#34fan Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 WAY premature. Every OSU QB that took over that offense last year lit it up. Not impressed by Cardale. Kevin Hogan in the 2nd or 3rd if he comes out. O-line in 1st Cardale Jones is as legit an NFL QB prospect as any... Arm strength for DAYS, and still manages to put the ball where only his guy can get it... Tough, and intimidating as a runner.. Wills the game to an outcome....Lots to like.. Hoping like heck they keep him away from Dave Lee, and George Whitfield! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBackersChicago Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Calling it right now. Cardale Jones is going to be a flash in the pan. He's going to get drafted in the 1st round by some team that will look at him as the next face of the franchise and he's going to be a colossal disappointment. So ur saying the Browns are taking him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 It seems the media thinks Ryan got the GM job too. I keep reading things like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 @ljacarlton: *NEW* @draftbreakdown Michigan State QB Connor Cook (#18) vs. Baylor (2014, Cotton Bowl) http://t.co/qwtiewL0ZV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 12.Gauge. @PFF: Cardale Jones QB Rating in 2014: Not blitzed: 77.5 (0 TD/1 INT) When blitzed: 127.7 (7 TDs/1 INT) http://t.co/EYoILjSZpG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 (edited) This! @theMMQB: Michigan St. QB Connor Cook's journey from non-recruit to top QB prospect for the '16 draft. http://t.co/qVNVXuIpmChttp://t.co/BYaZbkkhuW @afc2nfc: NEW at @draftbreakdown - my latest CFB preview is a look at Connor Cook and the Michigan State Spartans: http://t.co/f5GoFePp5V #NFLDraft Edited June 18, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted July 15, 2015 Author Share Posted July 15, 2015 @NFL League announces dates for 2016 NFL Draft: http://bit.ly/1Mb2JjF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Cardale Jones born in Cleveland . Browns may go after him if he has a good year.SF wishing they drafted based on where a player was born. Alex Smith over Aaron Rodgers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJasper Probincrux III Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 (edited) Someone has to explain the world's fascination with Christian Hackenberg to me. I watch Penn State most weeks and he's never once made an "OMG I need that guy." type of throw. Most of the time he looks like a less productive version of Rob Johnson. Anyone who picks Hackenberg in the first ROUND let alone #1 overall is a fool who is still hoping his Prep grading magically pans out. IMO Connor Cook is the guy in this coming draft. Cardale Jones is a wild card right now. IF he wins the OSU job and IF he stays productive this year he could leapfrog Cook based on freak of nature potential. Edited July 15, 2015 by DJasper Probincrux III Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBob2232 Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Someone has to explain the world's fascination with Christian Hackenberg to me. I watch Penn State most weeks and he's never once made an "OMG I need that guy." type of throw. Most of the time he looks like a less productive version of Rob Johnson. Anyone who picks Hackenberg in the first ROUND let alone #1 overall is a fool who is still hoping his Prep grading magically pans out. Then you havent been paying attention to the whole story. Go back to his true freshman year, and he made TONS of the "OMG I need that guy" type of passes. But he also had a strong offensive line, and elite WRs, many of which (OL and WR) are in the NFL right now. But last year, when those WRs graduated and much of the OL was replaced by true freshman due to the sanctions, he was sacked FOURTY FOUR times, and knocked down probably another 100 times. As a result, he struggled BIG TIME. He is still raw, but he has the tools to be a top flight NFL QB. I think you will see him step up this year. Here is his freshman year highlight reel: https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=hackenberg+highlight+&ei=UTF-8&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-001. AS a true freshman he had poise, composure, made smart decisions, was a strong leader, and progressed through his reads in a NFL offense run by Bill O'Brien. Many college QBs look good because the players are open and they get them the ball. Hackenberg as a freshman was able to anticipate the play, and lead the receiver. Last year, under James Franklin, he regressed, but I attribute that as much to Franklin and the offensive scheme as I do to Hackenberg. Assuming he declares, I GUARANTEE you that he will go in the first round. There is NO WAY Bill O"Brien and the Texans will be on the clock and not select him. ZERO. Someone is going to get a good QB. I hope its us. Actually I hope EJ plays so well we dont need Hackenberg...but it would be a good consolation prize if this season goes as I am afraid its going to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJasper Probincrux III Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Then you havent been paying attention to the whole story. Go back to his true freshman year, and he made TONS of the "OMG I need that guy" type of passes. But he also had a strong offensive line, and elite WRs, many of which (OL and WR) are in the NFL right now. But last year, when those WRs graduated and much of the OL was replaced by true freshman due to the sanctions, he was sacked FOURTY FOUR times, and knocked down probably another 100 times. As a result, he struggled BIG TIME. He is still raw, but he has the tools to be a top flight NFL QB. I think you will see him step up this year. Here is his freshman year highlight reel: https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=hackenberg+highlight+&ei=UTF-8&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-001. AS a true freshman he had poise, composure, made smart decisions, was a strong leader, and progressed through his reads in a NFL offense run by Bill O'Brien. Many college QBs look good because the players are open and they get them the ball. Hackenberg as a freshman was able to anticipate the play, and lead the receiver. Last year, under James Franklin, he regressed, but I