GG Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Definitely the most dangerous man in the race. He's no Bernie, I'll give you that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Trump is a "choice" for you? I'd vote for Bush W, Gore, Obama, Clinton, Carson...even "the rent is too damn high" before Trump. Has there been a more frightening candidate in the last 30 years. Seriously, could you pull the lever for Trump? ▶ 1:36 Sure I could. He's not my choice among the R's but his ideology and principles are far superior to Hillary. What are you afraid he'll do if elected? Secure the border? Cut some spending? Address SS deficit? Be too tough on ISIS? Tell the Chinese to F-off? Most of the people here who you would consider to be on the right probably don't self identify as republicans. I can't speak for all but I can myself. I am not a republican. I feel the party is too concerned with maintaining the status quo and continuing careers, beholden to special interests and the party of democrat lite. I vote for the candidates in any election that most closely aligns with my viewpoints. There are many disenfranchised "republican" voters who feel betrayed by the party that has lost their way and refused to stand up for its principles. And to your other point Trump exists beause of obama, and republicans not executing their campaign promises once we elect them. Trump is such an extreme alpha male take no bull **** call it like he sees it persona, that he is a breath of fresh air to many who are sick of Obama's bull **** policies general lack of leadership and indecisiveness and apologizing for America. Trump actively speaks what many in the republican party feel. He is optimistic and wants to make America exceptional. He recognizes there are real threats to america, he values freedom and the 2nd ammendment etc.. There is a reason by and large the GOP establishment and media have turned against him so quickly but voters still flock to him. He is a threat to the status quo and the good ol boy network. I still don't know if he is my preferred candidate from the right, but I guarantee 100% I would vote for him over anyone the left rolls out without a second of hesitation. Yes. I was a registered conservative when I lived in NY state. Illinois has no conservative party choice so R now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Wow. You want President Trump. He would do more damage to the US in 4 years than any other president in history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Wow. You want President Trump. He would do more damage to the US in 4 years than any other president in history. How? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Wow. You want President Trump. He would do more damage to the US in 4 years than any other president in history. I want him over Hillary for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I want him over Hillary for sure. It doesn't matter. The US is broken. Hilary will do nothing. Trump will do nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Wow. You want President Trump. He would do more damage to the US in 4 years than any other president in history. That'd take some doing, given Hussein Obama's abysmal record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 That'd take some doing, given Hussein Obama's abysmal record. Trump could do it. He's that nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Trump could do it. He's that nuts. Sure, and the Bills could beat the Patriots tonight in Foxboro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I want him over Hillary for sure. Hillary is just a power hungry part of the old Dem machine. She won't wreck the country. She'll just be an iteration of things we've already seen. You won't like her and neither will I but it won't be a disaster. Trump could literally blow the entire world to bits. Do you really want someone that mentally unstable to be president? I truly fear for the USA that you and others would vote for him. I would vote for gatorman with a VP of Tom Brady before I'd vote for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Hillary is just a power hungry part of the old Dem machine. She won't wreck the country. She'll just be an iteration of things we've already seen. You won't like her and neither will I but it won't be a disaster. Trump could literally blow the entire world to bits. Do you really want someone that mentally unstable to be president? I truly fear for the USA that you and others would vote for him. I would vote for gatorman with a VP of Tom Brady before I'd vote for him So your fear about Trump is that he'll order massive military attacks around the world without the Congress making a declaration of war? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 So your fear about Trump is that he'll order massive military attacks around the world without the Congress making a declaration of war? My fear about Trump is that he'll nuke Russia just because Putin made fun of his hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 It seems to me that as time passes, Donald Trump looks more and more like an angry chicken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 It seems to me that as time passes, Donald Trump looks more and more like an angry chicken. Separated at birth, or the mother? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 So your fear about Trump is that he'll order massive military attacks around the world without the Congress making a declaration of war? I fear he'd alienate much of the world saying coarse and inappropriate things and threatening people with little cause. yes, I know putin does this already. I don't want two putin types running 2 superpower nations. diplomacy is greatly undervalued. it's much cheaper than blood and treasure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I fear he'd alienate much of the world saying coarse and inappropriate things and threatening people with little cause. yes, I know putin does this already. I don't want two putin types running 2 superpower nations. diplomacy is greatly undervalued. it's much cheaper than blood and treasure. And yet for all his ridiculous bombast, he'd still be a better President for the US than Bernie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I fear he'd alienate much of the world saying coarse and inappropriate things and threatening people with little cause. yes, I know putin does this already. I don't want two putin types running 2 superpower nations. diplomacy is greatly undervalued. it's much cheaper than blood and treasure. Putin is much smarter than Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Putin is much smarter than Trump. agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Putin is much smarter than Trump. Putin is also much smarter than Obama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobu Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I forgot all about this forum. Thanks Tom. I am here for my proper idiot branding. I am for whoever scares the hell out of everyone else in Washington. Trump definitely fits the bill, but ultimately it's going to be Rubio or Cruz. I would prefer Paul, I voted for his old man every chance I got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I forgot all about this forum. Thanks Tom. I am here for my proper idiot branding. I am for whoever scares the hell out of everyone else in Washington. Trump definitely fits the bill, but ultimately it's going to be Rubio or Cruz. I would prefer Paul, I voted for his old man every chance I got. You're an idiot. When I get around to reading your drivel, I'll let you know why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 It seems to me that as time passes, Donald Trump looks more and more like an angry chicken. He only wins the nomination if he cuts his hair and starts speaking like a shrewd, seasoned and capable businessman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 23, 2015 Author Share Posted November 23, 2015 He only wins the nomination if he cuts his hair and starts speaking like a shrewd, seasoned and capable businessman. And the person that will beat him is...