What a Tuel Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 I believe that I'm in the minority but I think that spending 8 million a year on Clay is way to much. His numbers over the last 4 years are worse than Chandlers. Clay 161 rec- 1809 yards- 14 td's (4 years) Chandler 181 rec- 2112 yards- 17 td's (5 years) And Julius Thomas 109 rec - 1282 yards - 12 tds (3 years) Now why don't we take a deeper look into what these guys do rather than just compare stats with no context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 I'd rather have Chandler. But get it was all about the money ditto. I like Chandler and wish he WAS a top tier TE and would like to see him back at a lower salary over a 30somehting throwaway. For the umpteenth time...Chandler was a terrible blocker. I would prefer TE's to pass catch that have to be a blocker, just saying Bills prob need a backup plan, since the Dolphins could match an offer on Clay up to the 5th day. While I wasnt a huge Chandler fan, does make me wonder why they released him this early with the uncertainty at our TE position. fixed it for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Bills Fan Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 And Julius Thomas 109 rec - 1282 yards - 12 tds (3 years) Now why don't we take a deeper look into what these guys do rather than just compare stats with no context. O.K. What does Clay offer that would warrant paying him 3X what Chandler made? Neither is much of a blocker and both are similar receivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Has Clay actually signed an offer sheet? If he hasn't and given the possibility of Miami matching it, why cut Chandler, who continually gets unjustifiably trashed on this board. Fasano will block but won't catch anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Has Clay actually signed an offer sheet? If he hasn't and given the possibility of Miami matching it, why cut Chandler, who continually gets unjustifiably trashed on this board. Fasano will block but won't catch anything. Not yet, but all indications are that he'll sign either today or tomorrow. He's still in town, and that wouldn't be the case if he (and the team) weren't intent on getting a deal done. Plus Armondo Salguero reported that he's hearing that Clay will sign today or tomorrow with the Bills. Lastly, Fasano is basically a replacement for Lee Smith. Probably a better blocker (I never thought Smith was very good at it), and definitely more of a receiving threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 12, 2015 Author Share Posted March 12, 2015 Not yet, but all indications are that he'll sign either today or tomorrow. He's still in town, and that wouldn't be the case if he (and the team) weren't intent on getting a deal done. Plus Armondo Salguero reported that he's hearing that Clay will sign today or tomorrow with the Bills. Lastly, Fasano is basically a replacement for Lee Smith. Probably a better blocker (I never thought Smith was very good at it), and definitely more of a receiving threat. agreed. Fasano is an upgrade from smith and Clay is an upgrade from Chandler (and fits romans offense like a glove). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobinaz Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 With Fasano an upgrade over smith, guess we can expect far fewer penalties too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Plus Armondo Salguero reported that he's hearing that Clay will sign today or tomorrow with the Bills. Tomorrow? Ugh. Yesterday everyone was saying it would come and if not it would happen today. Anybody know if he flew home? Dude's been here since Tuesday. If they don't get an offer sheet done until tomorrow that's one helluva long visit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Tomorrow? Ugh. Yesterday everyone was saying it would come and if not it would happen today. Anybody know if he flew home? Dude's been here since Tuesday. If they don't get an offer sheet done until tomorrow that's one helluva long visit! He's here from what the connected media guys are saying...I wouldn't sweat it; as a transition player, this contract is going to have to be structured properly to get him here. That takes time, and Jimmy O knows what he's doing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 12, 2015 Author Share Posted March 12, 2015 Tomorrow? Ugh. Yesterday everyone was saying it would come and if not it would happen today. Anybody know if he flew home? Dude's been here since Tuesday. If they don't get an offer sheet done until tomorrow that's one helluva long visit! from everything reported, the transition tag players take time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChanOverChin Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Chandler was waived for cap reasons only. The Bills may actually bring him back at some point since Roman likes to have 4 TEs available for use in his offense. At some point I could see the Bills going into training camp with Clay (they love his versatility), Fasano, Chandler, M. Gray while also drafting a TE. Those 5 plus Gragg and the Canisius TE would fight for 4 spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 @JeffDarlington #Chiefs will be releasing TE Anthony Fasano later today, source says. Yay or nay... Edit: keep in mind the Bills have publically stated they need to add TEs, plural. I'm under-enthused. He's not a big boy - 6'4", 255. 10 year vet. Best years ~30 catches for 450 yds. Said to be able to block well. Maybe a guy who can catch about as well as Chandler but block about as well as Lee Smith? Here's what PFF had to say about him: https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/04/05/secret-superstar-anthony-fasano-miami-dolphins/ He talked some junk about Buffalo back in the day. Screw him. He's like a clearance rack TE. We can do much better. Really? What did he say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Chandler was waived for cap reasons only. The Bills may actually bring him back at some point since Roman likes to have 4 TEs available for use in his offense. At some point I could see the Bills going into training camp with Clay (they love his versatility), Fasano, Chandler, M. Gray while also drafting a TE. Those 5 plus Gragg and the Canisius TE would fight for 4 spots. If Chandler was released for cap reasons, then it's directly connected with whoever Buffalo is trying to sign, so the TE roster spot is not mutually exclusive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 If Chandler was released for cap reasons, then it's directly connected with whoever Buffalo is trying to sign, so the TE roster spot is not mutually exclusive. chandler was released because he is a poor blocker with average hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 (edited) chandler was released because he is a poor blocker with average hands yeah he sucked Chandler led Buffalo's tight ends in catches and yards in each of the past four seasons, including last year when he had 47 receptions for 497 yards. He has 17 touchdowns in 65 career games with the Bills. Chandler scored six times in both 2011 and '12 to match the franchise's single-season record for TDs by a tight end. Chandler ranks third among Bills tight ends in touchdowns and 182 catches. and his snow storm TD celebration was awesome Edited March 12, 2015 by BillsFan-4-Ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 I believe that I'm in the minority but I think that spending 8 million a year on Clay is way to much. His numbers over the last 4 years are worse than Chandlers. Clay 161 rec- 1809 yards- 14 td's Chandler 181 rec- 2112 yards- 17 td's Extremely misleading numbers there.Over the past two seasons Clay has amassed about 90% of those stats. Also Clay has been the 6th most productive TE since 2013. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 yeah he sucked Chandler led Buffalo's tight ends in catches and yards in each of the past four seasons, including last year when he had 47 receptions for 497 yards. He has 17 touchdowns in 65 career games with the Bills. Chandler scored six times in both 2011 and '12 to match the franchise's single-season record for TDs by a tight end. Chandler ranks third among Bills tight ends in touchdowns and 182 catches. and his snow storm TD celebration was awesome Well his competition at TE over the past four years makes he has led the team a bit misleading. I would have thought Butch Rolle had the most but checked and your correct, I guess Butch "caught" the ball when they need one. Nobody will top the snowstorm celebration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 13, 2015 Author Share Posted March 13, 2015 @JoeBuscaglia: TE Anthony Fasano has signed with the Titans according to @MikeGarafolo. #Bills fans should not be upset, he's not very good at the football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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