016/01/19/los-angeles-may-have-the-rams-back-but-the-faa-has-problems-with-the-stadium/ You know Stan Kronke never considered the impact having LAX two miles from his dream stadium would have. The FAA is like the Spanish Inquisition...Nooooone expects them to eff up your plans until they do. I've had several FM radio projects get derailed by these guys before. Except that according to the link provided above, a report questioning the impact of the stadium on LAX approach radar came out in November. Sounds like the stadium designers assumed if the 20 year old design was OK, their lower design would be fine and didn't consider materials. Not sympathetic to FM radio projects that are questioned, the upper FM frequencies butting right against the lower FM frequencies used by ILS (instrument landing system) approaches (used by enroute navigation too, but that's largely redundant). Once looked out the left window of a commercial airliner shooting the ILS 30L into STL. Got a prime view of a billboard much TFC to the plane's left wingtip. Pilot exited the cockpit looking as though he saw God and his Angels next to the Fires of the Pit. Found out pilots had been reporting intermittant interferance with the localizer for a couple of months. That kind of thing is a bear for the FAA to track down as it can have nothing to do with their equipment. Could be some ijit with a pirate FM station only operating intermittantly, who knows. I doubt the rest of the plane had any idea how close they came to glory. agreed. Nothing a couple quick bribes couldn't clear up. Or do they call it lobbying now? You want the safety and convenience of an aviation system running on bribes and with more radar holes than a habitrail maze, move to Brazil. Hear the beaches are great thataway. Edited January 19, 2016 by Hopeful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthymcnasty08 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 You want the safety and convenience of an aviation system running on bribes and with more radar holes than a habitrail maze, move to Brazil. Hear the beaches are great thataway. I'd say he's just fine where he is for a place where the safety of the public falls short to big business. Watch that stadium get built as planned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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