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 He only wins the nomination if he cuts his hair and starts speaking like a shrewd, seasoned and capable businessman. Problem is, the average schmuck will link any candidate opposing her imperial majesty to the loony. Oh my God, I shudder to think about Hillary as president. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Problem is, the average schmuck will link any candidate opposing her imperial majesty to the loony. Oh my God, I shudder to think about Hillary as president. Donald scares me more than Hillary. But really, I don't think there's a single candidate running who won't !@#$ up the country. Our choices are a matter of degree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 unfortunately that's a firm "yes" from many here and many others on the right. there are very few bush repubs left and literally no Rockefeller repubs. scary stuff that so many can support this selfish, spiteful, childish egomaniac. this is a direct result of a disenfranchised and dwindling middle class grasping at straws. news flash: trump is not on your side. Be honest. You'd be fine with all of that if he were a liberal Democrat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 (edited) Be honest. You'd be fine with all of that if he were a liberal Democrat. i don't think any of those adjectives fit bernie. he's my first choice. if there were two candidates for which those adjectives were fitting, i'd likely pick the dem since odds are good that we'd agree on more issues. fwiw, i'm not a hillary fan but she's the lesser of evils against the repub field for me. Edited November 24, 2015 by birdog1960 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 i don't think any of those adjectives fit bernie. he's my first choice. if there were two candidates for which those adjectives were fitting, i'd likely pick the dem since odds are good that we'd agree on more issues. fwiw, i'm not a hillary fan but she's the lesser of evils against the repub field for me. They fit Obama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 They fit Obama. i don't agree. selfish wouldn't have risked his political future on health insurance for millions of lower and falling middle class. spiteful doesn't make hillary and then kerry sec of state he has a healthy ego. it's not maniacal or anywhere near trump's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 (edited) So your fear about Trump is that he'll order massive military attacks around the world without the Congress making a declaration of war? He's an unhinged person. I'd rather have a level headed and calm presence with that much power in his hands. While I said "finger on the button," a better choice would have been "in charge of the military." I don't trust that power in his hands. And I don't trust him to navigate foreign or domestic policy. The fact that Trump's facts are often straight from the Snopes false list is the new normal his supporters are looking for. Better to make a headline with some wildly false statistic or distorted urban myth than tell the truth. See latest black violence tweet or his remarks about the partying in the streets as the towers fell. I don't want a president who's an entertainer first. I want a president who actually cares about his country more than himself. Not one other candidate comes close to being as utterly frightening for the future of the US as Trump. Sanders is a socialist ideologue but at heart, he means well and Congress would check most of his ridiculous machinations. Trump would send the US economy into a tailspin of uncertainty, the world into a foreign policy mess, and who knows what hellish things he would do with the military. He is the only person who may truly unwind the country. The rest of the people in the race would just create Bush/Obama style messes of a style we're used to. Edited November 24, 2015 by Observer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 i don't agree. selfish wouldn't have risked his political future on health insurance for millions of lower and falling middle class. spiteful doesn't make hillary and then kerry sec of state he has a healthy ego. it's not maniacal or anywhere near trump's. Health care was his legacy, and making Hillary SOS was throwing a bone to get the full support of the Clinton wing of the party. These weren't personal sacrifices. And I think if Obama had the same arrogant and condescending personality but was a conservative Republican, you'd speak of him roughly the way I do now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Health care was his legacy, and making Hillary SOS was throwing a bone to get the full support of the Clinton wing of the party. These weren't personal sacrifices. And I think if Obama had the same arrogant and condescending personality but was a conservative Republican, you'd speak of him roughly the way I do now. And Obama didn't have the individual accomplishments that Trump loves to crow about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 i don't think any of those adjectives fit bernie. he's my first choice. if there were two candidates for which those adjectives were fitting, i'd likely pick the dem since odds are good that we'd agree on more issues. fwiw, i'm not a hillary fan but she's the lesser of evils against the repub field for me. Lol Bernie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 (edited) i don't think any of those adjectives fit bernie. he's my first choice. Of course. Why question a candidate whose platform aims to blow up >50% GDP of the wealthiest nation on the planet and turn it into a place where most of the inhabitants ran from? Edited November 24, 2015 by GG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 24, 2015 Author Share Posted November 24, 2015 They fit Obama. You are saying Obama is as wacky as Trump? How stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 i don't agree. selfish wouldn't have risked his political future on health insurance for millions of lower and falling middle class. spiteful doesn't make hillary and then kerry sec of state he has a healthy ego. it's not maniacal or anywhere near trump's. Barry risked nothing. As is his wont, it's always someone else's fault. And as for Hilly and Johnny, you've heard the saying "keep your friends close..."? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Barry risked nothing. As is his wont, it's always someone else's fault. And as for Hilly and Johnny, you've heard the saying "keep your friends close..."? Clinton and Kerry were basically given a gift position that makes them more appealing in future presidential races, to keep them on the inside and from being critical of Obama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Clinton and Kerry were basically given a gift position that makes them more appealing in future presidential races, to keep them on the inside and from being critical of Obama. That's what I was saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 27, 2015 Author Share Posted November 27, 2015 Trump making fun of the disabled now. Wish he'd save idiotic stuff like this for the general election, so that he makes it there. But hopefully Conservatives will ignore it http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2015/11/26/trump-blasted-mocking-disabled-reporter/76409418/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 kasich speaks the truth http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/258332-kasich-im-done-being-polite-with-carson-trump. unfortunately, most of you and the repub primary electorate won't listen. Trump making fun of the disabled now. Wish he'd save idiotic stuff like this for the general election, so that he makes it there. But hopefully Conservatives will ignore ithttp://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2015/11/26/trump-blasted-mocking-disabled-reporter/76409418/ there are many in the repub electorate that will be impressed by him on this. they think it's bold, candid and not politics as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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