San-O Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Just looking at the Bills Daily draft, and agree what the Bills may do, however mentioning that the pick would start day 1 is obvioulsy very optimistic as last years # 2 pick never even stepped on the field. o They have Cordy Glenn moving inside. o They have Henderson moving to left side??? o So you basically have at least 3 new position players not including R guard? o And have a 2nd year never played at LT in NFL and rookie at RT? Bills Daily mock -18 ( #50 overall) OT Jake Fisher - Oregon The one main weakness besides quarterback is the offensive line where the team needs another starter and should look for one with their top pick in the draft. Fortunately it is a deep class at tackle and guard. Fisher would step right in probably at right tackle moving Seantrell Henderson to the left side and Cordy Glenn inside to guard. If he's gone they may look to snag the top guard in the draft if Duke's Laken Tomlinson is available. He could stop right in on the inside and they can leave Glenn and Henderson on the outside. Florida State's Tre Jackson or South Carolina's A.J. Cann are also options in the second round at guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 I am a big fan of Jake Fisher......I think he is going to be a very good offensive linemen in the NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Love the pick, but don't think he'll be there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Got to agree with the OP. I will add that i can not see Glenn being really happy about being moved inside. LT still get paid more than guards. Rather see the Bills draft a guard in the second or third round and allow Henderson to play another year at RT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 he will be long gone imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 He'd be long gone by 50. And I can't see them moving that many guys to new positions on the OL..just too disruptive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richNjoisy Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Fisher expected to be gone by about pick 40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxy312 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Most boards have 8-9 OT's coming off the board prior to the Bills pick at #50, and Fisher is definitely one of them. In fact, on many boards, he's the top 4th or 5th prospect at the position. To boot, I don't see Glenn moving to the inside. He's been more than serviceable playing LT and I think that the team will be looking for continuity over what's been an endless shuffle of positions resulting in terrible continuity for the team. The more likely scenario IMO is the Bills drafting the 1st or 2nd rated guard in the draft. They're both ranking out right about there at #50-60 to boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San-O Posted April 29, 2015 Author Share Posted April 29, 2015 Most boards have 8-9 OT's coming off the board prior to the Bills pick at #50, and Fisher is definitely one of them. In fact, on many boards, he's the top 4th or 5th prospect at the position. To boot, I don't see Glenn moving to the inside. He's been more than serviceable playing LT and I think that the team will be looking for continuity over what's been an endless shuffle of positions resulting in terrible continuity for the team. The more likely scenario IMO is the Bills drafting the 1st or 2nd rated guard in the draft. They're both ranking out right about there at #50-60 to boot. I would think they new regime would be looking to eliminate questions marks on the O line, not create them. Q: CAN Glenn play right guard? I remember they tried him there a bit, but never moved him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxy312 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 I would think they new regime would be looking to eliminate questions marks on the O line, not create them. Q: CAN Glenn play right guard? I remember they tried him there a bit, but never moved him... Does anyone actually care if he can or not? He CAN play LT. That position is vastly more important. CAN he play TE? I care about that almost as much. LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San-O Posted April 29, 2015 Author Share Posted April 29, 2015 Does anyone actually care if he can or not? He CAN play LT. That position is vastly more important. CAN he play TE? I care about that almost as much. LOL. : ) Right... It's just so much speculation, and he didn't play well last year at ALL, according to almost everyone I've read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxy312 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 (edited) So here's some interesting information about the Bills that I wasn't aware of. In the last dozen drafts, the Bills first draft selection has been a player that was scheduled for and had a visit with the team. Not all worked out, but they did visit. Out of a possible 30 visitors, the Bills only had 12 kids this year visit and/or workout for them. Keeping in mind that the Bills have picks 50, 81, 155, 188, 194, and 234; here's the list of visitors. I've included the CBS Sports prospect ranking as anecdotal information/food for thought and ranked them from highest to lowest.1 - Byron Jones (CB/S) - 20 2 - Nelson Agholor (WR) - 34 3 - Carl Davis (DT/NT/DE) - 53 4 - Nate Orchard (DE/LB) - 69 5 - Bryce Petty (QB) - 73 6 - Garrett Grayson (QB) - 95 7 - John Miller (OG) - 113 8 - Karlos Williams (RB) - 181 9 - Chaz Green (OT) - 191 10 - Jamon Brown (OT) - 264 11 - Darius Kilgo (DT) - 330 12 - Chris Dunkly (WR/CB) - 958 Should history hold true and they draft one of the guys above, that will be 13 years in a row. Oh and Whaley did say they needed depth at defensive back, so Byron Jones may just be a pipe dream. Edited April 29, 2015 by Luxy312 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 (edited) So here's some interesting information about the Bills that I wasn't aware of. In the last dozen drafts, the Bills first draft selection has been a player that was scheduled for and had a visit with the team. Not all worked out, but they did visit. Out of a possible 30 visitors, the Bills only had 12 kids this year visit and/or workout for them. Keeping in mind that the Bills have picks 50, 81, 155, 188, 194, and 234; here's the list of visitors. I've included the CBS Sports prospect ranking as anecdotal information/food for thought and ranked them from highest to lowest. 