BillsNYC Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 TD said that if Shane wants the Backup job, its his. Shane is speaking with his family about it and will let them know. Guess we won't be bringing in anybody else... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 The Bills still need a 3rd QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 TD said that if Shane wants the Backup job, its his. Shane is speaking with his family about it and will let them know. Guess we won't be bringing in anybody else... 241893[/snapback] We'll have to bring someone else in. We need bodies at the very least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Playfair Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 that is nuts. we need a strong backup. which may cost us more then the 2.2 we saved from releasing bledsoe. i still think we should have kept bledsoe and put him at no. 2 - i dont care what he wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 I still think the Bills will draft a QB just to man the 3rd QB spot and to groom to be Losman's backup when Matthews does eventually retire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 Uh, is that what TD actually said? I didn't hear the audio. BillsDaily.com wrote that the it was said that the Bills will bring in a backup soon, and that Matthews is a "canidate" for the backup job. Somone please clarify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 Great. We may have an unproven being backed up by a nobody. What a friggin mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 Great. We may have an unproven being backed up by a nobody. What a friggin mess. Don't worry. Things will be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsNYC Posted February 16, 2005 Author Share Posted February 16, 2005 Uh, is that what TD actually said? I didn't hear the audio. BillsDaily.com wrote that the it was said that the Bills will bring in a backup soon, and that Matthews is a "canidate" for the backup job. Somone please clarify. 241915[/snapback] He brought up Shane twice, one time saying "Shane is the ideal backup" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Guy on the Bench Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 Uh, is that what TD actually said? I didn't hear the audio. BillsDaily.com wrote that the it was said that the Bills will bring in a backup soon, and that Matthews is a "canidate" for the backup job. Somone please clarify. 241915[/snapback] That's what Mularkey said, I think. But Donahoe was much more effusive, and made several comments. Don't have the exact quotes, but you didn't have to read deep between the lines to see that Matthews was their first choice, but that he was still pondering family issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin in Va Beach Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 Great. We may have an unproven being backed up by a nobody. What a friggin mess. 241916[/snapback] You were bitchin' non-stop about the oline pre-season and in the beginning of the season, mocking anyone who said McNally would make them better. At the end of the season you openly admitted to eating a big plate of crow. Now your bitchin' non-stop about Bledsoe possibly being released and now that Bledsoe IS being released, mocking anyone who says Losman might have the goods to succeed. Methinks at the end of this season you will openly admit that you loved crow so much you've decided to have seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 You were bitchin' non-stop about the oline pre-season and in the beginning of the season, mocking anyone who said McNally would make them better. At the end of the season you openly admitted to eating a big plate of crow. Now your bitchin' non-stop about Bledsoe possibly being released and now that Bledsoe IS being released, mocking anyone who says Losman might have the goods to succeed. Methinks at the end of this season you will openly admit that you loved crow so much you've decided to have seconds. 241929[/snapback] Yes, I openly admitted to being happily wrong about McNally, something not so many do around here. As for JP, I WANT him to do well because I am a Bills fan. What is wrong with having my doubts and expressing them? I wish I had your confidence in him. Imo, he is an unknown commodity and yes, I will happily admit it if I am wrong once again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2003Contenders Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 This shouldn't surprise anyone that has watched TD over the years -- both here and in Pittsburgh. He's never been a fan of having a potential starter serve as a backup. Even in 2001, when there were real risks with RJ, he stuck with AVP. With Bledsoe struggling, we relied on AVP and Shane. Clearly TD does not like QB controversies -- and believes in providing his starter with 100% support. Looking at it this way, Shane is HIS perfect candidate for the backup job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightRider Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 I still think the Bills will draft a QB just to man the 3rd QB spot and to groom to be Losman's backup when Matthews does eventually retire. 241911[/snapback] That would be my guess, too. A Frank Reich or AVP type... Very smart, but talent limited... