Doc Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 I'm curious to hear what he says about Winston as an NFL prospect, and how he turns out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 EJ was drafted for his potential, IMO, not the QB he was at the time he left FSU. I doubt he was meant to start right out of the gate. It was a poor year for QBs, and Geno is a brick with limited upside, so... They also swung another pick out of the deal, which makes EJ, Woods, and Kiko a decent haul for what equaled the Bills first and second round pick prior to the trade. IMO, benching EJ is as much about salvaging the season in a down year in the AFCE as it is about not destroying the last shred of confidence he has. Due to his own inexperience and our OL's shoddy play, SD's and Houston's D mauled him... what would throwing him to the Lions prove? Orton is Fitz is Kolb. A placeholder/benchmark to measure progress. If EJ can't develop beyond that benchmark, they move on from him, but to say they've moved on after 14 games, when most considered him raw from the start... I doubt it. Also, good luck recruiting talent in the future, Fisher, if it's that important for you to be able to say I told you so when your players fail. Total dick move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Child? What did I say that wasn't spot on correct? The decisions made by Nix and Jauron, along with their "be calm, all is well" demeanor directly led to why we are STILL struggling, especially at QB! If that thought process is "childish," I'll go suck my thumb! It's more the tone and the crudeness, which this board is generally free of (thankfully). Whaley was in all likelihood the guy behind drafting Manuel anyway given what we know about the process in winter/spring 2013. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Daddy Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Kolb slips on mat, bills plans to have EJ sit, watch and learn went up in smoke. Hopefully he can now learn from Orton for a while and try again. If fails again, out he goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acantha Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 It's more the tone and the crudeness, which this board is generally free of (thankfully). Whaley was in all likelihood the guy behind drafting Manuel anyway given what we know about the process in winter/spring 2013. I think the Marrone hire and Manuel pick are unknowns. I'm sure Whaley had his say, but I don't think there's anything out there that says he was in charge of those decisions despite Nix still being the GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Let's continue to kick the dead horse. EJ was pulled. Let's move on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 At least there was one new thing said about EJ in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acantha Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Also, good luck recruiting talent in the future, Fisher, if it's that important for you to be able to say I told you so when your players fail. Total dick move. Not sure where the title of this thread came from. The article says this info is "according to sources." As far as I've seen, Fisher hasn't publicly said anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 (edited) Important to note: Jimbo Fisher did not recruit Manuel, who began playing whwn Bowden was still the coach. Edited October 5, 2014 by dave mcbride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 I'm curious to hear what he says about Winston as an NFL prospect, and how he turns out. If Winston did not redshirt. Manuel would not have started in is last year at FSU.he NFL is a crapshoot, Winston may not even get drafted, if he keeps it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 5, 2014 Author Share Posted October 5, 2014 If Winston did not redshirt. Manuel would not have started in is last year at FSU. he NFL is a crapshoot, Winston may not even get drafted, if he keeps it up. he was redshirted by the coaches, not himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMannn Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Scary fact in the Buffalo News this past week: Any NFL QB drafted in the first round since 2007, once benched never became a full time starter again. Wow.................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2003Contenders Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Were the Bills sold on EJ as a franchise QB? Absolutely not. If they had been, they would have drafted him with the #8 pick and not made the risk the trade down. Where I think the front office failed -- and in this case I blame Nix, as it was obvious in his pre-draft quotes -- is that the Bills seemed bound-set-and-determined to draft a QB in the first round. The infamous Nix recording illustrates that the team had no illusions to the fact that the draft was a very weak one for QBs. In the final analysis, they took a gamble on EJ, believing that he had the intangibles to be the best QB in the very weak class. Thanks to the new CBA, if he never pans out, the misfire will not set the franchise back for years and years. The book isn't shut yet on Manuel either, IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 When I saw the last drive vs. San Diego, it was all that I needed to see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Were the Bills sold on EJ as a franchise QB? Absolutely not. If they had been, they would have drafted him with the #8 pick and not made the risk the trade down. That makes no sense. You draft a guy based on where you think he's valued by other teams. They must not've thought he would go in picks 9-15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Duck EJ Duck! More slings and arrows coming your way as Marrone predicted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Jimbo Fisher is defending a rapist. I could give a !@#$ what he says. He is scum just like his QB. He represents all that is wrong with college football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ (not THAT RJ) Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Jimbo Fisher is defending a rapist. I could give a !@#$ what he says. He is scum just like his QB. He represents all that is wrong with college football. Preach on, brother! Low class CYA move by a low class man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 5, 2014 Author Share Posted October 5, 2014 Preach on, brother! Low class CYA move by a low class man. Urban Meyer STILL says he thinks Tim Tebow can be an NFL QB. Everyone laughs at him, but it is a total d*ck move for Fisher to say this now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ (not THAT RJ) Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Urban Meyer STILL says he thinks Tim Tebow can be an NFL QB. Everyone laughs at him, but it is a total d*ck move for Fisher to say this now. Quite so. It's obvious that he's doing it to allow him to hype Winston, the rapist. Terrible all around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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