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Donald Trumps Plan to Bar Foreign Muslims Might Survive a Lawsuit

 

Under a provision of immigration law, Congress has already delegated to the president broad power to issue a proclamation indefinitely blocking the entry of any class of aliens into the United States that he or she thinks would be detrimental to the interests of the United States. No president has ever used that power in such a sweeping way, but the text provides a potential statutory basis for a President Trump to carry out his plan, specialists said.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/12/09/us/politics/donald-trumps-plan-to-bar-foreign-muslims-might-survive-a-lawsuit.html?referer=https://news.google.com/

 

Representative democracy? What's that? Hooray for authoritarianism!

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Donald Trumps Plan to Bar Foreign Muslims Might Survive a Lawsuit

 

Under a provision of immigration law, Congress has already delegated to the president broad power to issue a proclamation indefinitely blocking the entry of any class of aliens into the United States that he or she thinks would be detrimental to the interests of the United States. No president has ever used that power in such a sweeping way, but the text provides a potential statutory basis for a President Trump to carry out his plan, specialists said.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/12/09/us/politics/donald-trumps-plan-to-bar-foreign-muslims-might-survive-a-lawsuit.html?referer=https://news.google.com/

Seems like I read somewhere earlier in this thread where Jimmy Carter did just that with respect to Iranians.

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It looks like Trump is going all out to get Hillary elected by a landslide , and I don't like either Clinton.

 

This reminds me of George Wallace running for president.

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We need to go to near zero immigration, fix the shortcomings and resume once things are fixed. That's what I would do. Run it the way a good business would run it.

 

****, if Obama and Jeh Jeh showed up at a meeting in a real company and reported over and over to their superiors anything that resembles our immigration system they would be escorted to the parking lot.

 

Do you actually know how immigration is handled these days? Can you identify the shortcomings? Do you have any data to better back up your statements and come to some proposals?

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Do you actually know how immigration is handled these days? Can you identify the shortcomings? Do you have any data to better back up your statements and come to some proposals?

 

Here's how immigration is handled these days:

 

Wander across the Rio Grande. Stay. Get licenses, health insurance, and free education for children.

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We need to go to near zero immigration, fix the shortcomings and resume once things are fixed. That's what I would do. Run it the way a good business would run it.

 

 

Let's apply a real estate developer's analogy.

 

Let's say one of your steel contractors can't meet the necessary specifications. He and you know the issue but it will take some time to fix. Will your response be to halt all steel deliveries until you figure something out, or do you continue working with other contractors who don't have that issue?

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Seems like I read somewhere earlier in this thread where Jimmy Carter did just that with respect to Iranians.

 

A bit different to deny entry of citizens of a country vs members of a religion.

 

But no one is letting that get in the way of a bad analogy.

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How?

 

We have national and international agreements and laws governing relationships between countries. We don't have national and international agreements laws governing relationships between countries and religions.

 

By way of a simple example: the US and Jordan have some sort of arrangement to issue visas to each others' citizens. The US and Islam do not.

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Let's apply a real estate developer's analogy.

 

Let's say one of your steel contractors can't meet the necessary specifications. He and you know the issue but it will take some time to fix. Will your response be to halt all steel deliveries until you figure something out, or do you continue working with other contractors who don't have that issue?

That is a terrible and meaningless analogy. Immigration is not a project. It is a process of granting rights requested by non-citizens. It is our country extending a hand to people. It has been a good thing for this country historically but there are too many abuses and risks of late and citizens are being harmed in more ways than one.

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That is a terrible and meaningless analogy. Immigration is not a project. It is a process of granting rights requested by non-citizens. It is our country extending a hand to people. It has been a good thing for this country historically but there are too many abuses and risks of late and citizens are being harmed in more ways than one.

 

Fine & dandy, except he wasn't talking about immigration, but

 

total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States

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how bout this analogy: repugs failure to convincingly denounce trump is akin to muslim leaders failure to convincingly denounce extremist groups that call themselves muslims.

 

Well they pressed the denounce button in the diplomacy panel but I guess that`s not enough for you.

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how bout this analogy: repugs failure to convincingly denounce trump is akin to muslim leaders failure to convincingly denounce extremist groups that call themselves muslims.

 

 

It fails.

 

Because Republicans leaders across the board have condemned the proposal.

 

But don't let that get in the way of your bias

 

 

(convincingly) :lol:

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