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 This shouldn't surprise anyone that has watched TD over the years -- both here and in Pittsburgh. He's never been a fan of having a potential starter serve as a backup. Even in 2001, when there were real risks with RJ, he stuck with AVP. With Bledsoe struggling, we relied on AVP and Shane. Clearly TD does not like QB controversies -- and believes in providing his starter with 100% support. Looking at it this way, Shane is HIS perfect candidate for the backup job. 242128[/snapback] I can see TD's point. I won't be too upset if we go into the season without a backup who could also be a starter. But I have seen Shane play (as a Deadskin). He really is piss poor. Why the hell did TD have to screw Travis Brown over so bad last year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 I can see TD's point. I won't be too upset if we go into the season without a backup who could also be a starter. But I have seen Shane play (as a Deadskin). He really is piss poor. Why the hell did TD have to screw Travis Brown over so bad last year? 242136[/snapback] Shane sucked, and yes I saw him as a foreskin as well. Travis also is horrible, a lot worse then Shane ever was. The rose colored glasses for Travis covered the brown stuff he had on the field. I don't see Shane sticking around. But you never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dib Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 Dear God no! He's a Gator! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 Dear God no! He's a Gator! 242145[/snapback] And a good pal of Steve Spurrier! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dib Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 And a good pal of Steve Spurrier! 242149[/snapback] What's the difference between God and Steve Spurrier? God doesnt think he's a football coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Syracuse Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 Yes, I openly admitted to being happily wrong about McNally, something not so many do around here. As for JP, I WANT him to do well because I am a Bills fan. What is wrong with having my doubts and expressing them? I wish I had your confidence in him. Imo, he is an unknown commodity and yes, I will happily admit it if I am wrong once again. 241950[/snapback] We'd have to start another message board to hold all your posts on issues you've been wrong about. It' ok though, it give the rest of us something to laugh at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stussy109 Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 Uh, is that what TD actually said? I didn't hear the audio. BillsDaily.com wrote that the it was said that the Bills will bring in a backup soon, and that Matthews is a "canidate" for the backup job. Somone please clarify. 241915[/snapback] That is what mularkey said, i never heard him say Matthews was guranteed... He did slip and say that there was a proven veteran that they were looking at. then the matthews comment comes after that inregards to a question about him. I wouldn't be surprised if we end up with Warner...He's a good back-up, can still win games, and doesn't have a me first attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 That is what mularkey said, i never heard him say Matthews was guranteed... He did slip and say that there was a proven veteran that they were looking at. then the matthews comment comes after that inregards to a question about him. I wouldn't be surprised if we end up with Warner...He's a good back-up, can still win games, and doesn't have a me first attitude. 242189[/snapback] And he has a hot wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 That is what mularkey said, i never heard him say Matthews was guranteed... He did slip and say that there was a proven veteran that they were looking at. then the matthews comment comes after that inregards to a question about him. I wouldn't be surprised if we end up with Warner...He's a good back-up, can still win games, and doesn't have a me first attitude. 242189[/snapback] Warner wants to start, he already made that clear, which is why he is leaving the Giants. If he wanted to be a back-up, why not just stick around in NY? I see Warner going to Chicago or Arizona where he can start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stussy109 Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 Warner wants to start, he already made that clear, which is why he is leaving the Giants. If he wanted to be a back-up, why not just stick around in NY? I see Warner going to Chicago or Arizona where he can start. 242194[/snapback] Because he only had a one year deal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shameless Homer Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 So now it is OK for a moderator to step in and attack another poster? I guess that makes it OK for me to tell you that you can suck my dick, right? 242170[/snapback] I'm with 'ol Bill on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 I'm with 'ol Bill on this one. 242200[/snapback] Bill hasn't posted again since.... think he's still with us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 So now it is OK for a moderator to step in and attack another poster? I guess that makes it OK for me to tell you that you can suck my dick, right? 