Deranged Rhino Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Boehner: Ted Cruz is 'Lucifer in the flesh' When it comes to Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, even a few months’ time out of Congress has done little to lessen former Speaker John Boehner’s contempt for his former Capitol Hill colleague. “Lucifer in the flesh,” Boehner told an audience at Stanford on Wednesday night, according to the Stanford Daily. “I have Democrat friends and Republican friends. I get along with almost everyone, but I have never worked with a more miserable son of a B word in my life.” http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/john-beohner-ted-cruz-lucifer-222570 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Can't believe her beat looking face is back... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Boehner: Ted Cruz is 'Lucifer in the flesh' When it comes to Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, even a few months’ time out of Congress has done little to lessen former Speaker John Boehner’s contempt for his former Capitol Hill colleague. “Lucifer in the flesh,” Boehner told an audience at Stanford on Wednesday night, according to the Stanford Daily. “I have Democrat friends and Republican friends. I get along with almost everyone, but I have never worked with a more miserable son of a B word in my life.” http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/john-beohner-ted-cruz-lucifer-222570 Cruz was able to successfully build a brand, but that brand comes with a lot of baggage. You can not understate how detrimental it is to him not having hardly any support of the "establishment". I think it says a lot that just about everyone who has worked with him, can't stand him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Cruz was able to successfully build a brand, but that brand comes with a lot of baggage. You can not understate how detrimental it is to him not having hardly any support of the "establishment". I think it says a lot that just about everyone who has worked with him, can't stand him. Agreed. Especially the bolded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Agreed. Especially the bolded. When all you do is pontificate and don't ever sit down and work out deals, you won't get far. I sound like a Trump voter. Actually, I sound like Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Cruz was able to successfully build a brand, but that brand comes with a lot of baggage. You can not understate how detrimental it is to him not having hardly any support of the "establishment". I think it says a lot that just about everyone who has worked with him, can't stand him. Neither Cruz nor Trump have the support of "the establishment", yet both lead the polls among rank & file Republicans. "Establishment" Republicans have only themselves to blame for the rise of these "outsiders", and they'll only have themselves to blame if and when the party fractures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Neither Cruz nor Trump have the support of "the establishment", yet both lead the polls among rank & file Republicans. "Establishment" Republicans have only themselves to blame for the rise of these "outsiders", and they'll only have themselves to blame if and when the party fractures. If Trump gets the nomination, the GOP will burn from the inside out, and you'll sooner see conservatives abandoning the party in droves. “Lucifer in the flesh,” Boehner told an audience at Stanford on Wednesday night, according to the Stanford Daily. “I have Democrat friends and Republican friends. I get along with almost everyone, but I have never worked with a more miserable son of a B word in my life.” Says the guy who retired early because of people like Cruz. I liked Boehner, but he was part of the problem, not the solution. The minute he saw Cantor get killed, he began his exit strategy because conservatives were no longer interested in playing the same role the gatormans play for the left. Think you'll ever see Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi or Barbara Boxer get beat? No way in hell. Because the left does as it's told above all else. The conservatives gave Boehner and McConnell the world, and they pissed all over the opportunity. That is why you're hearing and seeing the GOP schitt the bed on this election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Spoken for truth, LA. Spoken for truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 If Trump gets the nomination, the GOP will burn from the inside out, and you'll sooner see conservatives abandoning the party in droves. With all due respect, conservatives have already begun to leave the party in droves. The party has routinely shunned conservatives for years now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 What should have Boehner and McConnell achieved with the House and Senate under their control? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 If Trump gets the nomination, the GOP will burn from the inside out, and you'll sooner see conservatives abandoning the party in droves. Says the guy who retired early because of people like Cruz. I liked Boehner, but he was part of the problem, not the solution. The minute he saw Cantor get killed, he began his exit strategy because conservatives were no longer interested in playing the same role the gatormans play for the left. Think you'll ever see Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi or Barbara Boxer get beat? No way in hell. Because the left does as it's told above all else. The conservatives gave Boehner and McConnell the world, and they pissed all over the opportunity. That is why you're hearing and seeing the GOP schitt the bed on this election. Disagree that Boehner is part of the problem. The people who operate in the middle solve problems. The Cruz's of the world won't get dikk accomplished. Boehner had Obama to the brink of addressing medicare, social security, and defense spending and a true deal on reducing the debt. You have to give to get. The current Congress doesn't understand that and instead divide out into party charicatures who don't have the maturity to understand how to work together. It's intellectually weak and fails us all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 A kid asks Ted Cruz to sign his copy of the Communist Manifesto as a joke and here’s what Cruz wrote: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 (edited) Disagree that Boehner is part of the problem. The people who operate in the middle solve problems. The Cruz's of the world won't get dikk accomplished. Boehner had Obama to the brink of addressing medicare, social security, and defense spending and a true deal on reducing the debt. You have to give to get. The current Congress doesn't understand that and instead divide out into party charicatures who don't have the maturity to understand how to work together. It's intellectually weak and fails us all. Obama reneged on that deal and people on both sides of the aisle agree to that point. At the last minute, after the deal was agreed to in principle, Obama got grief from the far left that he was not getting enough, so like the unseasoned leader that he is, he upped an ante he knew Boehner couldn't get done. Blaming Cruz is just stupid. Edited April 28, 2016 by LABillzFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Neither Cruz nor Trump have the support of "the establishment", yet both lead the polls among rank & file Republicans. "Establishment" Republicans have only themselves to blame for the rise of these "outsiders", and they'll only have themselves to blame if and when the party fractures. What do you blame the establishment for? What are they doing that is fracturing the party? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 What do you blame the establishment for? What are they doing that is fracturing the party? Positioned the federal government as the center o the universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Positioned the federal government as the center o the universe. What do you mean? Details, please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Obama reneged on that deal and people on both sides of the aisle agree to that point. At the last minute, after the deal was agreed to in principle, Obama got grief from the far left that he was not getting enough, so like the unseasoned leader that he is, he upped an ante he knew Boehner couldn't get done. Blaming Cruz is just stupid. You're missing the point. I brought up the debt deal as an example of why we need people like Boehner and not Cruz. Cruz could never have gotten to the table on that deal. Of course Obama messed that up. That's the famous "moved the goal post" moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 You're missing the point. I brought up the debt deal as an example of why we need people like Boehner and not Cruz. Cruz could never have gotten to the table on that deal. Of course Obama messed that up. That's the famous "moved the goal post" moment. So Cruz wouldn't have made a deal with a guy who everyone knew had no intention on carrying it through? Gee. Sure glad we avoided that embarrassment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 What do you mean? Details, please Now you're asking someone to obfuscate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Now you're asking someone to obfuscate? No he's asking 4merper4mer to obfuscate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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