B-Man Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 (edited) Obama White House Keeps Trying to Throw the Intel Community Under the Bus over ISIS, Media Not Buying It Obama Blames Intel Community for ‘Underestimating’ ISIS, Intel Community Begs to Differ .WHO COULD HAVE SEEN THIS COMING: Lines blur for US troops in fight against ISIS. “President Obama insists he will not have ‘boots on the ground’ in the fight against the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS), but the line between a combat and advisory role is blurry.” . Edited September 30, 2014 by B-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Obama White House Keeps Trying to Throw the Intel Community Under the Bus over ISIS, Media Not Buying It Obama Blames Intel Community for ‘Underestimating’ ISIS, Intel Community Begs to Differ The "entertaining" thing in all this is watching him insist that "HE" did nothing wrong, but "THEY" screwed up and let him down. Even better, this time... Well I think, our head of the intelligence community, Jim Clapper, has acknowledged that I think they underestimated what had been taking place in Syria. Read that very carefully. Not "the intelligent community failed." But "I didn't fail, the intelligence community failed me." The intelligence community gave him bad advice, and are now admitting to him that he himself knows better than they do. He's an egomaniacal narcissist that always takes the credit, and pins the blame on everyone else. The mark of a very, very, VERY ****ty leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 He's an egomaniacal narcissist that always takes the credit, and pins the blame on everyone else. The mark of a very, very, VERY ****ty leader. More evidence of my earlier assertions that Obama is the stereotypical 'worst employee' in the office. His failures are always someone else's fault. He didn't know, or wasn't told, or was misinformed, or didn't anticipate, etc. A million reasons why they're unable to do their job effectively, and none of those reasons assume personal fault. Then again, his career was built on affirmative action and the opening of sealed divorce docs, so no thinking person should be surprised at what we're seeing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 . I printed that out and taped it to my office door. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 (edited) http://youtu.be/gzRBD54m3e0 Defense contractor's stocks are virtually unchanged from three months ago, you idiot. Edited October 1, 2014 by DC Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Bush Says Some U.S. Forces Should Have Stayed in Iraq, Hasn't Heard From Obama FTA: As he has in the past, Bush refused to "second guess" President Obama's decisions, but noted that he was in favor of leaving behind a residual force of about 10,000-15,000 U.S. troops in Iraq. "The president has to make the choices he thinks are important. I'm not going to second guess our president. I understand how tough the job is. To have a former president bloviating and second-guessing is, I don't think, good for the presidency or the country." Kilmeade asked Bush for his message to veterans who may feel like their sacrifice was not worth it given the current state of Iraq. "It really was. The world is better off without Saddam Hussein in power, without the Taliban in power," Bush said, describing ISIS as a "group of idealogues who murder the innocent" just like those who attacked on 9/11. He added that Americans need to understand the "lesson on 9/11" is still just as important today as it was then. "The human condition elsewhere matters to our national security," said Bush, adding that new democracies, like in Iraq, "take time to take hold." Bush said recently that he used to speak with his predecessor, Bill Clinton, regularly while in office. But he said he has not heard from President Obama except when the president called with the news that Usama bin Laden had been killed. "He has not [called] on a regular basis, which is OK. It doesn't hurt my feelings. It's a decision he has made. Presidents tend to rely on the people they're close to ... and I understand that," said Bush. More at the link http://foxnewsinside...#revealcomments I am sure that Mr. Obama will follow Mr. Bush's classy example and not speak out about his successor. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 I am sure that Mr. Obama will follow Mr. Bush's classy example and not speak out about his successor. he'll be too busy speaking about himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 he'll be too busy speaking about himself. ...and blaming Bush for forcing him to make calculations in his policies that the masses simply did not understand, because they were too stupid to follow where Obama was leading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 (edited) the line between a combat and advisory role is blurry.” I have been following this no "boots on the ground" thing from the beginning. Every time I read that more "advisers" who apparently wear loafers are being sent, I have added them up. With this new 1600, that puts the total over 4,000. I too have predicted that ISIL will go after our troops wherever they are and attack. Once that happens, look out for the drums of war in the USA to get much louder. Doesn't anyone in charge realize that we're playing right into their hands? Since I'm supposed to predict, I'll say before Christmas. It's only a matter of time ... Edited October 3, 2014 by reddogblitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 