242170[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 The moderators did not delete my post, nor did they ask me to. I deleted it. I did it because I love this site, and do not want to do a wrong thing, nor set a bad example. His attack was juvenile, but my response was worse. I apologize to fellow posters, the other moderators and SDS. Now, back to football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWings Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 Warner wants to start, he already made that clear, which is why he is leaving the Giants. If he wanted to be a back-up, why not just stick around in NY? I see Warner going to Chicago or Arizona where he can start. 242194[/snapback] Doesn't Chicago have Rex Grossman? If I recall, he was the starter until he got injured and was done foe the year last season. Hence, the experiments with the likes of Craig Krenzel and Chad Hutchinson. And who knows what Arizona's goals are. Seems like Luke McKown was the guy until Dennis Green started a rotation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 Matthews had 1 apperance last season. Came in stone cold, had an obvious "been there, done that" approach, went 2 of 3 and a td pass. One might argue the case that Matthews would have beat Pittsburgh, even with the oddball game plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 We'll have to bring someone else in. We need bodies at the very least. 241902[/snapback] We already have two bodies: Kevin Thompson and Tory Woodbury as per Bills Report.com Of course even if they do re-sign Matthews, I think it be wise to sign another veteran QB to compete for the #2 spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 We already have two bodies: Kevin Thompson and Tory Woodbury as per Bills Report.com Of course even if they do re-sign Matthews, I think it be wise to sign another veteran QB to compete for the #2 spot. 242547[/snapback] To compete, yes, if Matthews returns. Otherwise, if only because of the money angle, #3 will be a "prospect". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cåblelady Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 Shane Matthews Oh, freakin' great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 Shane Matthews Oh, freakin' great. 242573[/snapback] I don't understand the animosity against Matthews. When he came in the one time, he got a td. In his 11 year career, he was a fair qb, not flash, but smart and decidedly not one to make egregious mistakes. Is that not a good resume for a back-up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 Dear God, If we do indeed draft a #3 QB, please let it not be Chris Rix. Thank You, Ramius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cåblelady Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 I don't understand the animosity against Matthews. 242586[/snapback] Not animosity. Just apathy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 Dear God, If we do indeed draft a #3 QB, please let it not be Chris Rix. Thank You, Ramius 242593[/snapback] I'm hoping the Raiders draft him. They need a pal for Janikowski (sp). Either Rix, or U of Cincinnati's Gino Guiduli... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 Where are George Blanda and Don Strock when you need them? Maybe Sam Wyche will want to suit up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 Where are George Blanda and Don Strock when you need them? Maybe Sam Wyche will want to suit up. 242641[/snapback] Given the MF'ing that fans here give qb's, they are likely in the long list of quarterbacks who would rather eat manure than come here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake-Fat Sunny Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 I don't understand the animosity against Matthews. When he came in the one time, he got a td. In his 11 year career, he was a fair qb, not flash, but smart and decidedly not one to make egregious mistakes. Is that not a good resume for a back-up? 242586[/snapback] I agree that it is apathy because even though he seems like a nice guy an has enough years in the league to have a good disaster QB resume, he does not have enough of a resume to seem to be a good #2 for us. I think we want a #2 who has: 1. Seasoned nice guy who has proven he is a team player- Matthews seems to be OK here. 2. A QB who has been there before with a record of success leading a team to the playoffs and preferably the SB- Mathews does not seem to have this and this would particularly seem to be a useful thing in training a young QB. 3. A reasonable chance of leading the team to a few wins in a Frank Reich kind of way if the starter gets knocked out for a few games- I see no real proof that Matthews has what it takes here, but actually few back-up can prove this until they get the chance. There are players like Hobert who have the physical tools but not the mental power to be a back-up. There are players like AVP who can win games and be outstanding in mid-game relief, but if the other team and DBs get to look at a little film and prepare to exploit his weaknesses he can be had. There are perfect back-ups like Frank Reich who cannot only come in relief but actually are even better when they have a little time to prepare. There are the Tom Bradys who should be starting. 4. Know there role and will not be a cancer when they do well snf have a #2 cap hit. I have real doubts about Matthews for numbers 2 and 3. The ironic thing here is that Bledsoe sucks as a #1 but actually has clear indicators that as far as #1, 2 and 3 he would have been the perfect back-up for JP. Unfortunately his cap hit was too high and though he is unlikely to ever be a cancer he still sees himself as a starter and needed to be cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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