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NoSaint Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Escape ability, pocket presence, running ability (read option), accuracy, intelligence, mechanics. I see a night and day difference in their upside especially in terms of versatitly and dynamic ability in which he can bring to Romans offense. It isn't even close for me. as i said, we look at "upside" differently. EJ is very mobile, EJ is big enough to stand in and make plays, EJ is very intelligent, when EJ can get his mechanics down hes very accurate. that you include mechanics in a list of upside, is probably the prime difference. i look at upside as "if he can clean up this issue and that issue what could he be...." if EJ can clean up his mechanics, and just a bit on his presence (goes hand in hand) -- he could do everything that tyrod does, plus be bigger, stronger, etc.... you cant learn to be bigger/faster, so those are the "upside attributes" to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsForever Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 (edited) as i said, we look at "upside" differently. EJ is very mobile, EJ is big enough to stand in and make plays, EJ is very intelligent, when EJ can get his mechanics down hes very accurate. that you include mechanics in a list of upside, is probably the prime difference. i look at upside as "if he can clean up this issue and that issue what could he be...." if EJ can clean up his mechanics, and just a bit on his presence (goes hand in hand) -- he could do everything that tyrod does, plus be bigger, stronger, etc.... you cant learn to be bigger/faster, so those are the "upside attributes" to me. The BIG and STRONG and large hands certainly are upside attritubes but i stray away from the old school front office mentality. They are esentially upside traits of a QB that I consider at the bottom when evaluating Cassell, Tyrod and Manuel for who starts at QB in 2015. Edited August 21, 2015 by BuffaloBillsForever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 @NFL Should Tyrod Taylor be the @buffalobills' starting QB: #TyStarts or #TySits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 The BIG and STRONG, large hands certainly are upside attritubes but i stray away from the old school front office mentality. They are esentially traits of a QB what I consider at the bottom when evaluating Cassell, Tyrod and Manuel for who starts at QB in 2015. again, who starts week 1, and who has the most upside are two different questions in my book. they arent in yours. wed just be talking past each other if we continue on with that debate i think. ill come to your end though and say that in who has the most potential week 1 - i still think its closer than you give credit for, but i get where your coming from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DisplacedBillsFan Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 He gives you those magical play, and possibly strings it together for a full game every now and then, but overall, just not starting QB material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsForever Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 (edited) again, who starts week 1, and who has the most upside are two different questions in my book. they arent in yours. wed just be talking past each other if we continue on with that debate i think. ill come to your end though and say that in who has the most potential week 1 - i still think its closer than you give credit for, but i get where your coming from. That was the point I was making against previous. IMO that is old fashioned thinking and what I am concerned about how the coaching staff is going to look at the QB position."Vetrin presents", "can manage an offense", "minimizes mistakes" > upside. Edited August 21, 2015 by BuffaloBillsForever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 I think Tyrod has great leadership skills, and tons of good electrifying energy. Also brings a lot of excitement to the game. That being said I prefer a true pocket passer, I believe that that is what is needed to succeed in the pro's. I think Tyrod could be figured out by 4-6 weeks of starting and will have to beat defenses with his arm. And I think that's the key for him. And also why I've been behind EJ for so long. I feel that Tyrod has a strong chance at being franchise if he has the arm, I'm voting 50% because I'm not sure he's got the arm, but I personally haven't seen enough of him to make that determination. If Tyrod gets the starting nod, I'm behind Rex's decision 100%, for probably this season and next. If Tyrod busts after next season as starter, I'll be getting mad at Rex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 I still think he runs too quickly ,on some plays. I saw a open player for a td ,maybe Hogan on that scramble sack. I`d like to see his deep ball accuracy. He will free up the run game . I would like to see some red zone throws. I really don`t know what Rex is thinking. I really think E.J. has stepped up his play. He`s much better in the pocket and his accuracy shows improvement.What ever they decide will be fine with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonprophet Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Time to gamble and go with EJ and Taylor. They will lose games with mistakes but that is the only way to develop them. Even in the regular season , each play a half ? Sure, let's risk injuries to both of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 I'm encouraged by Tyrod's performance thus far through two preseason games. Let's hope he will continue to progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 This poll is biased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 He was inept in the red zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 He was inept in the red zone. Might have been different with a full arsenal out there with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 I'm confident that Greg Roman is a "franchise" OC....so, I'm confident in both of our young QBs to be solid, but not "franchise" guys in 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Might have been different with a full arsenal out there with him. Browns were missing starters too, that has to be taken into context. Taylor looked decent last night, but lets see if he can do it consistently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 21, 2015 Author Share Posted August 21, 2015 Might have been different with a full arsenal out there with him. ...or even one bullet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 If he starts there's no way he finishes the year. He will get injured or fizzle out once teams figure out that he runs wide every time on his bootleg. He adds excitement but I don't think it's anything long term so let's keep in mind that QB's like this may have some early success but it's never for very long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 He was inept in the red zone. I think it may have sealed the deal for me, if he had put points up. I want to see EJ start in game 3. It makes sense, even if only to keep the QB intentions hidden from the Colts/media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 21, 2015 Author Share Posted August 21, 2015 (edited) This poll is biased. I'm sure that is coming though. Edited August 21, 2015 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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