I have been following this no "boots on the ground" thing from the beginning. Every time I read that more "advisers" who apparently wear loafers are being sent, I have added them up. With this new 1600, that puts the total over 4,000. I too have predicted that ISIL will go after our troops wherever they are and attack. Once that happens, look out for the drums of war in the USA to get much louder. Doesn't anyone in charge realize that we're playing right into their hands? Since I'm supposed to predict, I'll say before Christmas. It's only a matter of time ... So, what do you think we should actually be doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 So, what do you think we should actually be doing? Butt out. It's not our fight and ISIS is no threat to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Butt out. It's not our fight and ISIS is no threat to us. So you're cool with them murdering and raping tons of people? At some point you have to stand up against that ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 (edited) So you're cool with them murdering and raping tons of people? At some point you have to stand up against that ****. Everybody does that over there. Saudi Arabia, Syria, Iran ... Saddam Hussein was doing that and we had to stop him. How did that turn out? ISIS took his place. We knock out ISIS and someone else will just take their place. What you propose is noble, but it won't help anything. May just make it worse. What do you propose? Keeping US Troops over there in perpetuity to try to keep a lid on the region? Even that would have limited results and get our troops killed. Since 1980 we have had 32 military conquests in 24 countries. Is the world now a safer and more secure place? Military can't solve it all. I'd rather see us just help the refugees. Help with the camps. Bring some of the refugees back over here. Since we broke it, might be a better way to try to fix than continue to funnel WMDs into the region. Edited October 3, 2014 by reddogblitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Everybody does that over there. Saudi Arabia, Syria, Iran ... Saddam Hussein was doing that and we had to stop him. How did that turn out? ISIS took his place. We knock out ISIS and someone else will just take their place. What you propose is noble, but it won't help anything. May just make it worse. What do you propose? Keeping US Troops over there in perpetuity to try to keep a lid on the region? Even that would have limited results and get our troops killed. Since 1980 we have had 32 military conquests in 24 countries. Is the world now a safer and more secure place? Military can't solve it all. I'd rather see us just help the refugees. Help with the camps. Bring some of the refugees back over here. Since we broke it, might be a better way to try to fix than continue to funnel WMDs into the region. Please tell me what you know about the geopolitics of the region, it's global economic impact, the merits of leading in the global community, and what happens to vaacums in the absence of power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Everybody does that over there. Saudi Arabia, Syria, Iran ... Saddam Hussein was doing that and we had to stop him. How did that turn out? ISIS took his place. We knock out ISIS and someone else will just take their place. What you propose is noble, but it won't help anything. May just make it worse. What do you propose? Keeping US Troops over there in perpetuity to try to keep a lid on the region? Even that would have limited results and get our troops killed. Since 1980 we have had 32 military conquests in 24 countries. Is the world now a safer and more secure place? Military can't solve it all. I'd rather see us just help the refugees. Help with the camps. Bring some of the refugees back over here. Since we broke it, might be a better way to try to fix than continue to funnel WMDs into the region. "Conquests"? Wow. Shots fired! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Everybody does that over there. Saudi Arabia, Syria, Iran ... Saddam Hussein was doing that and we had to stop him. How did that turn out? ISIS took his place. We knock out ISIS and someone else will just take their place. What you propose is noble, but it won't help anything. May just make it worse. What do you propose? Keeping US Troops over there in perpetuity to try to keep a lid on the region? Even that would have limited results and get our troops killed. Since 1980 we have had 32 military conquests in 24 countries. Is the world now a safer and more secure place? Military can't solve it all. I'd rather see us just help the refugees. Help with the camps. Bring some of the refugees back over here. Since we broke it, might be a better way to try to fix than continue to funnel WMDs into the region. This country hasn't had the balls or the stomach to finish a war in a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 This country hasn't had the balls or the stomach to finish a war in a long time. Please tell me you are enlisting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Please tell me you are enlisting. Relevance? Also, please respond to my post #95 in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Please tell me you are enlisting. If I were young enough and we were actually going to war with these jackasses I sure as hell would. In a heartbeat. You can cower in the corner with your binkie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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