Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) Hackett actually designs some pretty good plays. I'm 100% convinced that Hackett runs Marrone's offense as a philosophy, as well as who plays and the groupings (again as a philosophy or base offense, not on a play by play decision). I don't know this, but it's entirely possible that on his own he's not as conservative. He's also young and can get better. If it's Marrone's offense and Saint Doug is still in charge, it wouldn't matter too much if Hackett is no longer here and a new guy is brought in. Crossman was in the line of fire, they go out and load up on special teams. Lets see if they keep Hackett do they load up at OL. You could sign very good OG for cheap contracts, like the Chris Williams contract, Williams just isnt any good. Sign a couple OGs. Edited December 9, 2014 by TheTruthHurts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Doesn't matter without a QB or line We have most of a line, that's the easy part. QB? We need some magic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Gus Malzahn or Kevin Sumlin. Of course these guy are head coaching material Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 If Jay Gruden gets canned I'd be interested in him. ? Nice topic!! I want an offense that changes tempo and formation. I guess what I want is a well designed offense which I don't think that the Bills have at all (although it was better yesterday). I want motion and mismatches created before the ball is snapped. Maybe Scott Frost from Oregon? I really could care less how long the guy's resume is. His philosophy is most important to me. Exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) Nice topic!! I want an offense that changes tempo and formation. I guess what I want is a well designed offense which I don't think that the Bills have at all (although it was better yesterday). I want motion and mismatches created before the ball is snapped. Maybe Scott Frost from Oregon? I really could care less how long the guy's resume is. His philosophy is most important to me. What you want is a QB. In order to run that offense you need the QB or Chip Kelly. I dont think there is another Chip Kelly. There are good offenses, but Kelly is just a master at play calling and most importantly preparation. Edited December 9, 2014 by TheTruthHurts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webster Guy Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Doesn't matter without a QB or line sad but true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st pete gogolak Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 If firing Hackett isn't a possibilty, how about bringing in a "consultant" like they did in 2004 with Dick LeBeau (number one ranked defense that year). Someone with some experience. I'd be happy with Chan Gailey or Mike Martz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC2002 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 We have most of a line, that's the easy part. QB? We need some magic! I would say throwing on 3rd and 1 inside the 30 says no we dont have a OLine and its not the easy part . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) If firing Hackett isn't a possibilty, how about bringing in a "consultant" like they did in 2004 with Dick LeBeau (number one ranked defense that year). Someone with some experience. I'd be happy with Chan Gailey or Mike Martz. Isnt that Jim Hostler? Marrones boys. Edited December 9, 2014 by TheTruthHurts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 What you want is a QB. In order to run that offense you need the QB or Chip Kelly. I dont think there is another Chip Kelly. There are good offenses, but Kelly is just a master at play calling and most importantly preparation. Everyone wants a QB. There are guys doing exactly what I was referring to in Briles, Urban, Malzahn, Sumlin and Helfrich. Obviously none of those guys are OC options. That's why I threw another name out there. The game is won and lost before the ball is snapped in football today. I believe with all of the information and technology that guys can create these opportunities if they have the right guy designing it. If you know a defense's tendencies (which they all do) you can put people in positions to do what they do worst. It's not just about what you do best but also what the opposition struggles with. That's what is different now than 20 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) Everyone wants a QB. There are guys doing exactly what I was referring to in Briles, Urban, Malzahn, Sumlin and Helfrich. Obviously none of those guys are OC options. That's why I threw another name out there. The game is won and lost before the ball is snapped in football today. I believe with all of the information and technology that guys can create these opportunities if they have the right guy designing it. If you know a defense's tendencies (which they all do) you can put people in positions to do what they do worst. It's not just about what you do best but also what the opposition struggles with. That's what is different now than 20 years ago. This is the guy you want. Load up the Brinks truck. The next Chip Kelly. I would make him head coach, but Im crazy. http://espn.go.com/b...nd-baylors-rise Edited December 9, 2014 by TheTruthHurts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 It will be Marrone,Hackett and Orton/Manuel. No! I don't hear you! (Fingers in ears) La La La La In all seriousness, this is the answer. We just need a guy with more experience. Hackett may end up being good, but he is in way over his head at this point in his career. Amen Rob Chudzinski. Here in Charlotte we watched him Cam's first year was good. He definitely isn't afraid to push the ball down field. Cam's second year he was heavy option and the offense looked like crap till they got away from it. Also, apparently he is a SUPER Weeny which is the main reason he got canned after one season in Cleveland. Not sure if that matters as OC when you only crap on players but as a HC he ticked everyone off. GOTTA be better than Hackett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 This is the guy you want. Load up the Brinks truck. The next Chip Kelly. I would make him head coach, but Im crazy. http://espn.go.com/b...nd-baylors-rise That's EXACTLY the kind of guy that I want. He's the kind of guy that you may have a shot at. Sign me up!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 That's EXACTLY the kind of guy that I want. He's the kind of guy that you may have a shot at. Sign me up!! There is talk if Jay Gruden gets fired Briles and Montgomery going to coach RG3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 It won't matter if Marrone is the HC. It wont matter if the offensive line isn't fixed That's EXACTLY the kind of guy that I want. He's the kind of guy that you may have a shot at. Sign me up!! why all the chip kelly stuff...its another offense that beats the truly bad and gets nothing on the good teams..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 why all the chip kelly stuff...its another offense that beats the truly bad and gets nothing on the good teams..... I disagree on this. Kelly has Mark Sanchez playing QB and playing well. He is getting a lot out of mediocre talent. If you gave Chip Kelly Denver's players they'd average 55 points a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 I disagree on this. Kelly has Mark Sanchez playing QB and playing well. He is getting a lot out of mediocre talent. If you gave Chip Kelly Denver's players they'd average 55 points a game. The Eagles are the ultimatel flat track bullies. Is that the offensive scheme or the talent? I'm not sure.... I saw some analysis of some of their plays from the Seahawks game the other day and they seem to have a very small play book, it is the same formations and the same plays over and over it is just hard to read them because they often look the same to all extents and purposes at the snap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bananathumb Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Trestman if the Bears fire him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishDave Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Hackett actually designs some pretty good plays. I'm 100% convinced that Hackett runs Marrone's offense as a philosophy, as well as who plays and the groupings (again as a philosophy or base offense, not on a play by play decision). I don't know this, but it's entirely possible that on his own he's not as conservative. He's also young and can get better. This is what I keep telling myself. He does seem to be making progress in some areas, which is encouraging. It just feels like he might be too far away yet. The guy will probably be really good one day, but how far off is that? And how much more suffering would we have to endure before he reached a point where he would be a true asset on this team instead of a liability? Find me a coach who had experience playing quarterback at the NFL level or at least at a big time college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 This is what I keep telling myself. He does seem to be making progress in some areas, which is encouraging. It just feels like he might be too far away yet. The guy will probably be really good one day, but how far off is that? And how much more suffering would we have to endure before he reached a point where he would be a true asset on this team instead of a liability? Find me a coach who had experience playing quarterback at the NFL level or at least at a big time college. How many OCs in the league today are former NFL or NCAA QBs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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