attribute that as much to Franklin and the offensive scheme as I do to Hackenberg. Assuming he declares, I GUARANTEE you that he will go in the first round. There is NO WAY Bill O"Brien and the Texans will be on the clock and not select him. ZERO. Someone is going to get a good QB. I hope its us. Actually I hope EJ plays so well we dont need Hackenberg...but it would be a good consolation prize if this season goes as I am afraid its going to. I absolutely hate his footwork and he regressed a ton last year. https://youtu.be/z8vGqCWT2M4?t=284 He throws a TD there but the stiff legged flat footed throw, particularly out of the shotgun, was very reflective of his play last year and it's not good. He threw 8 regular season TDs last year (12 games) and only 4 in conference play. He was absolutely atrocious the entire month of November. I grant that he played well in the bowl game. Was he hurt and had a month to heal? Did he check out and turn it back on under a spotlight? I don't know. I don't doubt that someone will take him in the first round. I hope to God it's not us. I don't think it's too much to ask to have a college QB produce in order to be taken highly. I know Penn State has been down but they won a couple games last year, that should be gimmies in any year, in SPITE of Hackenburg not because of him (Indiana and Temple). Plenty of college QBs turn out decent numbers and performances with subpar supporting casts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 I am very interested to watch Hackenberg. He has a lot to prove. He looked amazing at elite 11 but how will he do with a pass rush in his face. He has all the tools. His stats are dreadful from 2014 and in 2013 half the time he looked terrified. Connor Cook has shown me more as an NFL prospect this far. But both could be franchise QBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 (edited) Someone has to explain the world's fascination with Christian Hackenberg to me. I watch Penn State most weeks and he's never once made an "OMG I need that guy." type of throw. Most of the time he looks like a less productive version of Rob Johnson. Anyone who picks Hackenberg in the first ROUND let alone #1 overall is a fool who is still hoping his Prep grading magically pans out. IMO Connor Cook is the guy in this coming draft. Cardale Jones is a wild card right now. IF he wins the OSU job and IF he stays productive this year he could leapfrog Cook based on freak of nature potential. Agree, Hackenberg is extremely overrated in my opinion. Unfortunately for Cardale, I still got JT winning the job. Cardale really didn't do that much to win those games in the playoffs, that was the Ezekiel Elliot show. He really only dominated the Wisconsin game. Me, I'm have been and still am on the Cody Kessler train. Reminds me of Brees. A bit smaller, with a bit less of an "rocket" arm, but accurate as anyone and makes very few mistakes (and plays against very fast tough D in the Pac10). He didn't have a single bad game all last season and PROGRESSED instead of regressed from the previous year. And, to top it all off, he will most likely be around it the 2nd round. Don't be surprised though, if when all is said an done Jared Goff is the fist QB taken. Edited July 16, 2015 by Mark80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Impossible to know where Jones will be picked as no one knows how much he'll actually play on that QB-loaded team. I believe they even have a top freshman coming in but he'll undoubtedly be redshirted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 (edited) Agree, Hackenberg is extremely overrated in my opinion. Unfortunately for Cardale, I still got JT winning the job. Cardale really didn't do that much to win those games in the playoffs, that was the Ezekiel Elliot show. He really only dominated the Wisconsin game. i love JT. But it's possible that Zeke was running wild because the defense was so scared of Cardale's arm. Up until JT got hurt, I thought Elliot was JAG. Edited July 16, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 (edited) i love JT. But it's possible that Zeke was running wild because the defense was so scared of Cardale's arm. Up until JT got hurt, I thought Elliot was JAG. I don't know man, he ran all over Michigan State, Wisconsin, Alabama, and Oregon State. The best 4 defenses he faced. The first 3 especially are always stop the run first type teams regardless of who the QB is. In the beginning of the year he just wasn't getting the touches, once he started getting the ball he was pretty damn effective. Edited July 16, 2015 by Mark80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 I don't know man, he ran all over Michigan State, Wisconsin, Alabama, and Oregon State. The best 4 defenses he faced. The first 3 especially are always stop the run first type teams regardless of who the QB is. In the beginning of the year he just wasn't getting the touches, once he started getting the ball he was pretty damn effective. i just remember saying "I miss Carlos Hyde" for most of the year. Then all of a sudden he was unstoppable. Could have been the OL coming together too. And the WRs blocking so well. I do think Elliott is a stud though and he was playing with only one healthy wrist all year. He has great vision. In urban I trust with the QB situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 5, 2015 Author Share Posted August 5, 2015 Hackenberg determined to deliver on draft hype ESPN: Penn State's Christian Hackenberg must prove that he can deliver on his potential to remain atop NFL draft boards, Kevin Van Valkenburg writes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 With the season approaching, these are the guys I'm keeping my eye on for round 1-4 options Connor Cook, Michigan State Cardale Jones, Ohio State Jared Goff, Cal Patrick Towles, Kentucky Kevin Hogan, Stanford Jacoby Brissett, NC State Trevone Boykin, TCU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 With the season approaching, these are the guys I'm keeping my eye on for round 1-4 options Connor Cook, Michigan State Cardale Jones, Ohio State Jared Goff, Cal Patrick Towles, Kentucky Kevin Hogan, Stanford Jacoby Brissett, NC State Trevone Boykin, TCU No Hackenberg? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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