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1 hour ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

No idea why this is "controversial."

 

US Supreme Court lets 'Remain in Mexico' asylum policy stay in place
 

The Supreme Court said on Wednesday that the controversial Trump administration "Remain in Mexico" asylum policy can stay in effect while legal challenges play out.
 

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....and here's a REAL shocker............

 

"Justice Sonia Sotomayor would have denied the government's application, the court said."

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Follow up on the above post.........

 

 

TWO MEMBERS OF THE U.S. COMMISSION ON CIVIL RIGHTS ISSUE STATEMENT:

 

IT’S TIME FOR THE COMMISSION ON CIVIL RIGHTS TO STOP USING WORDS LIKE “RACISM,” “XENOPHOBIA,” “HATE,” AND “HATEFUL” SO INDISCRIMINATELY.

 

 On March 20, 2020, the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights issued a statement expressing “grave concern” and “alarm[]” over “recent demonstrations of violence and hate toward people of Asian descent.” It warns of a “growing anti-Asian racism and xenophobia.” For the reasons we will explain below, we declined to support that statement.

 

We agree, of course, that COVID-19 is no excuse for anyone to attack or insult individuals of Asian descent and that when such acts rise to the level of criminal behavior, law enforcement should immediately intervene. But that’s obvious to just about everyone in America. The rare exception is unlikely to read the Commission’s statement, much less be persuaded by it.

 

It is important to keep things in perspective. Given that the population of the United States is estimated to be over 330,000,000, the litany of incidents in the Commission’s statement is really quite small; most involve misbehavior by children or teenagers. Yes, a nine-year-old child in New Jersey was told by a classmate, “You’re Chinese, so you must have coronavirus.” But that’s why we send nine-year-olds to school; they’ve got a lot to learn. For adults to view the statement as hateful would be over the top. We’re talking about a child.

 

More serious is the case of the New York teenager who kicked an Asian-American man in the back, knocking him to the ground. Surely that is (and should be) a matter for the police. Fortunately, there is nothing to show this thuggish behavior represents a wave of racial violence.

 

Here is our biggest objection: The Commission make the ill-advised suggestion that referring to COVID-19 with terms like “Chinese coronavirus” is somehow fueling “[t]his latest wave of xenophobic animosity toward Asian Americans.” It is common to refer to infectious diseases by their geographic origin. Examples include Asian flu, Bolivian hemorrhagic fever, Brazilian hemorrhagic fever, Ebola, German measles, Japanese encephalitis, Lyme disease, Marburg virus, Middle East respiratory syndrome (MERS), Pontiac fever, Rift Valley fever, Rocky Mountain spotted fever, Spanish flu, Venezuelan hemorrhagic fever, and West Nile virus. In the case of Spanish flu, it was probably a misnomer. That disease likely originated in Kansas instead. But calling it the Spanish flu was never an indication that people hated Spaniards. It was simply a case in which the Spanish press reported on the flu extensively while the American press was preoccupied with World War I and subject to censorship. People therefore made the mistake of believing it originated in Spain.

 

It is counter-productive to hector the American people (or its leaders) about describing the COVID-19 as “Chinese” or as having originated in China. It did originate there. Ordinary Americans—of all races and ethnicities—who harbor no ill will toward anyone don’t like to have the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights imply that that they are fueling the flames of xenophobic animosity.   We can’t blame them. It is insulting.

 

Our colleagues on the Commission close their statement by writing under the current circumstances no American should be “ostracized solely because of their race or national origin.” That is certainly sensible enough. We would add that Americans should not be ostracized on account of false accusations that their conduct has been racist, xenophobic and hateful. The promiscuous use of those terms needs to stop.

 

Gail Heriot & Peter N. Kirsanow, Members, U.S. Commission on Civil Rights

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41 minutes ago, B-Man said:


When they talked about this at the press conference yesterday, my thought was... will this continue after the Wuhan Flu hysteria calms down?  If so, another unintended consequence that the globalists will be unhappy about.

 

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14 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:


When they talked about this at the press conference yesterday, my thought was... will this continue after the Wuhan Flu hysteria calms down?  If so, another unintended consequence that the globalists will be unhappy about.

 

 

...cannot consider your post further....you are a racist by your depiction....

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On 3/20/2020 at 2:44 PM, B-Man said:

 

Follow up on the above post.........

