DC Tom Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 First " Hardhome" and now "Dance of Dragons". Two great episodes with hopefully an outstanding finale next week. I was really discouraged the first few weeks but these last two were worth the wait. Just one thing bothers me: where the heck are the great Unsullied warriors to protect Dany. I mean really...I get that they had to make it kind of desperate for Drogon's dramatic return but the Unsullied have been pretty ordinary, twice now. And Stannis is a right bastard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 (edited) Just one thing bothers me: where the heck are the great Unsullied warriors to protect Dany. I mean really...I get that they had to make it kind of desperate for Drogon's dramatic return but the Unsullied have been pretty ordinary, twice now. She apparently doesn't need them. Thankfully, when they have someone hopelessly outnumbered and surrounded, they send in one man at a time while the rest stand around picking their butts. That whole scene bothered me, not just because the harpies were so laughably incompetent, but because it paled in comparison to how horrible Stannis and Melisandre proved themselves just prior. And by the way, honest question: Does Dany have greyscale now? Jorah held her hand for a good while. Edited June 8, 2015 by Brandon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony P Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 [quote name="Brandon" post="3576978" timestamp="1433731481 And by the way, honest question: Does Dany have greyscale now? Jorah held her hand for a good while. Great point. She should if the show is true to the story. As for Stannis, this has been leading up to sacrificing his daughter for a couple of weeks now. It wasn't surprising to me but sure was disgusting. As I read on another site: he's a fanatic as is his wife and Melisandre. And fanaticism doesn't have boundaries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Great point. She should if the show is true to the story. As for Stannis, this has been leading up to sacrificing his daughter for a couple of weeks now. It wasn't surprising to me but sure was disgusting. As I read on another site: he's a fanatic as is his wife and Melisandre. And fanaticism doesn't have boundaries. Another strange transition from the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 .As for Stannis, this has been leading up to sacrificing his daughter for a couple of weeks now. It wasn't surprising to me but sure was disgusting. As I read on another site: he's a fanatic as is his wife and Melisandre. And fanaticism doesn't have boundaries. Agreed, it definitely wasn't a surprise. It just completely overshadowed the Mereen scenes. The Hardhome scenes last week made the episode; hell, it was some of the best stuff in the series. This week's big finale...a huge mess of inconsistency in Mereen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Yeah, the way the Meereen scene ended, it just didn't add up. I too thought it was ridiculous that the Harpies sent one guy in at a time, when they had them so badly outnumbered. Then, when Dany mounted Drogon, I kept thinking, "Is she really just going to leave everyone else to their deaths?" At the time, there were still a crazy number of Harpies standing around, but by the time Drogon flew away, they just disappeared... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Another great episode...good foreshadowing that Dany's "husband" was involved in the Harpy onslaught ("where were you? I was just making sure things were in order."). Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe the Harpies are a trained military force -- more like violent fanatics. It didn't really surprise me that they scattered once the dragon arrived. Stannis officially became a villain; curious to see how Davos handles this situation. He'll probably wind up dead. The Dorne scenes were a little meatier this week as well. Jaime's trip back to King's Landing with his daughter and Dornish fiance should be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 And Stannis is a right bastard. damn straight putting his daughter to the torch! what a dick. and the mother I bet she doubts her Red God now Yeah, the way the Meereen scene ended, it just didn't add up. I too thought it was ridiculous that the Harpies sent one guy in at a time, when they had them so badly outnumbered. Then, when Dany mounted Drogon, I kept thinking, "Is she really just going to leave everyone else to their deaths?" At the time, there were still a crazy number of Harpies standing around, but by the time Drogon flew away, they just disappeared... she did so in the books the great Unsullied agreed. they don't look so great Another great episode...good foreshadowing that Dany's "husband" was involved in the Harpy onslaught ("where were you? I was just making sure things were in order."). Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe the Harpies are a trained military force -- more like violent fanatics. It didn't really surprise me that they scattered once the dragon arrived. Stannis officially became a villain; curious to see how Davos handles this situation. He'll probably wind up dead. The Dorne scenes were a little meatier this week as well. Jaime's trip back to King's Landing with his daughter and Dornish fiance should be interesting. Dany's "husband" got what he deserved and IIRC from a Harpy. WRT to Dorn, I like Bronn and kind of glad he didn't get the axe. The Unsullied were a bit outnumbered though. I'll give them that consideration for their ineptness. Though an interesting episode IMO not as exciting as the Hardhome battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Martins' backed himself into such a corner with his directionless Gordian knot of a plot that he's probably waiting for the show to tell him how his series ends. I just hope Martin doesn't end up killing himself off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 she did so in the books Not exactly, because the situations are almost entirely different. In the book, there is no Harpy attack. It is just a day at the fighting pits, when suddenly Drogon appears and causes mayhem, though he basically only just kills people in the pits. Dany jumped into the pits basically to both protect Drogon and to stop him from causing havoc. Although there was an obvious threat to the others there, it was basically from Drogon, so Dany was essentially helping by mounting Drogon and getting the hell out of there. Contrast that with the show, where there was an obvious threat to everyone, but here from a hoarde of murderous Harpies. Dany has retreated into the pit with her protectors and close advisors, huddling and holding hands while they realize their impending doom. Drogon appears and basically saves the day, but (presumably) since the Harpies start attacking Drogon, Dany mounts him to ride him away from danger...leaving all of her protectors and advisors to the remaining Harpies. The odd thing is that plenty of Harpies were brave enough to start attacking Drogon, but once he flew away, they all just...ran? Just weird. The further the show gets away from the books, the less they seem to be able to handle the complexity of the world they created. