keepthefaith Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 It won't happen before the election, then depending on the results of the election Obama will determine what route he wants to go. The decision will be made based on politics, not what's right for the country or world. Bingo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 It won't happen before the election, then depending on the results of the election Obama will determine what route he wants to go. The decision will be made based on politics, not what's right for the country or world. Hardly a courageous prediction, given that to not do so would be a break with every single decision he's made during his presidency. Hell, even the decision to go after bin Laden was based on politics, and that was as much a no-brainer of a decision as we'll ever see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 It won't happen before the election, then depending on the results of the election Obama will determine what route he wants to go. The decision will be made based on politics, not what's right for the country or world. Remember back in the days of Hope & Change when rainbow farting unicorn was billed as a different kind of politician? In this case, he is a very different kind of politician from George W Bush. Bush would make a decision, usually the wrong decision, without putting much thought into the political repurcussions Obama goes golfing, consults his pollster, gives a speech about how its not his fault the bad thing happened. Then he goes golfing, waits until after the election, and blames Congress if his strategy goes wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Remember back in the days of Hope & Change when rainbow farting unicorn was billed as a different kind of politician? In this case, he is a very different kind of politician from George W Bush. Bush would make a decision, usually the wrong decision, without putting much thought into the political repurcussions Obama goes golfing, consults his pollster, gives a speech about how its not his fault the bad thing happened. Then he goes golfing, waits until after the election, and blames Congress if his strategy goes wrong. Stop defending Bush! [/gatorman] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Obama slaps down top general and insists there will be NO combat boots on the ground in battle against ISIS as he rallies troops at air base http://www.dailymail...leadership.html I'm nowhere near the political hawk that some of you are, so I ask this to those in the know: what was the last administration to be so screwed up internally on foreign policy? I'm not talking about bad foreign policy. I'm talking about the president saying one thing one day about whether we''re at war, Chief of Staff saying something different, generals saying something even more different, and then they do it again regarding boots on the ground. It's truly bizarre to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 I'm nowhere near the political hawk that some of you are, so I ask this to those in the know: what was the last administration to be so screwed up internally on foreign policy? I'm not talking about bad foreign policy. I'm talking about the president saying one thing one day about whether we''re at war, Chief of Staff saying something different, generals saying something even more different, and then they do it again regarding boots on the ground. It's truly bizarre to me. And related, I assume this President is one of the least respected in modern history among military brass, but perhaps one of our military scholars could comment on that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 I'm nowhere near the political hawk that some of you are, so I ask this to those in the know: what was the last administration to be so screwed up internally on foreign policy? I'm not talking about bad foreign policy. I'm talking about the president saying one thing one day about whether we''re at war, Chief of Staff saying something different, generals saying something even more different, and then they do it again regarding boots on the ground. I was born during the Eisenhower years, and to date, this is the most inconsistent administration with regard to foreign policy by far. there have been some serious foreign policy mistakes over those years, but nothing in terms of the wishy washy posturing of the current administration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Stop defending adoring Bush! [/gatorman] Get the wording right. I was born during the Eisenhower years, and to date, this is the most inconsistent administration with regard to foreign policy by far. there have been some serious foreign policy mistakes over those years, but nothing in terms of the wishy washy posturing of the current administration. Finally someone here to make me feel young. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Finally someone here to make me feel young. Thank you. get off my lawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Stop defending Bush! [/gatorman] Why? Because in his love of Bush he 'forgot' to mention Bush's wrong decisions have led to thousands of dead and wounded Americans soldiers to trillions of dollars of wasted? Funny how you didn't notice that obvious failure of omission... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Why? Because in his love of Bush he 'forgot' to mention Bush's wrong decisions have led to thousands of dead and wounded Americans soldiers to trillions of dollars of wasted? Funny how you didn't notice that obvious failure of omission... I didn't notice because he didn't forget. It wasn't relevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Why? Because in his love of Bush he 'forgot' to mention Bush's wrong decisions have led to thousands of dead and wounded Americans soldiers to trillions of dollars of wasted? Funny how you didn't notice that obvious failure of omission... I love how in your world (which has been mentioned several times) saying Bush is not as bad as Obama makes it a love affair for Bush. I really don't like hitting my thumb with a hammer but that doesn't mean I love sticking an ice pick in my eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 November 5th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 get off my lawn. Your movie quote reminds me, its been 4 months since I placed my order with The CMP for a Garand. I wonder when that box full of thirty-aught-six kick ass will arrive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Your movie quote reminds me, its been 4 months since I placed my order with The CMP for a Garand. I wonder when that box full of thirty-aught-six kick ass will arrive So you got ammo [or ordered ] from CMP? Price? What vintage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Your movie quote reminds me, its been 4 months since I placed my order with The CMP for a Garand. I didn't mean to quote a movie....what movie is it from? I'm old. I say that to people all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 I didn't mean to quote a movie....what movie is it from? The Sound of Music, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 The Sound of Music, I think. No, I think that's from the original Jazz Singer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 The Sound of Music, I think. It is what Captain Von Trapp should have told Rolfe little punk sniffing around his 16 (going on 17) year old daughter. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 I didn't mean to quote a movie....what movie is it from? I'm old. I say that to people all the time. Grand Torino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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