D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 They think the Colts outplayed us yesterday, giving them the number 11 overall performance rating yesterday. Meanwhile, the Bills were saddled with a MINUS 3.5 overall rating, driven mainly by a 22nd ranked DEFENSIVE performance of MINUS 3.2! Oh and Tyrod Taylor was a MINUS 1 when running the ball? Disclaimer: I am not a fan of PFF, my son has a subscription. Go Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Good. Let them look down their noses at the Bills. I prefer being the underdog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 They think the Colts outplayed us yesterday, giving them the number 11 overall performance rating yesterday. Meanwhile, the Bills were saddled with a MINUS 3.5 overall rating, driven mainly by a 22nd ranked DEFENSIVE performance of MINUS 3.2! Oh and Tyrod Taylor was a MINUS 1 when running the ball? Disclaimer: I am not a fan of PFF, my son has a subscription. Go Bills. Brilliant. More made up nonsense from PFF. "We watch every play" I am sure you do.... question is do you have any idea what you are watching? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice_32 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) Heath Evans and Tony Gonzales picked us to go to the superbowl. PFF will be late to the party. Edited September 14, 2015 by Juice_32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 They think the Colts outplayed us yesterday, giving them the number 11 overall performance rating yesterday. Meanwhile, the Bills were saddled with a MINUS 3.5 overall rating, driven mainly by a 22nd ranked DEFENSIVE performance of MINUS 3.2! Oh and Tyrod Taylor was a MINUS 1 when running the ball? Disclaimer: I am not a fan of PFF, my son has a subscription. Go Bills. I do not have a PFF subscription and know little about them. Can anyone who does explain this? I mean, the bottom line is, the Colts LOST. Do you think Luck feels all warm and fuzzy thinking he "outplayed us"? Is this something like the folks who were posting about a "moral defeat" after we beat NE last season in the last game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Good Advanced analysis will run things back over and over again. Not sure how good PFF is. I don't see reason to panic if I am the Colts. The Colts lost to a team with a lot of talent away. They had some offensive success against a good defense. The Colts D would be a concern but I think the Bills offense is better than some give credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share Posted September 14, 2015 I do not have a PFF subscription and know little about them. Can anyone who does explain this? I mean, the bottom line is, the Colts LOST. Do you think Luck feels all warm and fuzzy thinking he "outplayed us"? Is this something like the folks who were posting about a "moral defeat" after we beat NE last season in the last game? They claim to watch every play and evaluate it technically. Each player is given a grade on every play from -2 to +2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I don't really follow PFF at all, but how do they come about those metrics? I mean anyone who actually watched the game would've realized that we dominated the colts for 80% of that game. The colts put up some points up at the end but it was clear that the Bills were just trying to play it safe at that point and secure the win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wing Man Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Wow. Time for a new equation. This one is missing the whole point. How do you rate a defense with a +3 turnover ratio as being weak? This is the sort of thing that gives legitimate analytics a bad name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 It's very possible that his/their scores went from negative to positive over the course of the 3rd/4th quarter when the Bills switched to a more conservative system to kill the clock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share Posted September 14, 2015 They seemed to give the penalties against the defense undue weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 What else is new? That site just makes things up as they go along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share Posted September 14, 2015 Wow. Time for a new equation. This one is missing the whole point. How do you rate a defense with a +3 turnover ratio as being weak? This is the sort of thing that gives legitimate analytics a bad name. Agreed! What else is new? That site just makes things up as they go along. My sons' subscription runs out Oct 1 and will not be renewed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 They can use whatever formula they want as long as the formula we are using equals W's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 You could technically have a negative team score on a TD pass/run, which is fair enough. PFF are like me, they seem to care as much (if not more) about the process as they do about the end result. If an OL blows their block and the QB extends and scores with arm or legs, you still have to grade the guy that screwed up accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 The stat gurus try. ESPN tries with their QBR rating. But no one has yet being able to boil football down to truly meaningful numbers beyond W-L. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Good Advanced analysis will run things back over and over again. Not sure how good PFF is. I don't see reason to panic if I am the Colts. The Colts lost to a team with a lot of talent away. They had some offensive success against a good defense. The Colts D would be a concern but I think the Bills offense is better than some give credit. I thought the Colts O did a good job against our D. But our D is relentless, and we have shut down Manning, Rodgers and now Luck. (really only "elite" guy we need to own is Brady). Will be interesting to see how the Colts do w/o Hilton for a couple of weeks, but D. Montcrief (sp) looks ready to step up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ko12010 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 They think the Colts outplayed us yesterday, giving them the number 11 overall performance rating yesterday. Meanwhile, the Bills were saddled with a MINUS 3.5 overall rating, driven mainly by a 22nd ranked DEFENSIVE performance of MINUS 3.2! Oh and Tyrod Taylor was a MINUS 1 when running the ball? Disclaimer: I am not a fan of PFF, my son has a subscription. Go Bills. I don't know much about how these ratings/rankings are created, but...how is this possible considering we essentially controlled the whole game and held Luck to a 63 passer rating? Tyrod had a 123 I believe, and in basically every category we came out on top. I'm honestly just curious. Is there a formula or something, or is this people reviewing tape and making ratings on each individual? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Congrats to the Colts for securing PFF's 11th best grade for opening weekend (so far). Congrats to PFF for ranking them that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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