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 wasn't there a commotion when Strong Belwas got poisoned with the Locusts during the event at the fighting pits which led to Drogone appearance? Save the momma. in essence, without going through the books the end result, I simply meant to imply was that Dany flew off on Drogon to parts unknown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Not exactly, because the situations are almost entirely different. In the book, there is no Harpy attack. It is just a day at the fighting pits, when suddenly Drogon appears and causes mayhem, though he basically only just kills people in the pits. Dany jumped into the pits basically to both protect Drogon and to stop him from causing havoc. Although there was an obvious threat to the others there, it was basically from Drogon, so Dany was essentially helping by mounting Drogon and getting the hell out of there. Contrast that with the show, where there was an obvious threat to everyone, but here from a hoarde of murderous Harpies. Dany has retreated into the pit with her protectors and close advisors, huddling and holding hands while they realize their impending doom. Drogon appears and basically saves the day, but (presumably) since the Harpies start attacking Drogon, Dany mounts him to ride him away from danger...leaving all of her protectors and advisors to the remaining Harpies. The odd thing is that plenty of Harpies were brave enough to start attacking Drogon, but once he flew away, they all just...ran? Just weird. The further the show gets away from the books, the less they seem to be able to handle the complexity of the world they created. I need to re-watch this scene. I wouldn't necessarily call them "brave" -- some of them simply threw spears. When they saw those had no effect, they turned tail and ran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 I need to re-watch this scene. I wouldn't necessarily call them "brave" -- some of them simply threw spears. When they saw those had no effect, they turned tail and ran. I meant "brave" in a sarcastic way. But there were plenty, it seemed, who stuck around for awhile rather than immediately running away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony P Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I need a little help here from those who are up to date on both the HBO series and the book. IF YOU ARE NOT UP TO DATE, YOU MAY NOT WANT TO READ ON. Anyway.... I decided to checkout the latest teaser chapter of WoW released by GRRM and something hit me as I read the first couple of paragraphs: In the HBO series, Sansa's marriage to Ramsey is not legal. "Why?" you may ask? Because she is still married to Tyrion (Unless I missed the divorce somewhere). Was this fact overlooked by fans due to the outrage of Sansa's wedding night? I can't believe that the showrunners simply overlooked this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I need a little help here from those who are up to date on both the HBO series and the book. IF YOU ARE NOT UP TO DATE, YOU MAY NOT WANT TO READ ON. Anyway.... I decided to checkout the latest teaser chapter of WoW released by GRRM and something hit me as I read the first couple of paragraphs: In the HBO series, Sansa's marriage to Ramsey is not legal. "Why?" you may ask? Because she is still married to Tyrion (Unless I missed the divorce somewhere). Was this fact overlooked by fans due to the outrage of Sansa's wedding night? I can't believe that the showrunners simply overlooked this. Sansa is still married to Tyrion, but since they never consummated the marriage, it can be nullifed, or something like that. I believe Tywin said something to that effect during the show when he was still alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Sansa is still married to Tyrion, but since they never consummated the marriage, it can be nullifed, or something like that. I believe Tywin said something to that effect during the show when he was still alive. ^ That, King puppet would only need to sign a piece of paper nullifying it. I decided to checkout the latest teaser chapter of WoW released by GRRM and something hit me as I read the first couple of paragraphs: In the HBO series, Sansa's marriage to Ramsey is not legal. "Why?" you may ask? Because she is still married to Tyrion (Unless I missed the divorce somewhere). Was this fact overlooked by fans due to the outrage of Sansa's wedding night? I can't believe that the showrunners simply overlooked this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 There may be hope for the Dorne story line. What happens with the Sand Snakes is . . . extreme. Very extreme. So I’m really curious to see how people take it. I don’t know what else I can say! Episode 10 sets the rest of the show on a very certain path. It’s a big move in Game of Thrones, and the Sand Snakes are a part of it. http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2015/06/game-of-thrones-dorne-finale-sand-snakes-arianne-martell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 There may be hope for the Dorne story line. http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2015/06/game-of-thrones-dorne-finale-sand-snakes-arianne-martell ahhhh to (sort of) align with the books the people trying to free Myrcella are attacked and she is scarred on her face one of her rescuers dies ... the one lives to escort her home? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 ahhhh to (sort of) align with the books the people trying to free Myrcella are attacked and she is scarred on her face one of her rescuers dies ... the one lives to escort her home? Or something completely different... my bet is on the later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Or something completely different... my bet is on the later. I'm expecting them to kill off Myrcella in this upcoming episode. By doing so, it allows them to merge Trystane's storyline with Quentyn's early next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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