KDIGGZ Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 I've been waiting for the Pats to be bad for a long time. Let's see how "great" of a coach Belicheat is without the best QB in the game. The tide is turning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 They're still favorites to win the division, so I'm not cheering their demise yet. Lets see what happens when we play each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 I understand your point, it's not complicated, it's just not the point my comment was referring too! YOU answered my post with a side track. MY POST referred to people gloating over Tom Brady's struggles, when the guy has OWNED this franchise for his whole career, AND THE BILLS HAVEN"T EVEN PLAYED THEM THIS SEASON. I want the Bills to win every time, but for me and plenty of other fans, finally finishing ahead of the Pats in the standings only after Brady is ancient is NOT enough to to make me gloat about how Brady sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Clowney hasn't been beating up the Bills for a decade! He's not saying that about Brady being out of his prime either. Ridiculous! I understand your point, it's not complicated, it's just not the point my comment was referring too! YOU answered my post with a side track. MY POST referred to people gloating over Tom Brady's struggles, when the guy has OWNED this franchise for his whole career, AND THE BILLS HAVEN"T EVEN PLAYED THEM THIS SEASON. I want the Bills to win every time, but for me and plenty of other fans, finally finishing ahead of the Pats in the standings only after Brady is ancient is NOT enough to to make me gloat about how Brady sucks. Bills win = who cares as long as they beat the Pats! Brady will still be on the field! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Gloat away boys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 (edited) So EJ at his best is similar to Brady at his worst. You may be right, actually. and we all know that even at his worst Brady can win games. ergo Even with a poor EJ the Bills have the means to win. EJ wasn't great but he was far from horrific to where people can blame him solely. The secondary killed the team v the Chargers. Edited September 23, 2014 by BillsFan-4-Ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffOrange Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 It is true that NE's demise has been predicted way too many times in the past. But Dan Lebatard is right on this - Brady's decline is happening right in front of us but it's almost imperceptible because he's still good (and the rest of the division still has squat for a QB which incredibly, has been the case since the Colts were re-aligned to the South). The OL/WR explanations have some merit but it's a bit overdone, they're not the '76 Bucs. He had a great OL and running game last yr & two great TE's the year before. From what I've seen his protection is in fact worse this yr, but FFS, Mankins is a run blocking Guard, not Anthony Munoz. Manning lost his pro bowl LT before last yr and didn't miss him until February. I know 12 doesn't have Thomas or Thomas, big deal, he didn't have them pre Moss either. Make all the excuses you want but the guy just doesn't throw well downfield anymore. Like zow said, the division is there for the taking, but...facepalm. Man I would kill for an average QB right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 I know you did not mean it this way so don't react incorrectly to my comments: Brady has shown an ability to pick a team up and carry it on his back. EJ has not consistently shown that he can get first downs much less impose his will on an opposing D. So, be cautious in celebration here because for right now the odds are more in favor of Brady turning it around than they are in EJ's favor of becoming a good (much less an elite) QB. Maybe Brady somehow has less desire and will to win. I just doubt that he has hit the physical wall as hard as we all hope for. I agreeEJ has not consistently shown that . He may yet or not. But week 3 into his second season and not yet 1 full seasons experience is too early to pull the plug on EJ. Brett Favre and Steve Young both QB's who's original team thought were nobodies .. Young http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Young#Tampa_Bay_Buccaneers the Buccaneers posted 2–14 records in each of Young's two seasons Favre He only attempted four passes in his career at Atlanta, was intercepted twice, and completed none of them well Favre is the poorer example Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 (edited) That's why this season is so critical for Buffalo New York. NE is in decline and mediocre. Miami and the Jets Bills are average teams... Heard all over NYC sports radio today. Point being, it's wide open and everyone (other than Miami) rightly thinks they have a shot. I lived in Boston before their first *Championship, there were zero *Patriot fans walking around in gear that fall. Most Boston peeps are actually Giant fans. It's strange, but not unexpected. The *pats became popular once they started to win but they can't come close to touching the Red Sox love, Celtic love, or even Bruin love that Boston sports fans have in their hearts. It's even more infuriating when you live 45 minutes from Manhattan! 