EmotionallyUnstable Posted January 11, 2015 Author Share Posted January 11, 2015 Bring in one guy through the draft every year or two. Otherwise your team loses valuable quality depth through attrition. Consider how devastating Kiko's injury would have been for this team if not for Preston Brown. You can't commit the entire first and second day of the draft to a single position, regardless of which position, and field a playoff caliber team. If you do it right, you wouldn't need to do it every year. I agree that Whaley has been very spot on with later picks (woods, brown, kiko) but I would absolutely sacrifice depth (something you could add through FA) for a competent signal caller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 If you do it right, you wouldn't need to do it every year. I agree that Whaley has been very spot on with later picks (woods, brown, kiko) but I would absolutely sacrifice depth (something you could add through FA) for a competent signal callerDo it right like the Redskins when they took both RG3 and Cousins? Oh, wait... It's not actually that easy. So while we're loading up on QBs every year, we also get to overspend on veteran depth, which makes the cap situation untenable in short order, and leads to the inability to re-sign our high end home grown talent. You can't do what you're suggesting and field a competitive team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted January 11, 2015 Author Share Posted January 11, 2015 Do it right like the Redskins when they took both RG3 and Cousins? Oh, wait... It's not actually that easy. So while we're loading up on QBs every year, we also get to overspend on veteran depth, which makes the cap situation untenable in short order, and leads to the inability to re-sign our high end home grown talent. You can't do what you're suggesting and field a competitive team. You could if you hit on one of your picks. The point is that this year there is no free agent QBs that are worth the time. Other positions can be filled, depth in free agency. I'm not suggesting it every year. You make great points about over paid veteran talent. What would you like breakdown at QB to look like going into OTAs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogger Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 2nd round Bryce Petty. Nuff said. Agreed. But he's going to be the best QB at the senior bowl, so he will be a top 40 pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Agreed. But he's going to be the best QB at the senior bowl, so he will be a top 40 pick Worth grabbing . Got to keep picking till we get it right. I think he might still fall to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 I would hire a QB scout who just scouts the QB position and make drafting at least 1-2 per year until to hit on one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 You could if you hit on one of your picks. The point is that this year there is no free agent QBs that are worth the time. Other positions can be filled, depth in free agency. I'm not suggesting it every year. You make great points about over paid veteran talent. What would you like breakdown at QB to look like going into OTAs? "If you hit"... "If"... And that's a real big "if". In the last 5 years how many hits have their been league-wide? Not nearly enough to justify your strategy as a gamble, in my opinion. As for what I'd like to see as our QB situation going into OTAs? A veteran place-holder like a Ryan Mallet, Brian Hoyer, or Matt Moore; EJ Manuel; and a mid round pick. Going into the season I'd only want two of them on the 53 man roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 In a draft full of crappy QBs, spend all the picks on QBs. BRILLIANT! I'm curious. How do you give each enough time to know if any are worth a damn? The fix this year is Guard, IMO. That's a position they should be able to fix with numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Quarterback Idol. So You Think You Can Quarterback? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Exactly, for a number of years hear this argument about bringing in like 5 QB's or so. You'll then have 5 unprepared QB's with no idea if any of them are any good. From what I've read multiple times the #2 QB typically gets about five snaps a week with the first team once the regular season starts. Doesn't sound like a very good way to develop someone if you ask me. How do you give all of them, as well as EJ and whatever veteran you bring in, reps to develop, build familiarity with the first team receivers, and learn the offense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Wasting draft picks is not the answer. This year the draft is lacking in QB talent. Look at how many QBs wash out every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 If you draft that many QBs, how do you get them enough snaps to adequately develop any one of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted January 11, 2015 Author Share Posted January 11, 2015 Wasting draft picks is not the answer. This year the draft is lacking in QB talent. Look at how many QBs wash out every year. I feel like everyone shys away from addressing the issue at QB. If we want to be contenders, we need to find the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 If you draft that many QBs, how do you get them enough snaps to adequately develop any one of them? You can't. It's a moronic idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I feel like everyone shys away from addressing the issue at QB. If we want to be contenders, we need to find the guy. Not shying away but be smart about it. Bills were forced to draft EJ and the whole QB draft class has been underwhelming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 In a conversation I had with a friend (college FB coach), we were discussing the overwhelming need for good QB play. I proposed the question, would you trade all of your picks in 2015 for a suitable QB? He said yes, his reasoning: -QB is the most important position in football -there are no QBs in free agency worth a look - all other holes can be filled through free agency -if you select 2 or 3 QBs, you're more likely to land one A pretty far fetched idea, I know. But not the craziest thing I've heard. Thoughts? Do you mean like this idea? http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/175154-how-about-pulling-a-mike-dikta-type-of-deal/ Sounds like the same thing to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 In a conversation I had with a friend (college FB coach), we were discussing the overwhelming need for good QB play. I proposed the question, would you trade all of your picks in 2015 for a suitable QB? He said yes, his reasoning: -QB is the most important position in football -there are no QBs in free agency worth a look - all other holes can be filled through free agency -if you select 2 or 3 QBs, you're more likely to land one A pretty far fetched idea, I know. But not the craziest thing I've heard. Thoughts? I'm a little unclear on what you're suggesting. Are you suggesting: 1) packaging all our 2015 draft picks to try to "move up" and draft 1 QB we think has "it" - if so, what do you think we could move up to with our remaining 2015 picks? 2) using every draft pick to draft a QB 3) packaging all our 2015 draft picks to try to trade for a QB, again, if so who do you think we could trade for with our remaining 2015 picks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Are you suggesting a trade with another team, or using all of the picks on QBs? There are many of us who want the Bills to take a QB or two every year. which means you have to cut one or two a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I'm a little unclear on what you're suggesting. Are you suggesting: 1) packaging all our 2015 draft picks to try to "move up" and draft 1 QB we think has "it" - if so, what do you think we could move up to with our remaining 2015 picks? 2) using every draft pick to draft a QB 3) packaging all our 2015 draft picks to try to trade for a QB, again, if so who do you think we could trade for with our remaining 2015 picks? Does it really matter. They are all stupid ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 OR they can draft a guy they believe in, get him legit NFL coaches, let him play throw the ups and downs, and develop properly. But fans don't have time for that. Aaron Rodgers might have been called a bust if he had to play his first 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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