DC Tom Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 How badly has Brady's team mismanaged this? Well...Wells and the NFL had no right to Brady's phone. The most that they could do was ask, and he was within his rights saying "no." And, in fact, he could have used that in the appeal of his suspension, to argue that he was being punished for non-cooperation when he was well within his rights to not cooperate. He's also within his rights to destroy the phone...because it's his phone, and he has no responsibility to preserve it for any reason. Except his dumbass representatives, and the NFLPA, announce their intent to seek redress in court if the suspension isn't overturned. THAT means he had a reasonable expectation of the phone and its contents being evidence in a case. So NOW, he's destroying evidence. Which means he tanked not only his appeal, but his court case too. Brilliant strategy. How does this dumbass even win football games? (Oh, that's right. He cheats.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 image.jpg My first thought: Take it to court, give the NFL subpoena power, implicate Belichick >>>>> then Brady, Belichick and Pete Rose can form thier own little Hall together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted July 28, 2015 Author Share Posted July 28, 2015 @RapSheet: The @NFLPAs federal court filing on behalf of Tom Brady is slated to come tomorrow. Yes, itll be filed in Minnesota. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 How badly has Brady's team mismanaged this? Well...Wells and the NFL had no right to Brady's phone. The most that they could do was ask, and he was within his rights saying "no." And, in fact, he could have used that in the appeal of his suspension, to argue that he was being punished for non-cooperation when he was well within his rights to not cooperate. He's also within his rights to destroy the phone...because it's his phone, and he has no responsibility to preserve it for any reason. Except his dumbass representatives, and the NFLPA, announce their intent to seek redress in court if the suspension isn't overturned. THAT means he had a reasonable expectation of the phone and its contents being evidence in a case. So NOW, he's destroying evidence. Which means he tanked not only his appeal, but his court case too. Brilliant strategy. How does this dumbass even win football games? (Oh, that's right. He cheats.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 @RapSheet: The @NFLPAs federal court filing on behalf of Tom Brady is slated to come tomorrow. Yes, itll be filed in Minnesota. Makes sense from the NFLPA's perspective. This is lawyering 101. Whether or not the NFL's action will be merged with the NFLPA's (and critically, the venue of said action) remains to be seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted July 28, 2015 Author Share Posted July 28, 2015 @AlbertBreer: "The NFLPA will appeal this outrageous decision on behalf of Tom Brady." https://t.co/1dO8ArtI0l Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 This is a good explanation: http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/07/27/tom-brady-nflpa-deflategate-suspension-federal-court It is questionable and biased for same reason Br*dy is claiming: It is by: Michael McCann is a Massachusetts attorney and the founding director of the Sports and Entertainment Law Institute at the University of New Hampshire School of Law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 @AlbertBreer: "The NFLPA will appeal this outrageous decision on behalf of Tom Brady." https://t.co/1dO8ArtI0l Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Unbelievable. One game. One game. He would have come back rested for the Bills and made another championship run. Goddell bent over backwards trying to make it go smooth. This was just debunked, no agreement was close according to Wingo. But if it were true, wouldn't surprise me in the least. It is questionable and biased for same reason Br*dy is claiming: It is by: Michael McCann is a Massachusetts attorney and the founding director of the Sports and Entertainment Law Institute at the University of New Hampshire School of Law. McCann is the man. Go to for sports/law info. He was great during the Hernandez case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 I am probably close to 200 a day. Now we know where half your posts come in a day, where do other half come from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumbalaya Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Brady had someone deflate the balls. He had someone destroy his phone. Doesn't he do anything himself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 This is a good Forbes article of his odds of winning in court. http://www.forbes.com/sites/darrenheitner/2015/07/28/odds-are-stacked-against-tom-brady-successfully-suing-the-nfl/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Absolutely, the right decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 It is questionable and biased for same reason Br*dy is claiming: It is by: Michael McCann is a Massachusetts attorney and the founding director of the Sports and Entertainment Law Institute at the University of New Hampshire School of Law. It's actually pretty well balanced and shows the arguments Brady would use. It also includes the league's trump card: "we absolutely have the right. You union boys saw to that when you negotiated last time. In fact, you don't even need a "fair" arbiter for your appeal, since it's explicitly mentioned elsewhere and not here. You let Rodger be judge jury and executioner because you wanted a little more money. Buh bye!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Brady had someone deflate the balls. He had someone destroy his phone. Doesn't he do anything himself? He calls his own roughing penalties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 This is a good Forbes article of his odds of winning in court. http://www.forbes.com/sites/darrenheitner/2015/07/28/odds-are-stacked-against-tom-brady-successfully-suing-the-nfl/ Our good friend from The Aud Club over at SabreSpace, Offsides Number 76, made the same arguments upthread. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 @AlbertBreer: "The NFLPA will appeal this outrageous decision on behalf of Tom Brady." https://t.co/1dO8ArtI0l "The suspension is unreasonable because the league never told the players they couldn't cheat!" Really? Good luck with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 This is a good Forbes article of his odds of winning in court. http://www.forbes.com/sites/darrenheitner/2015/07/28/odds-are-stacked-against-tom-brady-successfully-suing-the-nfl/ Hey I just was thrilled by one subheading: "The unlikely injunction" If Brady doesn't get an injunction, I really doubt that court proceedings are finished by Week 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandemonium Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 He calls his own roughing penalties. Bet he won't anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCD Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Court case goes on through the Winter, Tom wins the Super Bowl again, immediately announces retirement. Court case ends, no suspension incurred. Whats better? A suspension and a few more years of Brady, or never seeing him again but he leaves with an officially untarnished legacy?? PollTime! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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