Dragonborn10 Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Correct. The only other player that can be considered a FA loss would be Jim Leonard. So, at this point it is a guaranteed the Bills will have a net loss in FA. I like the players we signed in FA, but it does sting a bit knowing Byrd would've fetched us a 3rd round pick next year had we only signed 2 FA's. Despite some confusion by posters on this board, teams can NOT be awarded a compensatory pick if they have more FA's signed then lost. It doesn't matter how much better the players are that left.....if more enter the building then leave there is NO comp. picks. And if the FA's signed is the same number of FA's that leave the best pick you can get is a 7th rounder. Just wanted to clear that issue up as there seems to still be a sentiment that we could get something for Byrd. We can not. Another example of the Bills FO just not being able to compete. Two years in a row they let high priced FA's walk with no compensation. Don't sign Alan Branch and we get a third or fourth this year. That extra pick is your LG of the future thus no need to sign Williams and a useless ST's FB. There is a third round pick next year for Byrd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Let me see if I have this straight. The Bills should have foregone their plans to sign the known free agents they targeted to fill holes NOW in favor of an unknown 3rd round draft pick a year from now? That makes absolutely no sense on any level. None at all. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Let me see if I have this straight. The Bills should have foregone their plans to sign the known free agents they targeted to fill holes NOW in favor of an unknown 3rd round draft pick a year from now? That makes absolutely no sense on any level. None at all. GO BILLS!!! no, the plan should have been to extract value from byrd another way if they obviously planned on targeting UFA players. If their list was either very short, or heavy on guys that had been cuts or non-tendered RFAs then shooting for a compensatory pick as the highest value may have been reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thurst44 Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Another example of the Bills FO just not being able to compete. Two years in a row they let high priced FA's walk with no compensation. Don't sign Alan Branch and we get a third or fourth this year. That extra pick is your LG of the future thus no need to sign Williams and a useless ST's FB. There is a third round pick next year for Byrd. Made this same point in another thread...the compensatory 3rd pick is not as valuable as you might think. It's way more miss than hit. As for it definitively bringing you your left guard of the future, not too long ago, an NFL team with nearly a century's worth of history thought that same Williams was a tackle good enough to warrant the 14th pick overall in the draft. Branch was a solid piece of the D last year, likely worth a hypothetical late 3rd or 4th round pick. If three of this year's free agents are solid contributors, the loss of a mid-round pick was easily worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homey D. Clown Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 I called this months ago, citing his DB agent as the reason primarily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 no, the plan should have been to extract value from byrd another way if they obviously planned on targeting UFA players. If their list was either very short, or heavy on guys that had been cuts or non-tendered RFAs then shooting for a compensatory pick as the highest value may have been reasonable. Extracting value for Byrd is an entirely unrelated matter. But some around here make it sound like signing Spikes, Rivers, Graham, and C Williams was not worth the TOTALLY UNKNOWN QUANTITY of a future 3rd round pick. Makes no sense. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Another example of the Bills FO just not being able to compete. Two years in a row they let high priced FA's walk with no compensation. Don't sign Alan Branch and we get a third or fourth this year. That extra pick is your LG of the future thus no need to sign Williams and a useless ST's FB. There is a third round pick next year for Byrd. May I borrow your crystal ball for a moment? Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Front Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Carrington stunk. He made a couple nice field goal blocks, but those are about the only good plays I can remember him making. He is likely camp fodder for the Rams. 1 Year contract. I doubt he even makes the team next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Extracting value for Byrd is an entirely unrelated matter. But some around here make it sound like signing Spikes, Rivers, Graham, and C Williams was not worth the TOTALLY UNKNOWN QUANTITY of a future 3rd round pick. Makes no sense. GO BILLS!!! and im saying i dont think thats what they generally mean. some perhaps, but i think they are just upset that we are getting nothing from byrd after comments that we would atleast be getting a comp pick - which after seeing the execution of the free agency plan doesnt look like it was a terribly likely outcome for the decision makers to have expected. i dont think that most are saying we should have signed 3 fewer players for a 3rd round pick if you really drill down into intended meaning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 I truly believe Carrington is a good football player and solid Defensive lineman, IF and BIG IF, he can stay healthy...that was his main issue here in Buffalo. But IF he stays healthy, I think the Rams just got themselves a good, productive player. Didn't really want to see him go, but saw the writing on the wall when two weeks into FA he didn't sign with Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 The wheels on the bus go round and round. New coach, new scheme, draft for said scheme, rinse, repeat, etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 (edited) Should have taken the multi-year deal from the Bills! @HBalzer721 Rams one-year deal with DT Alex Carrington worth $1.5M with $1M of that guaranteed: $500,000 roster bonus and $500,000 of $1M base salary. Edited March 27, 2014 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Should have taken the multi-year deal from the Bills! @HBalzer721 Rams one-year deal with DT Alex Carrington worth $1.5M with $1M of that guaranteed: $500,000 roster bonus and $500,000 of $1M base salary. It probably averaged less than $1.5M/season. Buh bye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Should have taken the multi-year deal from the Bills! @HBalzer721 Rams one-year deal with DT Alex Carrington worth $1.5M with $1M of that guaranteed: $500,000 roster bonus and $500,000 of $1M base salary. Man. That's nothing. Backup money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Man. That's nothing. Backup money. hes never been a starter. he would only be expected to be a role player/rotational guy... last year was essentially his chance to "prove it" on a 1 year deal and he got hurt - this is his re-do of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Should have taken the multi-year deal from the Bills! @HBalzer721 Rams one-year deal with DT Alex Carrington worth $1.5M with $1M of that guaranteed: $500,000 roster bonus and $500,000 of $1M base salary. Shameless LAMP re; value of contract http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/166521-why-no-love-for-carrington/page__st__20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Carrington college ball in Arkansas....maybe the Rams were closer to home..........just sayin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Another example of the Bills FO just not being able to compete. Two years in a row they let high priced FA's walk with no compensation. Don't sign Alan Branch and we get a third or fourth this year. That extra pick is your LG of the future thus no need to sign Williams and a useless ST's FB. There is a third round pick next year for Byrd. This does not make any sense - foregoing players to fill holes now in the hope that you will be awarded a 3rd round draft choice next year. How does that equate to the FO being able to compete? It seems the opposite to me. Should have taken the multi-year deal from the Bills! @HBalzer721 Rams one-year deal with DT Alex Carrington worth $1.5M with $1M of that guaranteed: $500,000 roster bonus and $500,000 of $1M base salary. Exactly. Glad he did not at this point obviously. Even without the injury, I think Branch is the better player so the Bills ended up in a better position anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Too bad he couldn't stay healthy and had to switch a bunch of positions. good luck to him. But let's be honest. What did he really do here? He was a great FG blocker. But it's a good gamble on the Rams part but he really did nothing to justify a long term contract here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailMary Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Carrington's agent is Eugene Parker. Hopefully after the draft there are no ties with Parker now or in the foreseeable future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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