 

 

TWO MEMBERS OF THE U.S. COMMISSION ON CIVIL RIGHTS ISSUE STATEMENT:

 

IT’S TIME FOR THE COMMISSION ON CIVIL RIGHTS TO STOP USING WORDS LIKE “RACISM,” “XENOPHOBIA,” “HATE,” AND “HATEFUL” SO INDISCRIMINATELY.

 

 On March 20, 2020, the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights issued a statement expressing “grave concern” and “alarm[]” over “recent demonstrations of violence and hate toward people of Asian descent.” It warns of a “growing anti-Asian racism and xenophobia.” For the reasons we will explain below, we declined to support that statement.

 

We agree, of course, that COVID-19 is no excuse for anyone to attack or insult individuals of Asian descent and that when such acts rise to the level of criminal behavior, law enforcement should immediately intervene. But that’s obvious to just about everyone in America. The rare exception is unlikely to read the Commission’s statement, much less be persuaded by it.

 

It is important to keep things in perspective. Given that the population of the United States is estimated to be over 330,000,000, the litany of incidents in the Commission’s statement is really quite small; most involve misbehavior by children or teenagers. Yes, a nine-year-old child in New Jersey was told by a classmate, “You’re Chinese, so you must have coronavirus.” But that’s why we send nine-year-olds to school; they’ve got a lot to learn. For adults to view the statement as hateful would be over the top. We’re talking about a child.

 

More serious is the case of the New York teenager who kicked an Asian-American man in the back, knocking him to the ground. Surely that is (and should be) a matter for the police. Fortunately, there is nothing to show this thuggish behavior represents a wave of racial violence.

 

Here is our biggest objection: The Commission make the ill-advised suggestion that referring to COVID-19 with terms like “Chinese coronavirus” is somehow fueling “[t]his latest wave of xenophobic animosity toward Asian Americans.” It is common to refer to infectious diseases by their geographic origin. Examples include Asian flu, Bolivian hemorrhagic fever, Brazilian hemorrhagic fever, Ebola, German measles, Japanese encephalitis, Lyme disease, Marburg virus, Middle East respiratory syndrome (MERS), Pontiac fever, Rift Valley fever, Rocky Mountain spotted fever, Spanish flu, Venezuelan hemorrhagic fever, and West Nile virus. In the case of Spanish flu, it was probably a misnomer. That disease likely originated in Kansas instead. But calling it the Spanish flu was never an indication that people hated Spaniards. It was simply a case in which the Spanish press reported on the flu extensively while the American press was preoccupied with World War I and subject to censorship. People therefore made the mistake of believing it originated in Spain.

 

It is counter-productive to hector the American people (or its leaders) about describing the COVID-19 as “Chinese” or as having originated in China. It did originate there. Ordinary Americans—of all races and ethnicities—who harbor no ill will toward anyone don’t like to have the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights imply that that they are fueling the flames of xenophobic animosity.   We can’t blame them. It is insulting.

 

Our colleagues on the Commission close their statement by writing under the current circumstances no American should be “ostracized solely because of their race or national origin.” That is certainly sensible enough. We would add that Americans should not be ostracized on account of false accusations that their conduct has been racist, xenophobic and hateful. The promiscuous use of those terms needs to stop.

 

Gail Heriot & Peter N. Kirsanow, Members, U.S. Commission on Civil Rights

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Racists! 

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The BBC is reporting that a group of Mexican protesters at the border is demanding a Trump administration crackdown on people entering Mexico from the United States:

 

 

 

 

It's due to the China Virus of course, but still funny.

 

 

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The BBC is reporting that a group of Mexican protesters at the border is demanding a Trump administration crackdown on people entering Mexico from the United States:

 

 

 

 

It's due to the China Virus of course, but still funny.

 

 

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They should build a wall.

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2 hours ago, 3rdnlng said:

And get the U.S. to pay for it?

 

BTW people, I've been thinking about getting a caravan started up to go to Mexico. Anybody up for it?

 

So long as they accept my bullschiff claim of persecution, and give me a free ride through life. Also, they must all speak English to me, because I can't be bothered to learn Spanish.

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So long as they accept my bullschiff claim of persecution, and give me a free ride through life. Also, they must all speak English to me, because I can't be bothered to learn Spanish.

Just remember "For English press 2."