20 years ago the Pats* barely cracked the top 10 in terms of gear you saw in my area. Steelers, Cowboys, 49ers, Redskins, Dolphins, etc. were all more popular. Now every other idiot has a Pats sticker on their car. Edited September 23, 2014 by KD in CT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrod's Tailor Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 (edited) It's even more infuriating when you live 45 minutes from Manhattan! 20 years ago the Pats* barely would have cracked the top 10 in terms of gear you saw in my area. Steelers, Cowboys, 49ers, Redskins, Dolphins, etc. were all more popular. Now every other idiot has a Pats sticker on their car. The scourge has hit downtown NYC. There's no escape until we're rid of the Brady/Belichick menace. Edited September 23, 2014 by billsfaninmanhattan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 It's even more infuriating when you live 45 minutes from Manhattan! 20 years ago the Pats* barely cracked the top 10 in terms of gear you saw in my area. Steelers, Cowboys, 49ers, Redskins, Dolphins, etc. were all more popular. Now every other idiot has a Pats sticker on their car. That's the worst! I feel your pain. At least in LA I don't have to see much *patriot gear. I see more Bills gear out here than *patriot stuff. I'm not sure how much of the Bills gear is worn ironically by hipsters though... but I'll take it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthymcnasty08 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 I eat the tears of Pats fans..... delicious! NUMNUMNUMNUM!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 They will hit their stride right before October 12th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playman Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Give Tom Sammy Watkins, Mike Williams, Robert Woods, CJ Spiller, and Fred Jackson then see what kind of numbers he would put up. I bet he'd still be lauded as Tom Terrific right now. thats an idea.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 I might get flamed for this, but I am not passing judgement on Brady until the seasons ends. Didn't he do something similar to this last year? Safe money is the guy comes into form through the backend of the season. God I hope he doesn't, but I think there is something left in the tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Considering most have been fans since 2001, this is the worst they have ever seen. What a pathetic bandwagon group of fans. As miserable as we are, no one will ever say Bills fans aren't diehards. And the Seattle fans are starting to get real annoying too. You didn't invent the 12th man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 EJ wasn't great but he was far from horrific to where people can blame him solely. I get a real chuckle reading how we were able to beat Miami because all three phases of the game were successful. However, when all three phases of the game schitt the bed like it did against the Chargers, we lost because of EJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 I feel bad for the true Pats fans out there that cheered on Gogan, Plunkett, and so many other Patriot miserable seasons. I feel bad for those guys that saw their team finally get to the Super Bowl and had to cheer on the likes of an uber douche outshone by even more d-bags on D. The 01-04 Pats were a great team but then to cheer them on only to find out they cheated, I just can't imagine how you justify it? Who I cannot stand are the Pats fans they showed up and justify the cheating by a typical D-bag statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormin Norman Posted September 23, 2014 Author Share Posted September 23, 2014 (edited) Hey all. The original post wasn't to gloat about the demise of Brady or to have my euphoria at a Bills victory (hopefully) over NE diminished by the perception that he is in decline. It was to give everyone a little chuckle that Patriot fans are grappling with the same stuff we are. Quite honestly, my going-in outlook is that New England is still the king of the hill and Brady is still potentially god-like as an NFL quarterback until proven otherwise. That only changes via Bills wins. There is no other remedy. Edited September 23, 2014 by Stormin Norman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 They will hit their stride right before October 12th Game one Miami had a healthy run attack and ran all over the pats and beat them. The pats then run into a no Adrian Peterson vikes squad and then the raiders. Now they get the chiefs who have a hell of a run attack that will look better with charles back. Then the Bengals who are coming off a bye and 3 straight wins...they held that falcons offense to 10 points. I could see the pats losing the next two and if we want this division we need to smell blood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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