Dragonborn10 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I didn't trust his resume with the talent he played against. So hard to tell with these guys. Look at Fisher the year before. Looks like a bust from a small school. And OLB was just as big a need as WR. I still think Sammy can be a superstar but but... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 (edited) I didn't trust his resume with the talent he played against. So hard to tell with these guys. Look at Fisher the year before. Looks like a bust from a small school. And OLB was just as big a need as WR. I still think Sammy can be a superstar but but... Mack would've been a DE in a 4-3 and that wasn't a need at all. He even plays RE now. Edited December 15, 2015 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Did you watch OBJ against Miami tonight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Did you watch OBJ against Miami tonight? sammy actually had more catches and more yards vs Miami in week 9 than obj did tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 sammy actually had more catches and more yards vs Miami in week 9 than obj did tonight. 6 straight 100+ yard games though. 8 TD's in that stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Jason La Canfora @JasonLaCanfora Sammy Watkins is nice and all... but the Bills trading up for him when Odell goes 8 picks later will haunt them nearly as much as EJ pick La Canfora about to be attacked by a raging Bills Mafia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bouds Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Good thing they took Darby with their second round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Rex would have Mack in pass coverage every play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I didn't trust his resume with the talent he played against. So hard to tell with these guys. Look at Fisher the year before. Looks like a bust from a small school. And OLB was just as big a need as WR.I still think Sammy can be a superstar but but... but he's no OBJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bouds Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Remember when Darby and Gilmore completely shutdown OBJ, good times! We had hope back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted December 15, 2015 Author Share Posted December 15, 2015 Mack would've been a DE in a 4-3 and that wasn't a need at all. He even plays RE now.Depends on the package. He could have played OLB or DE. He would have been more stout against the run at DE than Hughes. They could have both played at the same time. Imagine rushing Dareus up the middle and Mario, Mack, and Hughes from wherever. Total chaos. Watkins can still be a top 5 WR maybe even top 3. Just amazes me the time and effort put into college recruiting and the NFL draft, and yet no one really knows how these guys will develop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Depends on the package. He could have played OLB or DE. He would have been more stout against the run at DE than Hughes. They could have both played at the same time. Imagine rushing Dareus up the middle and Mario, Mack, and Hughes from wherever. Total chaos. Watkins can still be a top 5 WR maybe even top 3. Just amazes me the time and effort put into college recruiting and the NFL draft, and yet no one really knows how these guys will develop. Mack as an OLB in Schwartz' 4-3 would've been a criminal under use of his talents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Its all relative Would we have drafted Darby with our 2nd rounder if we would have drafted ODB and had our 1st round pick this past year? Lets keep in mind that Rex really covets first rounders. Would we have taken a higher rated DB with that 1st round pick if we had it to use? hmmmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PO16FFS Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Simple question: What would Watkins do with Eli Manning as his QB? This year the BIlls will roughly pick 8-12th. Go get the best WR to accompany Watkins. Next year's offense will look great with TT, McCoy, Watkins, Clay, Woods and the new WR. This way Woods would be #3 where he belongs and Hogan would fall down the totum poll where he belongs as well! If were gonna lose 23-20, 17-13 etc....might as well make it exciting and lose 35-31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Sammy had a terrible game against the Eagles. These guys need to stop believing their own hype and start focusing on winning. Enough of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simpleman Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I really thought that was why we traded up, to get Mack, not Sammy. I was not happy about such a step price to get Mack. But was thinking "oh well he might be worth the risk". Thought having the LBs as Kiko and Mack was a stellar combo dream. Then they drafted Sammy, I said WTF! Nice, but not at that price with all the projected WR talent that year. I was quite confident we could get a very good WR in the 2nd round with such depth at WR that year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 In this D Mack would have 5 sacks on the year. But that's okay, he'd also have 5 passes defensed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 For LaCanfora to say ODB is better when he has Manning throwing to him vs Manual, Orton, and TT is just plain stupid on his part. No way you can equate one to the other. I could more see the argument made if you don't have a great QB, why make the trade, though even that I personally don't agree with, but it's a harder point to argue against. Jason La Canfora @JasonLaCanfora Sammy Watkins is nice and all... but the Bills trading up for him when Odell goes 8 picks later will haunt them nearly as much as EJ pick La Canfora about to be attacked by a raging Bills Mafia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOVABillsFan Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 (edited) Offense vs defense. An apple to oranges comparisson. FWIW - Look at Sammys #'s then look at who he's had at QB for the majority of the past 2 seasons. Kyle "I quit" Orton The inexperienced/developing Tyrod Taylor (who seems to forget he's on the field when it matters) WRT OBJ. he's a whining primadonna who happens to have a SB champ at QB. Edited December 15, 2015 by NOVABillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Clear as day ODB is better, running routes, getting separation, consistently catching the ball, and making spectacular catches Watkins isnt....doesn't matter who the QB is to see those things. IMO Beckham is the best player in the league right now. As I said in a different thread, Sammy is more like a bigger Lee Evans, than a smaller Julio Jones. He gets some first half strikes, but after defenses adjust to his speed, he becomes largely invisible...doesn't have the route running ability to get separation, running ability to turn short routes and reverses into big gains, nor the vertical to win jump balls. Against eagles also had some crucial drops. He's good and can help win games....as Lee Evans was...but to compare him to OBD and a handful of other trule elite WRs is kinda silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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