All I Need is Hope Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I know that it's very early in free agency, but some of the enthusiasm seems to have faded. So far, we're maybe breaking even when comparing last year's team to this years; specifically, - Cassell for Orton - maybe a slight plus McCoy for Kiko - maybe a slight plus - I don't buy the argument that our defense was great last year without him... it's still an elite young talent going out the door - one which would've made our defense even better Incognito for Searcy - wash Kept Hughes - we're supposed to keep our own good players - wash adding Felton - I suppose a plus If we address TE (Clay) and upgrade guard and add a good linebacker, we could probably say we're better than last year from and overall talent perspective. However, none of these have happened yet. Right now, about the same as last year, with no first rounder... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 really ? rotflmao its over with no hope.. move the team fire everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 McCoy for Kiko - maybe a slight plus - I don't buy the argument that our defense was great last year without him... it's still an elite young talent going out the door - one which would've made our defense even better You don't buy it? Meaning it didn't happen? Was last year a mirage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All I Need is Hope Posted March 11, 2015 Author Share Posted March 11, 2015 Clarification GreggyT - they were great, but that doesn't make Kiko expendable in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Only 6 months to go too! Ahhhh Brb- Jordan gay is being interviewed on WGR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBills Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Very underwhelming so far. I don't think we've improved overall as far as talent level. Adding Clay, Harvin, and a starting OL will help that. Our coaching staff is exponentially better though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billstein22 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 ...our defense was great last year without him. It's not a wash, it's an objective fact that our defense isn't changed from this year to last year without him, by virtue of the fact that he didn't play last season. The comparison is McCoy vs. Spiller. That is clearly an improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Clarification GreggyT - they were great, but that doesn't make Kiko expendable in my opinion. Just having fun with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I know that it's very early in free agency, but some of the enthusiasm seems to have faded. So far, we're maybe breaking even when comparing last year's team to this years; specifically, - Cassell for Orton - maybe a slight plus McCoy for Kiko - maybe a slight plus - I don't buy the argument that our defense was great last year without him... it's still an elite young talent going out the door - one which would've made our defense even better Incognito for Searcy - wash Kept Hughes - we're supposed to keep our own good players - wash adding Felton - I suppose a plus If we address TE (Clay) and upgrade guard and add a good linebacker, we could probably say we're better than last year from and overall talent perspective. However, none of these have happened yet. Right now, about the same as last year, with no first rounder... My enthusiasm hasn't faded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Schick Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I know that it's very early in free agency, but some of the enthusiasm seems to have faded. So far, we're maybe breaking even when comparing last year's team to this years; specifically, - Cassell for Orton - maybe a slight plus McCoy for Kiko - maybe a slight plus - I don't buy the argument that our defense was great last year without him... it's still an elite young talent going out the door - one which would've made our defense even better Incognito for Searcy - wash Kept Hughes - we're supposed to keep our own good players - wash adding Felton - I suppose a plus If we address TE (Clay) and upgrade guard and add a good linebacker, we could probably say we're better than last year from and overall talent perspective. However, none of these have happened yet. Right now, about the same as last year, with no first rounder... If comparing the potential 2015 team to last year's, McCoy is a lot more than a "slight plus" over Kiko. Alonso didn't play a down. And keeping a UFA as good as Hughes deserves a little more credit than you're giving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 The QB is a slight improvement at best. Keeping Hughes was a big plus. One look around the NFL shows the reality that no team keeps all its good players. Any thought otherwise is nonsense. That was a big win. Alonso did not play last year, and the fact is indisputable that the D was excellent last year. The law of diminishing returns says Alonso could not possibly make the D much better. The RBs on this team were not effective, so getting an elite talent atRB is a big plus. That said, the Bills need to sign a TE, Harvin, and possibly an OL to truly make this FA period a success. They can get this done for sure. A LB can be added in the draft and is replaceable for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 How don't you buy the argument that our D was better last year with out kiko? It's a fact. Kiko didn't play. The defense ranked better across the board. Could it have been even better if kiko played? Probably. But there is no argument. This isn't a slight against kiko. Just stating a fact. I think we are better so far compared to last. shady is better than our backs last year incognito should be better than whatever we had there last year Coaching is not free agency or a trade but across the board it is better than last year so we should improve almost everywhere. cassel is = to Orton Felton is better than summers kiko didn't play so there's no gain or loss compared to last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobu Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 (edited) I know that it's very early in free agency, but some of the enthusiasm seems to have faded. So far, we're maybe breaking even when comparing last year's team to this years; specifically, - Cassell for Orton - maybe a slight plus McCoy for Kiko - maybe a slight plus - I don't buy the argument that our defense was great last year without him... it's still an elite young talent going out the door - one which would've made our defense even better Incognito for Searcy - wash Kept Hughes - we're supposed to keep our own good players - wash adding Felton - I suppose a plus If we address TE (Clay) and upgrade guard and add a good linebacker, we could probably say we're better than last year from and overall talent perspective. However, none of these have happened yet. Right now, about the same as last year, with no first rounder... As the previous poster alluded to, you are comparing apples to oranges. How do you compare a RB to a LB, a Guard to a safety??? Makes no friggin' sense. Edited March 11, 2015 by Show Me The Baby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bftvocal70 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 McCoy>CJ Cassel>Orton Rex>Maroon Roman>canthackett Kiko non factor last year We're way ahead of last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jo39416 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I find your opinions interesting and would like to subscribe to your newsletter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattsox Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I know that it's very early in free agency, but some of the enthusiasm seems to have faded. So far, we're maybe breaking even when comparing last year's team to this years; specifically, - Cassell for Orton - maybe a slight plus McCoy for Kiko - maybe a slight plus - I don't buy the argument that our defense was great last year without him... it's still an elite young talent going out the door - one which would've made our defense even better Incognito for Searcy - wash Kept Hughes - we're supposed to keep our own good players - wash adding Felton - I suppose a plus If we address TE (Clay) and upgrade guard and add a good linebacker, we could probably say we're better than last year from and overall talent perspective. However, none of these have happened yet. Right now, about the same as last year, with no first rounder... You're supposed to build through the draft... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessAccepted Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 As the previous poster alluded to, you are comparing apples to oranges. How do you compare a RB to a LB, a Guard to a safety??? Makes no friggin' sense. Resigning Hughes is a wash . The whole post is a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I'm surprised there are football fans that don't know just how special McCoy is at the position. A slight edge over Kiko? As much as I like Alonso's potential, that is just what it is at this point, potential; promise based on a decent rookie season. That just doesn't compare with the accomplishments McCoy has already achieved in the league. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I've been a Bills fan for a looooong time, and we've never had on off season this productive BEFORE we even got to free agency/draft. I'm super happy with the offseason so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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