PromoTheRobot Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 To bring it back to Bucky's main argument - it's not a choice between EJ & Cassel. It's a choice between Cassel & Josh Johnson. How many NFL teams have a stud at #3 QB. Face it, any team down to QB #3 is boned anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 How many NFL teams have a stud at #3 QB. Face it, any team down to QB #3 is boned anyway. None. I pointed out earlier, less than half of NFL teams carry a 3rd QB and the vast majority of them are developmental player. The only QB that may be comparable to keeping a "Cassel" type QB is Charlie Whitehurst in Tennessee. That's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 How many NFL teams have a stud at #3 QB. Face it, any team down to QB #3 is boned anyway. We did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 When you go into a season with a quarterback that's barely played in four years, another who has been mediocre while a Bill and is injury prone, and a third quarterback with tons of experience and who's been to the Pro Bowl, you let logic dictate unless you're somewhat suicidal or convinced that preseason performance makes regular season performance a given. Cassel should have been kept around as an insurance policy. If you needed a roster spot, get rid of your kicking specialist who can't consistently get the ball deep into the end zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 I dont know whats up with Cassel, but there was probably more going on behind the scenes than meets the eye. I wonder if they had kind of an agreement when he re-signed here that if there was an appealing spot for him and a trade was to be had then Whaley would do right by him? I think they got rid of Cassel because he had fussy clauses in his last contract that gave him bonus money if he reached them. Why the hell else did both he and TT start the Colts game? Pandering to that kind of crap would be a real distraction if it lasted very long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 How many NFL teams have a stud at #3 QB. Face it, any team down to QB #3 is boned anyway. And again that's not the point. Teams that have major questions at QB tend to have 3 mediocre QBs. Teams that have an ironman as a starter can roll the dice on 2 QBs on a roster. When Bills traded Cassel, they knew TT was nursing an ankle injury and EJ's doesn't have an injury-free history. It was very risky to give up Cassel for basically nothing, because the odds of Bills playing their #3 QB were relatively high, and got much higher this week. This is the type of risk that a cash strapped rebuilding team takes. It's not the type of risk that a team which needs every win possible to make the playoffs. That's why Cowboys immediately jumped on Cassel, when they could have easily signed a Josh Johnson off the street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 When you go into a season with a quarterback that's barely played in four years, another who has been mediocre while a Bill and is injury prone, and a third quarterback with tons of experience and who's been to the Pro Bowl, you let logic dictate unless you're somewhat suicidal or convinced that preseason performance makes regular season performance a given. Cassel should have been kept around as an insurance policy. If you needed a roster spot, get rid of your kicking specialist who can't consistently get the ball deep into the end zone. You said it better than I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 When you go into a season with a quarterback that's barely played in four years, another who has been mediocre while a Bill and is injury prone, and a third quarterback with tons of experience and who's been to the Pro Bowl, you let logic dictate unless you're somewhat suicidal or convinced that preseason performance makes regular season performance a given. Cassel should have been kept around as an insurance policy. If you needed a roster spot, get rid of your kicking specialist who can't consistently get the ball deep into the end zone. Or the coaches and Whaley decided Cassel wasn't worth a roster spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 (edited) To bring it back to Bucky's main argument - it's not a choice between EJ & Cassel. It's a choice between Cassel & Josh Johnson. It's actually Cassel and a swap of 7ths vs Josh Johnson, a 5th rounder, and whoever we wouldn't have kept on the roster. Edited October 15, 2015 by BlueFire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastaJoe Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Or the coaches and Whaley decided Cassel wasn't worth a roster spot. Or they offered EJ to Dallas and they didn't want him, or what Dallas offered would embarrass Whaley after wasting a 1st round pick on EJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 It's actually Cassel and a swap of 7ths vs Josh Johnson, a 5th rounder, and whoever we wouldn't have kept on the roster. That 5th rounder won't be seen until 2017. The issue is the emergency QB in 2015, as the Bills are fighting for the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Guys, you can't have it all. We need $ to sign many of these guys so Cassel was a calculated liability. So was Fred Jackson. If there was no cap, then sure, I'd love to have them both. I applaud Whaley for doing everything he can to field a top team this year. Some have worked, and some have not. remember everyone bashing him in the draft for choosing Darby, not Miller, but K. Williams. Now look at these guys. Miller is developing and not many 3rd round Guards end up starting year 1. we though Darby was a mistake, but we didn't know McKelvin was nursing his injury. K. Williams given a plan to exit from Fred (who I love but he was 34) and Spiller. He's making the best decisions possible for this team. Now he's on record that we won't be so active in free agency next year as that is unsustainable, and work through the draft. It makes total sense for a multi-year plan. Now damn it Rex, keep going with a disciplined team continuing to bring down the penalties, play press on these quick release guys like Dalton, and blitz the crap out of the younger QB's. We get some of our talent back, and I'm not sure if we can beat the Bengals, but we can beat a bunch of the teams afterwards. I'm interested in seeing what happens with the Jets and Patsies. Can we beat these guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Guys, you can't have it all. We need $ to sign many of these guys so Cassel was a calculated liability. So was Fred Jackson. If there was no cap, then sure, I'd love to have them both. I applaud Whaley for doing everything he can to field a top team this year. Some have worked, and some have not. remember everyone bashing him in the draft for choosing Darby, not Miller, but K. Williams. Now look at these guys. Miller is developing and not many 3rd round Guards end up starting year 1. we though Darby was a mistake, but we didn't know McKelvin was nursing his injury. K. Williams given a plan to exit from Fred (who I love but he was 34) and Spiller. He's making the best decisions possible for this team. Now he's on record that we won't be so active in free agency next year as that is unsustainable, and work through the draft. It makes total sense for a multi-year plan. Now damn it Rex, keep going with a disciplined team continuing to bring down the penalties, play press on these quick release guys like Dalton, and blitz the crap out of the younger QB's. We get some of our talent back, and I'm not sure if we can beat the Bengals, but we can beat a bunch of the teams afterwards. I'm interested in seeing what happens with the Jets and Patsies. Can we beat these guys? They had already cut Cassel and resigned him at a much-reduced price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Guys, you can't have it all. We need $ to sign many of these guys so Cassel was a calculated liability. So was Fred Jackson. If there was no cap, then sure, I'd love to have them both. I applaud Whaley for doing everything he can to field a top team this year. Some have worked, and some have not. remember everyone bashing him in the draft for choosing Darby, not Miller, but K. Williams. Now look at these guys. Miller is developing and not many 3rd round Guards end up starting year 1. we though Darby was a mistake, but we didn't know McKelvin was nursing his injury. K. Williams given a plan to exit from Fred (who I love but he was 34) and Spiller. He's making the best decisions possible for this team. Now he's on record that we won't be so active in free agency next year as that is unsustainable, and work through the draft. It makes total sense for a multi-year plan. Now damn it Rex, keep going with a disciplined team continuing to bring down the penalties, play press on these quick release guys like Dalton, and blitz the crap out of the younger QB's. We get some of our talent back, and I'm not sure if we can beat the Bengals, but we can beat a bunch of the teams afterwards. I'm interested in seeing what happens with the Jets and Patsies. Can we beat these guys? We will see if trading Cassel for a late pick two years from now was the "best possible decision" I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Or the coaches and Whaley decided Cassel wasn't worth a roster spot. Or Whaley advised the coaches that Cassel wasn't worth a roster spot. And being a good soldier, Rex compromised with the GM on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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