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Bush vs Obama: Who's Worse?


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  1. 1. Who's worse?

    • George W Bush
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    • Barack H Obama
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    • Both are equally as bad
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Inevitable Delay of Lawless Amnesty Announced

By Mark Krikorian

 

There was never any chance Obama as going to announce a lawless immigration decree before the November 4 elections, and the White House finally acknowledged that on Saturday. This is not only because of the certainty that it would have caused the Democrats to lose control of the Senate, which prompted an increasing number of Democratic senators to call for delay. From a longer-term perspective, turning the midterms explicitly into a referendum on amnesty and increased immigration — and then losing — would have undermined the political case for “comprehensive immigration reform” for years to come.

 

But, in fact, the midterms should still be a referendum on Obama’s lawless immigration plans, if only the Stupid Party leadership had any sense. After all, from the standpoint of democratic governance, a lawless amnesty decree is bad enough, but openly saying you’re going to issue such a decree only after the people have had a chance to vote is much worse. Every Republican candidate in the House and Senate needs to make clear that, whatever your views on the substance of immigration policy, a vote for any Democrat is a vote for caesarism, for presidential rule by decree. There’s actually a good deal of support for that on the hard left, but most people, of all descriptions, recoil from Obama’s promised power grab.

 

Note that it’s a “promised” power grab; the AP report notes “the officials said Obama had no specific timeline to act, but that he still would take his executive steps before the end of the year.” So this isn’t some teabagger conspiracy fantasy, but a promise to decree sweeping extra-constitutional changes to the law, but just to do it around Thanksgiving or Christmas to avoid electoral fallout. So, despite the gnashing of teeth and rending of garments from the anti-borders crowd, the GOP must not let the Democrats off the hook.

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Breaking: Obama to delay immigration action until voters can’t punish Democrats for it

 

 

Shocker..........................................................................EVERY decision is political............................and no, there are countless examples of past Presidents (of both parties) who have made decisions because it was the right thing to do

 

Obama is incapable of that.

 

 

 

 

 

What President " I don't do photo-ops" did yesterday

 

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silly, this entire thread is founded on the false premise the president really matters that much. deficit spending, interventionist foreign policy, entitlements untouched, entrenched lobby groups run the table ... all against will of American people. The system is whats corrupt, the parties being part of that just offer up two crappy alternatives that arent really alternatives at all, just carry on the status quo

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silly, this entire thread is founded on the false premise the president really matters that much. deficit spending, interventionist foreign policy, entitlements untouched, entrenched lobby groups run the table ... all against will of American people. The system is whats corrupt, the parties being part of that just offer up two crappy alternatives that arent really alternatives at all, just carry on the status quo

 

Your argument is only true when a Republican is President and the only solution is to elect a Democrat savior.

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Having a different idea of what America should look like does not make him anti-American. Maybe just the opposite. Would you consider yourself anti-American?

 

Obama hates America. He has "fundamentally transformed" America and aims to continue doing so. The first time his wife was proud to be "American" was when Obama was elected. Obama's policies hurt America both domestically and abroad. He indeed is Anti-American.

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Your argument is only true when a Republican is President and the only solution is to elect a Democrat savior.

wrong, ive voted both ways. Unlike you who just votes republican no matter, supports them unconditionally when they win, biatch non-stop if a dems in office. thats why you and so many miss the point

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wrong, ive voted both ways. Unlike you who just votes republican no matter, supports them unconditionally when they win, biatch non-stop if a dems in office. thats why you and so many miss the point

 

Can you post a link to any of my posts here where I have expressed support for the republicans?

 

As far as voting both ways as you put it, there are more than two options. The us vs them attitude is where you fail

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Can you post a link to any of my posts here where I have expressed support for the republicans?

 

 

Why would you do that? Then you would have to defend them openly. It's easier to just attack the Democrats than to openly defend those you support. Oldest trick in the book.
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Left and Right Agree: Obama Is a Cynical Politician

 

It seems to be an increasingly rare moment in American politics when Left and Right agree, but the poles appear to agree on one thing: President Obama is a cynical politician. Liberal criticism of the president comes on the heels of the president’s announcement that he plans to delay his proposed executive order on immigration until after November’s midterm elections.

 

The political calculation that prompted the decision is obvious: A constitution-bending order that legitimizes millions of illegal immigrants is not a decision red-state Senate Democrats in tight races want to have to defend. A Republican Senate (along with a Republican House) would mark the effective end of the Obama presidency.

 

Yet to Obama supporters who believed the president’s visionary qualities elevated him above political considerations, these calculations are outrageous: “What this shows now,” says Cesar Vargas, director of the DREAM Action Coalition, which advocates on behalf of young illegal immigrants, “is that Democrats are also willing to throw Latinos and immigrants under the bus.”

 

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Republicans have long been aware that the president’s policy decisions are dictated by political considerations. It’s nice to see liberals coming to the same realization.

 

All this unity. It’s heartwarming.

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A nation of slow learners.

 

 

Poll: 52% of Americans say Obama's presidency has been a failure

 

 

http://politi.co/1uhQwQ5

 

If only the WH did a better job with its messaging. It's not that Obama is a failure. it's that people just aren't smart enough to understand what he's doing.

 

If he can just explain it all one more time, I'm sure everything will be right again. :lol:

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But this is a Bush vs Obama poll. Didn't the Bush Man finish at 26% approval with only the hard core Conservatives left to support him?

 

If you're going to compare numbers, compare the right ones, you idiot.

 

At this point in his second term, Bush's approval rating was 42%. Obama's is 40%.

 

At the end of Bush's second term, 58% considered his presidency a failure. Obama's at 52% and rising, with two years to go.

 

By popular opinion (which is as worthless as you are), they're pretty much neck-and-neck in the race to absolute suckitude.

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If you're going to compare numbers, compare the right ones, you idiot.

 

At this point in his second term, Bush's approval rating was 42%. Obama's is 40%.

 

At the end of Bush's second term, 58% considered his presidency a failure. Obama's at 52% and rising, with two years to go.

 

By popular opinion (which is as worthless as you are), they're pretty much neck-and-neck in the race to absolute suckitude.

 

And that's with Obama having the advantage of the mass media PR spin machine carrying his water.

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The poll outcome mimics the red state stances and since I don't drink that KoolAid, all I'll say is that GW Bush takes the cake for two disputed elections (unless you still believe Obama is not a US Citizen).

You can also thank Obama for health care coverage - hate all you want but I know PLENTY of people who are grateful to have their kids covered til they can try to get a decent paying job with benefits.

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