BillsFan-4-Ever Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Ok, I didn't take it that way. Whaley knows what he's doing and seems to have the freedom to do what he wants. He has a good staff and we are finally drafting well just like the Polian days. NO. sometimes tone is mistaken here. just covering all bases Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 solid cap management, great coaching and great drafting. If taylor keeps up this play and whaley keeps nailing draft picks we have a perennial winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 I'm more concerned about losing Harvin, Incognito right now. I don't even want to think about what happens if Tyrod Taylor becomes the next Russell Wilson play, and pay. http://www.buffalorumblings.com/bills-news-notes/2015/3/18/8236345/tyrod-taylor-contract-details-buffalo-bills-qb-nfl-free-agency-2015 We're gonna have some really tough choices to make if he's successful. I mean, it'll be awesome to be in a position to make those choices for once, but still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzfan37 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 A new challenge is going to be keeping talent and replacing talent that we lose. I am not saying we are going to lose a lot of guys, But I would say it will be hard to keep all of them. I wasn't expecting Incognito to play so well. I thought he would be just a one year player for us. Looks like we will want to re-sign him now too, which is just another person to add to our list for the offseason. It will be pretty difficult to keep bradham, harvin, incognito, Glenn, etc know that we also have too look down the road in re-signing Gilmore and possibly a franchise QB. A lot of it will depend on how much the cap goes up. If it goes up a good amount, then maybe with some creativity we can keep our stars mainly intact I don't think we need to re-sign Incognito. Yes, he's been a nice player, but he's 35. Perhaps he'd be willing to stay for a workable salary, but I don't think we should overpay for him - and...I think he will want to take a shot at testing the market and getting one more pay day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevWarRifleman Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Close? Hardly. With only five "Williams" on the team, he's at least three short. Venus & Serena are out there. It started with Buddy and it's being tied up nicely with Doug Whaley. This team has oodles of talent, we have a 2nd round pick as the AFC Defensive Rookie of the Month and a 5th round running back running lights out and a 3rd rounder as our starting RG. You can nit-pick all you want, but this team is better than it has been in a long, long, long time. Now with ownership that will actually pay to retain talent, you can see things are looking up. + 1 on that, baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 I wonder who he was referring to when he said some think he's rogue? Max Factor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 (edited) I will always remain skeptical until I see consistency on the field. Too many ups in recent years were inevitably followed by disappointing downs. I'm encouraged so far, but reluctant to get too excited just yet. You can't tell there's something different going on? Yeah, this is no Trent Edwards type start. This team has been accruing talent for a few years, it just needed a QB to actually make the leap. There is way more talent on this team than any of the past teams that had a decent start. And the wins are solid, not 6-3 victories over Cleveland. Just look at those old rosters. The receivers on those teams were totally subpar, let alone the QB's. Some of the defenses were pretty good, but had glaring holes. This defense is just loaded. Edited October 2, 2015 by HoF Watkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 You can't tell there's something different going on? The thought has been there previously and the organization came crashing down. Yes, this time it does seem different but it is all still very new. Also, it's really tough when your primary rival has a coach and QB who play lights out and to help themselves will overlook and bend rules. The Bills have certainly made themselves relevant again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Meh -- what fun is that? Get excited while you can. Of course I'm excited......just not *too* excited, yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Our future looks tremendous. Now that most likely QB is not a major need, what are our needs for draft and FA next year? Safety? Tackle? Nickel CB? We're looking really good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 (edited) Of course I'm excited......just not *too* excited, yet. what exactly defines the difference Premature ejaculation ? I can t believe i just wrote that Edited October 2, 2015 by 3rdand12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 I don't think we need to re-sign Incognito. Yes, he's been a nice player, but he's 35. Perhaps he'd be willing to stay for a workable salary, but I don't think we should overpay for him - and...I think he will want to take a shot at testing the market and getting one more pay day. He's 32 not 35. Look it up on wikipedia with his DOB. He is worth a solid contract, not a windfall. He's the best interior lineman on our team right now. I don't see Harvin even with a good year getting alot of looks aside of us so we should be able to resign him as we did this year. I believe we should get a 16 game TV contract from 8 on a network for Thursday night football so we'll have an increase in the cap as all of you know the players get I believe 52% of the proceeds in cap. It will be tight, but we should be able to keep most. If El Pegul gets a playoff team with sold out games every week, he'll keep spending. He loves it as he can always make more money drilling another hole as he states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 I would like to see better OL play.....but I really like what Whaley has done with the team. I am trying to figure out what is going on with Glenn........has he reached his ceiling and is now regressing? 2 years ago NOBODY gets by this guy or even moves him off the line.....and was a beast in the run game. Seantrel Henderson? The guy is hurt every game. I dont know if Kujo has reached his ceiling......I would like to think he can get better then this John Miller is a rook and is playing like a rook......and I think he is gonna be a good one Cog looks like we need to start talking to him about a contract extention.....NOW Then there are the linebackers.... I want to see what we have in a couple of the young LB's......especially Seward......there is a LB or two that are playing ST's that I think are capable of more I think we need to continue to work on our OL in the draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Whaley talks about drafting for players to sit and learn for awhile, and I don't see that as feasible at all unless you hit on every draft pick. Then considering the turnover of players each team goes through every year. John in the post above mentions the offensive line, and it looks only partially built from my view. I don't know if Kouandjio will even ever become a valid starter out of a 2nd round pick, and teams really can't wait 2-3 years to see if they become a decent starter. This is the second year for Kujo already. This last off season Whaley went after a top free agent OT & OG, and missed out on both. Should the team have signed those two then I think the team would be a lot more finished then it is. Then if Glenn or Incognito isn't resigned, good lord! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Our future looks tremendous. Now that most likely QB is not a major need, what are our needs for draft and FA next year? Safety? Tackle? Nickel CB? We're looking really good. Backup DE, CB (if McKelvin gets cut next year), backup ILB, Kicker (someone who can handle kickoffs and field goals), and OL depth. Pretty nice that almost every need is for depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Backup DE, CB (if McKelvin gets cut next year), backup ILB, Kicker (someone who can handle kickoffs and field goals), and OL depth. Pretty nice that almost every need is for depth. Wouldn't mind a FS in the first round to replace Graham who's getting old and out of position. Other than that, BPA all the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Wouldn't mind a FS in the first round to replace Graham who's getting old and out of position. Other than that, BPA all the way. Dont know where you are coming from with that.....Graham def is not out of position actually could hold that position down for a while Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Wouldn't mind a FS in the first round to replace Graham who's getting old and out of position. Other than that, BPA all the way. Graham is neither old nor out of position and is playing very well at the position he should be in now. A lot of good CBs get switched to S after a few years. Not to mention that his skill set fits safety very well. Where does that come from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Graham is neither old nor out of position and is playing very well at the position he should be in now. A lot of good CBs get switched to S after a few years. Not to mention that his skill set fits safety very well. Where does that come from? He's 30 and is a converted CB. Not a lot of years left. And he's only played what, 2 NFL games at FS. Nothing wrong with getting a good young player who's natural position is FS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 He's 30 and is a converted CB. Not a lot of years left. And he's only played what, 2 NFL games at FS. Nothing wrong with getting a good young player who's natural position is FS. So he can play 2-3 years at a high quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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