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Donald Trump Responds to Illegals Not Getting Stimulus Checks: ‘They Came in Illegally’

by Charlie Spiering

 

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President Donald Trump was asked by a reporter on Wednesday about “undocumented” immigrants not getting a stimulus check from the government as part of the coronavirus economic rescue package.“Well, you know, you are saying undocumented, meaning they came in illegally,” Trump said. “A lot of people would say that we have a lot of citizens right now that won’t be working, so what are you going to do?”Trump said he felt bad about the situation for illegal immigrants during a tough economic period.“It’s a very sad question, I must be honest with you, but they came in illegally 

 

 

 

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04/10/20: Memorandum on Visa Sanctions

 

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By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered as follows:

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In recognizing the public health risk, I noted that on March 11, 2020, the World Health Organization announced that the COVID-19 (the disease caused by SARS-CoV-2) outbreak can be characterized as a pandemic.  Countries that deny or unreasonably delay the acceptance of their citizens, subjects, nationals, or residents from the United States during the ongoing pandemic caused by SARS-CoV-2 create unacceptable public health risks for Americans.  The United States must be able to effectuate the repatriation of foreign nationals who violate the laws of the United States.

Sec. 2.  Visa Sanctions.  (a)  The Secretary of Homeland Security shall notify the Secretary of State, pursuant to section 243(d) of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1253(d), if any government of a foreign country denies or unreasonably delays the acceptance of aliens who are citizens, subjects, nationals, or residents of that country after being asked to accept those aliens, and if such denial or delay is impeding operations of the Department of Homeland Security necessary to respond to the ongoing pandemic caused by SARS-CoV-2.

(b)  Upon receipt of a notification described in subsection (a) of this section, the Secretary of State shall as expeditiously as possible, but no later than 7 days after receipt, adopt and initiate a plan to impose the visa sanctions provided for in section 243(d) of the INA.  Nothing in this subsection shall be construed to alter or limit the authority of the Secretary of State to make exceptions consistent with the foreign policy interests of the United States.

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This memorandum shall cease to apply on December 31, 2020, unless extended.

 

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15 hours ago, Hedge said:

This is legal immigration, so a bit off topic from the thread premise.

 

 

 

 

The president made the announcement to stop bringing in new people because the U.S. and world economies are cratering. And a historic number of people are now without jobs because of the virus.

 

Trump is going all-in with the American people on this announcement.

 

Well, this is one way that President Trump will get Nancy Pelosi back to Washington, D.C.

 

We'll bet that somehow the Left will label this as racist.

 

Let them try.

 

 

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Buried deep in the underbelly of a USA Today story from April 13 is a stunning statistic.

 

“About 8 in 10 support drastic steps on immigration: imposing mandatory quarantines for people who have traveled to any other country and temporarily stopping immigration from all other countries,” according to a poll by Ipsos and USA Today.

 

https://nationalfile.com/usa-today-poll-80-of-americans-support-total-immigration-halt/

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Divided Supreme Court rules for Trump administration in requiring immigrant's removal
 

The U.S. Supreme Court on Thursday upheld a lower court's decision that an immigrant with lawful permanent resident status cannot fight deportation due to a previous offense, even though that crime was not grounds for his removal.
 

In a 5-4 ruling with conservative justices on one side and liberals on the other, the court ruled for the Trump administration in holding that the statute in question, as drafted by Congress, requires deportation in the case of Andre Barton, even though the assault offenses that prevent him from appealing were not enough to deport him in the first place.
 

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Divided Supreme Court rules for Trump administration in requiring immigrant's removal
 

The U.S. Supreme Court on Thursday upheld a lower court's decision that an immigrant with lawful permanent resident status cannot fight deportation due to a previous offense, even though that crime was not grounds for his removal.
 

In a 5-4 ruling with conservative justices on one side and liberals on the other, the court ruled for the Trump administration in holding that the statute in question, as drafted by Congress, requires deportation in the case of Andre Barton, even though the assault offenses that prevent him from appealing were not enough to deport him in the first place.
 

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Congress made a choice, however, to authorize removal of noncitizens— even lawful permanent residents—who have committed certain serious crimes. And Congress also made a choice to categorically preclude cancellation of removal for noncitizens who have substantial criminal records. Congress may of course amend the law at any time. In the meantime, the Court is constrained to apply the law as enacted by Congress.