1 - Byron Jones (CB/S) - 20 2 - Nelson Agholor (WR) - 34 3 - Carl Davis (DT/NT/DE) - 53 4 - Nate Orchard (DE/LB) - 69 5 - Bryce Petty (QB) - 73 6 - Garrett Grayson (QB) - 95 7 - John Miller (OG) - 113 8 - Karlos Williams (RB) - 181 9 - Chaz Green (OT) - 191 10 - Jamon Brown (OT) - 264 11 - Darius Kilgo (DT) - 330 12 - Chris Dunkly (WR/CB) - 958 Should history hold true and they draft one of the guys above, that will be 13 years in a row. Oh and Whaley did say they needed depth at defensive back, so Byron Jones may just be a pipe dream. Davis is looking more and more like the pick at 50... Edited April 29, 2015 by Lurker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Anderson's Lunch Pail Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 I like Fisher too, but from what I've read and seen, his style of play doesn't really match what I think the Bills are moving towards with their OL. There seem to be better fits. Just my two cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY315 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 (edited) : ) Right... It's just so much speculation, and he didn't play well last year at ALL, according to almost everyone I've read. He regressed but "didn't play well at all" is a stretch. I think his illness and missing most of TC had a lot to do with it Edited April 29, 2015 by CNY315 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 (edited) Davis is looking more and more like the pick at 50...IF Davis predicted to play a 5 technique or NT I'd think he'd be high on my draftboard for the Bills yet he checks in more as a 3 or 1 tech in the NFL which not best fit for us. I have a feeling based on visits and Whaley's comments we might take a less obvious guy and/or over draft a guy as we've had some success doing it with Kiko and Preston Brown recently. Edited April 29, 2015 by The Jokeman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 IF Davis predicted to play a 5 technique or NT I'd think he'd be high on my draftboard for the Bills yet he checks in more as a 3 or 1 tech in the NFL which not best fit for us. I have a feeling based on visits and Whaley's comments we might take a less obvious guy and/or over draft a guy as we've had some success doing it with Kiko and Preston Brown recently. IMO, he'd actually be a better compliment to Dareus than Kyle, who doesn't really play the "space eater" role that Rex likes to employ. We all love Kyle, but he often seems to guess on which gap to attack--which works great when he's right, but opens a big hole when the play goes to the other side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Jeff Heuerman also visited Fwiw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Havenstein, the tackle from Wisconsin has also been projected as the Bills' pick. He may well be there. I still like Tomlinson at guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 (edited) IMO, he'd actually be a better compliment to Dareus than Kyle, who doesn't really play the "space eater" role that Rex likes to employ. We all love Kyle, but he often seems to guess on which gap to attack--which works great when he's right, but opens a big hole when the play goes to the other side. That's why Kyle's best suited for a 4-3 alignment as he's not one to hold a gap instead he tries to bust it. In other words he plays 3 technique. If Rex is planning on doing a hybrid 3-4/4-3 I'd say trade Kyle for something of value. Edited April 29, 2015 by The Jokeman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 I think u can find space eaters later in the draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 I think u can find space eaters later in the draft Space eaters are great but they also have to be athletic enough to also move down the line and make a tackle when called upon it. Dareus can play NT in a 3-4 as he did when Pettine was here but that limits his pass rushing which is arguably makes him so great as he can do both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
217014170 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 So here's some interesting information about the Bills that I wasn't aware of. In the last dozen drafts, the Bills first draft selection has been a player that was scheduled for and had a visit with the team. Not all worked out, but they did visit. Out of a possible 30 visitors, the Bills only had 12 kids this year visit and/or workout for them. Keeping in mind that the Bills have picks 50, 81, 155, 188, 194, and 234; here's the list of visitors. I've included the CBS Sports prospect ranking as anecdotal information/food for thought and ranked them from highest to lowest. 1 - Byron Jones (CB/S) - 20 2 - Nelson Agholor (WR) - 34 3 - Carl Davis (DT/NT/DE) - 53 4 - Nate Orchard (DE/LB) - 69 5 - Bryce Petty (QB) - 73 6 - Garrett Grayson (QB) - 95 7 - John Miller (OG) - 113 8 - Karlos Williams (RB) - 181 9 - Chaz Green (OT) - 191 10 - Jamon Brown (OT) - 264 11 - Darius Kilgo (DT) - 330 12 - Chris Dunkly (WR/CB) - 958 Should history hold true and they draft one of the guys above, that will be 13 years in a row. Oh and Whaley did say they needed depth at defensive back, so Byron Jones may just be a pipe dream. Well done...this is interesting. I like Davis and I really think the Bills will go D-Line in Round 2...QB in Round 3...Best OL available and then BPA. Davis is a good guy to have on special teams in the kicking game, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 I am a big fan of Jake Fisher......I think he is going to be a very good offensive linemen in the NFL You seem very confident in Fisher. I'm wondering why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 I am not a fan of Davis I would rather LB or OL in round 2 CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 I'm not sure that Fisher is worth that pick. Anyone ever put eyes on him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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