BillsFan-4-Ever Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Can the Bills go 9-7? Why yes, yes they can! Go Bills!! what he said Playoffs, really guys? Can we at least wait to see if Orton can still play. He will be going up against the #1 defense in the league at Detroit, and for some reason the Bills gave up on the idea leading the league in rushing again this year. It has been since 2011 when Orton last was a full time starter. He started the season for the Bronco's, and went 1-4. Tebow then replaced him, and took Denver to the playoffs. Not the other way around. He then went to KC that same year, and went 2-1 with them. For some reason the Chiefs didn't retain him, and he left for Dallas. In 2012 he had no game starts. In 2013 he had one game start, and lost. I don't get why this QB is looked on as a savior, when it looks like an act of desperation to me. its a joke !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
negativo Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Playoffs, really guys? Can we at least wait to see if Orton can still play. He will be going up against the #1 defense in the league at Detroit, and for some reason the Bills gave up on the idea leading the league in rushing again this year. It has been since 2011 when Orton last was a full time starter. He started the season for the Bronco's, and went 1-4. Tebow then replaced him, and took Denver to the playoffs. Not the other way around. He then went to KC that same year, and went 2-1 with them. For some reason the Chiefs didn't retain him, and he left for Dallas. In 2012 he had no game starts. In 2013 he had one game start, and lost. I don't get why this QB is looked on as a savior, when it looks like an act of desperation to me. Who ever said Orton is a savior? Everyone agrees he's just a journeyman with adequate skills. Thing is, EJ was SO bad that adequate journeyman is an improvement by comparison. Not a savior, but an improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 We need KW and Nigel to be ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 An average Pats* team is finally showing Tom Bradys true colors - and it aint pretty!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Crappy divisions are so much more fun than great ones. My most likely scenario: Pats pull it together enough to go 9-7 (or even 10-6) and win it as usual. But if that doesn't happen? A total crapshoot. Pats could still go 8-8. Geno Smith could be benched and Vick could have one last 6-game run in him. Orton could be just enough better than Manuel to get the Bills, with strong D, to 8-8. Tannehill was about to be EJ'd a week ago; one game against the Raiders and he's the QB of the future again. Miami looks like an 8-8 team too. Somebody's got to win it ... why not us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 quite honestly, looking at our schedule and everyone else's schedules in this division, 8-8 might cut it. (as crazy as that sounds) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Playoffs, really guys? Can we at least wait to see if Orton can still play. He will be going up against the #1 defense in the league at Detroit, and for some reason the Bills gave up on the idea leading the league in rushing again this year. It has been since 2011 when Orton last was a full time starter. He started the season for the Bronco's, and went 1-4. Tebow then replaced him, and took Denver to the playoffs. Not the other way around. He then went to KC that same year, and went 2-1 with them. For some reason the Chiefs didn't retain him, and he left for Dallas. In 2012 he had no game starts. In 2013 he had one game start, and lost. I don't get why this QB is looked on as a savior, when it looks like an act of desperation to me. Playoffs, really guys? Can we at least wait to see if Orton can still play. He will be going up against the #1 defense in the league at Detroit, and for some reason the Bills gave up on the idea leading the league in rushing again this year. It has been since 2011 when Orton last was a full time starter. He started the season for the Bronco's, and went 1-4. Tebow then replaced him, and took Denver to the playoffs. Not the other way around. He then went to KC that same year, and went 2-1 with them. For some reason the Chiefs didn't retain him, and he left for Dallas. In 2012 he had no game starts. In 2013 he had one game start, and lost. I don't get why this QB is looked on as a savior, when it looks like an act of desperation to me. he probably is not a savior. The fanbase wants results (obviously after 14+ years of pure suck)What Orton probably wouldn't do is lob a 4 yard marshmallow in JJ Watts arms though. Playoff talk is silly. Wheres the fun in a 53-3 creaming in a wild card game? id rather suck and get a great position for a first round pick. Wait? Huh......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l< j Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Find 7 more likely wins: 10/05 @ Detroit Lions 10/12 New England Patriots 10/19 Minnesota Vikings 10/26 @ New York Jets 11/09 Kansas City Chiefs 11/13 @ Miami Dolphins 11/23 New York Jets 11/30 Cleveland Browns 12/07 @ Denver Broncos 12/14 Green Bay Packers 12/21 @ Oakland Raiders 12/28 @ New England Patriots Oakland is 1. We have 5 division games left, and this defense (assuming that the injuries suffered Sunday don't change the lineup) gives me hope for 3 or maybe even 4. Green Bay, Denver, KC, and Detroit are unlikely. Before the season, I thought the Browns would be bad, but they are playing tough and staying in or winning games I'd thought they wouldn't. And I don't know what to think about Vikings. Of course, the league is so unpredictable. No team is the same in November that it was in September. It should be an interesting ride. If we can get competent QB play (meaning the OL keeps him upright and the OC has a decent scheme so that the QB has a chance to impact the game), we have a chance--neither particularly strong or weak chance--to get to 9 wins. kj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Find 7 more