Deranged Rhino Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Isn't it great that Bills fans, whether Flutie or Johnson supporters, EJ lovers or haters, or Fred Jackson or Tashard Choice guys, can all agree that Marrone sucks. Amen. Yet he had many supporters when he was brought over from his PInstripe Bowl powerhouse team...... I know. It's shocking that people have the gall to change their minds as the information changes! It's CRAZY PANTS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 I hate to have to agree with WEO and FC but they are correct. If anyone is going to be "instilling confidence" in one of our young Quarterbacks it isn't going to be Rex Ryan. His track record tells us he has failed to develop two young Quarterbacks who were quite highly rated coming out of college. If someone does get EJ in a better place mentally that leads to improved performance my money is on Roman not Ryan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 I hate to have to agree with WEO and FC but they are correct. If anyone is going to be "instilling confidence" in one of our young Quarterbacks it isn't going to be Rex Ryan. His track record tells us he has failed to develop two young Quarterbacks who were quite highly rated coming out of college. If someone does get EJ in a better place mentally that leads to improved performance my money is on Roman not Ryan. In that scenario, which I don't disagree with, Ryan gets no credit for bringing in a guy who does work well with young QBs? I mean, isn't that what you want from a coach? A guy who's going not just going to admit areas where he's weak, but make moves to address those weaknesses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 He benched Geno Smith twice in October last year, after singing Vick to the roster in the offseason after Smith's rookie year. Then he benched Vick in November and went back to Smith. Rex also benched Snachez several times--then he brought in Drew Stanton...then Tebow...to challenge Sanchez. Yeah, Rex is well known for instilling confidence in his young QBs. I know you understand the point I was making but merely relish your self-appointed role as devil's advocate on the board. Kudos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 In that scenario, which I don't disagree with, Ryan gets no credit for bringing in a guy who does work well with young QBs? I mean, isn't that what you want from a coach? A guy who's going not just going to admit areas where he's weak, but make moves to address those weaknesses? Yes he does. The same way Marrone gets credit for the Pettine and Schwartz hires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Yes he does. The same way Marrone gets credit for the Pettine and Schwartz hires. Just making sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 In that scenario, which I don't disagree with, Ryan gets no credit for bringing in a guy who does work well with young QBs? I mean, isn't that what you want from a coach? A guy who's going not just going to admit areas where he's weak, but make moves to address those weaknesses? Indeed, seems he did ok with Smith and Kaepernick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 He benched Geno Smith twice in October last year, after singing Vick to the roster in the offseason after Smith's rookie year. Then he benched Vick in November and went back to Smith. Rex also benched Snachez several times--then he brought in Drew Stanton...then Tebow...to challenge Sanchez. Yeah, Rex is well known for instilling confidence in his young QBs. Rex didn't bring those guys in. He hated Tebow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Amen. I know. It's shocking that people have the gall to change their minds as the information changes! It's CRAZY PANTS! What info changed about Marrone? He was a suspect hire on day 1 for many reason listed by lots of posters here back then. It's shocking that people took 2 seasons, this offseason and an internet article to realize this. I know you understand the point I was making but merely relish your self-appointed role as devil's advocate on the board. Kudos. Come on---your point was being made specifically in a thread about young or rookie QBs! So no, I don't understand why you would say that about Rex because I think it's the opposite of what actually is his habit with QBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Rex didn't bring those guys in. He hated Tebow. Who threw Greg McElroy in the 4th quarter of a 7-0 game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted July 16, 2015 Author Share Posted July 16, 2015 I thought I remember Rex saying he didn't have authority on when to bench Geno or Vick last year, or control over personnel and what other QBs were brought in, and that he was actually criticized for sticking too much with Sanchez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 What info changed about Marrone? He was a suspect hire on day 1 for many reason listed by lots of posters here back then. It's shocking that people took 2 seasons, this offseason and an internet article to realize this. You like to jump to a lot of conclusions... No denying there were many (including me) that questioned his hire from day one. But there were PLENTY of fans who never watched him coach a single game before he came to Buffalo. You're really shocked that not every fan follows SU football, or college football, closely enough to have a rock solid, totally accurate opinion about a rookie head coach? All I'm saying is that people's opinions change as the facts as they know them change. Which is why rushing to judgement (on anything) is usually a really bad idea without knowing all the facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Who threw Greg McElroy in the 4th quarter of a 7-0 game? I assume Rex, after watching his team unable to score for three quarters. Why. Although a lot of times that is an OC's call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Greg Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Once again, how lucky are we that Doug overplayed his hand and opted out. What an upgrade with Rex. If EJ can't get it done now, there are no more excuses. Hoping he can take the next step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 I assume Rex, after watching his team unable to score for three quarters. Why. Although a lot of times that is an OC's call. Well, that probably made Sancho feel confident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Well, that probably made Sancho feel confident. Dirty Sancho sucked, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Dirty Sancho sucked, too. Incompetent OC's. He just needs more time with David Lee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/outkick-the-coverage/how-a-rookie-head-coach-derailed-a-rookie-quarterback-then-vanished-with-4-million-071515 Edit - related article added @RQUINN619: All-22 Breakdown of #Bills QB EJ Manuel: Does He Have What it Takes? http://t.co/mbW1IEiJcM http://t.co/TKorLN6vJ9 :worthy: one thing Yolo some people can't handle the truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreezeMafia Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Love this article. So happy Marrone is gone. EJ is going to become a good QB for us and its going to be nice to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Come on---your point was being made specifically in a thread about young or rookie QBs! So no, I don't understand why you would say that about Rex because I think it's the opposite of what actually is his habit with QBs. My point was that Rex is an inspirational coach. That's not even opinion, it's fact. That he also pulled bad QBs who weren't playing well doesn't disprove that fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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