 

Huh, how about that. Courts that actually uphold the laws as passed by the political branches, instead of rewriting the laws to suit their whims, like Sotomayor was arguing for in her dissent.

 

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The particular dispute between the two sides of the court dealt with the language of the statute, which says a defendant cannot have their deportation canceled if they had committed "an offense referred to in section 1182(a)(2) of this title that renders the alien inadmissible to the United States under section 1182(a)(2) of this title or removable from the United States under section 1227(a)(2) or 1227(a)(4) of this title."

 

The conservative majority took this to mean that Congress was including both offenses that would render someone inadmissible as well as those that would make them removable, meaning that because aggravated assault would leave a person inadmissible, it triggers the provision keeping Barton from having his deportation canceled.

 

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Justice Sonia Sotomayor's dissent, on the other hand, argued that Congress was referring to two separate types of situations...

 

Uh, the statutory language in that blurb is pretty clear. If you commit a prior offense that makes you inadmissible or you commit a prior offense that makes you deportable, AND you commit a later offense that triggers deportation proceedings, then you can't appeal.

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Mexico is sending 'em back too:
 

On Sunday, Mexico's National Institute of Migration (INM) announced the repatriation of 3,653 Central American migrants. The measure comes after growing concern over Covid-19 spreading in INM detention facilities throughout Mexico.
 

Mexico recently has faced issues attempting to deport Central American citizens back to their home countries. Guatemala, Honduras, and El Salvador closed their borders to citizens and aliens.
 

The INM said: "In the face of the health emergency caused by Covid-19, the Ministry of the Interior, the National Institute of Migration (INM), acts responsibly and safeguards the integrity of the population in the context of migration by seeking to fully guarantee their human rights."
 

Guatemalan nationals were sent back by bus and Honduran and Salvadoran migrants were transported by aircraft to their countries of origin. The International Organization for Migrants administered the flight arrangements to Central America.
 

In March, the INM had 3,579 foreign nationals housed throughout its 65 detention facilities and shelters. As of Sunday, the number had decreased to 106 migrants — a 97 percent reduction in the detained migrant population.
 

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Mexico is sending 'em back too:
 

On Sunday, Mexico's National Institute of Migration (INM) announced the repatriation of 3,653 Central American migrants. The measure comes after growing concern over Covid-19 spreading in INM detention facilities throughout Mexico.
 

Mexico recently has faced issues attempting to deport Central American citizens back to their home countries. Guatemala, Honduras, and El Salvador closed their borders to citizens and aliens.
 

The INM said: "In the face of the health emergency caused by Covid-19, the Ministry of the Interior, the National Institute of Migration (INM), acts responsibly and safeguards the integrity of the population in the context of migration by seeking to fully guarantee their human rights."
 

Guatemalan nationals were sent back by bus and Honduran and Salvadoran migrants were transported by aircraft to their countries of origin. The International Organization for Migrants administered the flight arrangements to Central America.
 

In March, the INM had 3,579 foreign nationals housed throughout its 65 detention facilities and shelters. As of Sunday, the number had decreased to 106 migrants — a 97 percent reduction in the detained migrant population.
 

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Racists.

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On 5/13/2020 at 3:33 PM, Buffalo_Gal said:

 


Trump is on Maria Bartiromo this morning (recorded interview) and said that there will be 500 miles of new wall by early next year. This is in addition to rebuilding the old wall.

(me) There are 1,954 miles of border, 580 miles of existing wall (in 2016), adding 500 more miles would be 1080 miles. This 2019 article is very anti-Trump, but it lists the natural barriers and the areas that would be covered by troops instead of walls. 

 

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Gonna end up in front of the SC.

Appeals court OKs Trump plan to end protected immigration status for 4 countries
 

In 2-1 ruling, 9th Circuit says evidence lacking that Trump’s ‘offensive and disparaging’ comments about immigrants impacted decisions
 

A federal appeals court has effectively green-lighted the Trump administration’s plan to expel more than 300,000 undocumented immigrants from El Salvador, Nicaragua and Sudan from the U.S. by ending the “temporary protected status” they have enjoyed for as long as two decades.
 

A 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals panel ruled, 2-1, Monday that a federal judge in San Francisco erred in 2018 when he blocked the administration’s move to terminate the deportation protections granted to nationals of four countries because of natural disasters, wars or other upheavals in their homelands.
 

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