likely wins: 10/05 @ Detroit Lions 10/12 New England Patriots 10/19 Minnesota Vikings 10/26 @ New York Jets 11/09 Kansas City Chiefs 11/13 @ Miami Dolphins 11/23 New York Jets 11/30 Cleveland Browns 12/07 @ Denver Broncos 12/14 Green Bay Packers 12/21 @ Oakland Raiders 12/28 @ New England Patriots Oakland is 1. We have 5 division games left, and this defense (assuming that the injuries suffered Sunday don't change the lineup) gives me hope for 3 or maybe even 4. Green Bay, Denver, KC, and Detroit are unlikely. Before the season, I thought the Browns would be bad, but they are playing tough and staying in or winning games I'd thought they wouldn't. And I don't know what to think about Vikings. Of course, the league is so unpredictable. No team is the same in November that it was in September. It should be an interesting ride. If we can get competent QB play (meaning the OL keeps him upright and the OC has a decent scheme so that the QB has a chance to impact the game), we have a chance--neither particularly strong or weak chance--to get to 9 wins. kj there's 7, make the NYETS a sweep and it's 8. and IF the Putrids are truly done ..... make it 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Can the Bills go 9-7? Not if they win 10 games first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 New England will go 9-7. If we go 9-7 does it go the split against them and then general divisonal record? (so if we were say 0-2 v the Pats but 4-2 in the division and they were 2-0 v us and 3-3 overall would that favour us or them? ) I'm never sure on that tie break. Anyway.. 9-7.... and 4-2 in the division might be enough I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
negativo Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Find 7 more likely wins: 10/05 @ Detroit Lions 10/12 New England Patriots 10/19 Minnesota Vikings 10/26 @ New York Jets 11/09 Kansas City Chiefs 11/13 @ Miami Dolphins 11/23 New York Jets 11/30 Cleveland Browns 12/07 @ Denver Broncos 12/14 Green Bay Packers 12/21 @ Oakland Raiders 12/28 @ New England Patriots Oakland is 1. We have 5 division games left, and this defense (assuming that the injuries suffered Sunday don't change the lineup) gives me hope for 3 or maybe even 4. Green Bay, Denver, KC, and Detroit are unlikely. Before the season, I thought the Browns would be bad, but they are playing tough and staying in or winning games I'd thought they wouldn't. And I don't know what to think about Vikings. Of course, the league is so unpredictable. No team is the same in November that it was in September. It should be an interesting ride. If we can get competent QB play (meaning the OL keeps him upright and the OC has a decent scheme so that the QB has a chance to impact the game), we have a chance--neither particularly strong or weak chance--to get to 9 wins. kj 8 wins will do it, imo. We got as good a shot as anyone in the AFC Least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 The next 8 games will decide it. I think we need 5 wins minimum, more likely we would need 6 from those 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewildrabbit Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Who ever said Orton is a savior? Everyone agrees he's just a journeyman with adequate skills. Thing is, EJ was SO bad that adequate journeyman is an improvement by comparison. Not a savior, but an improvement. An improvement remains to be seen. From what I'm reading this QB change has fans thinking it was ALL the QB, and its not. Changing the QB isn't going change the play calls for 44 passes vs 20 runs. Nor will it upgrade the run game in the red zone or short yardage, and it isn't going to fix the OG position. So, what happens if Orton falls on his face? What then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
negativo Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 An improvement remains to be seen. From what I'm reading this QB change has fans thinking it was ALL the QB, and its not. Changing the QB isn't going change the play calls for 44 passes vs 20 runs. Nor will it upgrade the run game in the red zone or short yardage, and it isn't going to fix the OG position. So, what happens if Orton falls on his face? What then? If Orton falls on his face it'll be no loss. EJ was horrific. That said, Orton is a known entity. He'll be mediocre, but not a complete disaster. In this situation, mediocrity is the better option. If somehow he's even worse than EJ (is that possible?), you could always trot out Manuel to suck again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 An improvement remains to be seen. From what I'm reading this QB change has fans thinking it was ALL the QB, and its not. Changing the QB isn't going change the play calls for 44 passes vs 20 runs. Nor will it upgrade the run game in the red zone or short yardage, and it isn't going to fix the OG position. So, what happens if Orton falls on his face? What then? That is all correct. The rest of the offense and offensive coaches got a pass. They need to step up now or else they will be worried about being next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 the AFC East is WIDE OPEN !! A better way to put this is: The AFCE sucks. When the Bills make the playoffs we will get zero credit for being the saddest clown to suck less Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 A better way to put this is: The AFCE sucks. When the Bills make the playoffs we will get zero credit for being the saddest clown to suck less I'm cool with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 A better way to put this is: The AFCE sucks. When the Bills make the playoffs we will get zero credit for being the saddest clown to suck less i'll take it... and mention that the NFC South & AFC South have less wins than the AFC East. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Worth noting: We are not only still on top of the division, we are also the only team in our division with positive net points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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