3rdnlng Posted March 5, 2014 Author Share Posted March 5, 2014 Their losing shows how strong they are??? Ummmm....ok, sure. Soviet Propaganda couldn't have spun that any better How many times do you have to have it explained to you? It is not the Tea Party but a large group of Tea Parties. Nobody is looking to get elected and go to congress and have (TP) behind their name. It is a movement to get candidates to move to a more fiscally responsible position along with adhering to the constitution. I can guarantee you that the more established ® politicians had to move to the right to win. Mission accomplished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 How many times do you have to have it explained to you? It is not the Tea Party but a large group of Tea Parties. Nobody is looking to get elected and go to congress and have (TP) behind their name. It is a movement to get candidates to move to a more fiscally responsible position along with adhering to the constitution. I can guarantee you that the more established ® politicians had to move to the right to win. Mission accomplished. No, that guy running in the story for the Tea Party was for God's Guns and saving fetuses and fiscal restraint was down the list. TP is just the Social Conservatives for the most part that's why they did all that anti-abortion stuff and health services for women attacking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Senate Conservatives Fund has accused Cornyn of “surrender[ing] to President Barack Obama,” and the conservative FreedomWorks group has said Sessions “seems more concerned with keeping his seat at the leadership table” than being a true conservative. Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/03/texas-tea-party-104197.html#ixzz2v7KLaHeZ The Tea Party is now claiming victory with this guy?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 5, 2014 Author Share Posted March 5, 2014 No, that guy running in the story for the Tea Party was for God's Guns and saving fetuses and fiscal restraint was down the list. TP is just the Social Conservatives for the most part that's why they did all that anti-abortion stuff and health services for women attacking. Mr. Dewhurst’s race was a significant contrast to how the battle between establishment and Tea Party conservatives played out elsewhere. Mr. Patrick, a radio talk show host with significant Tea Party support, won more votes than Mr. Dewhurst, who placed second. Mr. Patrick is known for aggressive stands on guns, God, abortion and illegal immigration, and his brash style has earned him a number of detractors, including some Republicans. “I’m a Christian first, a conservative second and a Republican third,” Mr. Patrick often said on the campaign trail. Continue reading the main story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 So is the Tea Party the establishment now? they're very strong here in Texas. most people in Texas who run for office and have an 'R' after their name know that they have a better chance of winning by emulating Ted Cruz and Rand Paul than emulating John McCain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 they're very strong here in Texas. most people in Texas who run for office and have an 'R' after their name know that they have a better chance of winning by emulating Ted Cruz and Rand Paul than emulating John McCain. Turning purple though! Over half the kids in Texas schools are Hispanic. This whole country is shifting left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Turning purple though! Over half the kids in Texas schools are Hispanic. This whole country is shifting left not even close. and what makes you assume all those Latinos are democrats? and what makes you think all Texas democrats are liberal? you don't know much, and you know even less about Texas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 not even close. and what makes you assume all those Latinos are democrats? and what makes you think all Texas democrats are liberal? you don't know much, and you know even less about Texas. Ha! I do know that the Tea Party crazies are driving the Latino vote to us Dems. What percentage voted Democrat in 2012? Texas will go Liberal! Or at least Democratic with a strong Liberal tint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Ha! I do know that the Tea Party crazies are driving the Latino vote to us Dems. What percentage voted Democrat in 2012? Texas will go Liberal! Or at least Democratic with a strong Liberal tint. The last Senator the State of Texas elected was who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Ha! I do know that the Tea Party crazies are driving the Latino vote to us Dems. What percentage voted Democrat in 2012? Texas will go Liberal! Or at least Democratic with a strong Liberal tint. You're a dumbass again. You think the Tea Party is why Latinos voted Democrat?? Really?? You're not just a regular dumbass you're a super clueless dumbass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 6, 2014 Author Share Posted March 6, 2014 Ha! I do know that the Tea Party crazies are driving the Latino vote to us Dems. What percentage voted Democrat in 2012? Texas will go Liberal! Or at least Democratic with a strong Liberal tint. You pose things as Republicans vs. Democrats in a very partisan way and focus on winning for the dems. I'd guess it doesn't much matter what the principles are behind your positions. We conservatives don't espouse Republican politics but make it clear we are behind conservative policies. Big difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 You pose things as Republicans vs. Democrats in a very partisan way and focus on winning for the dems. I'd guess it doesn't much matter what the principles are behind your positions. We conservatives don't espouse Republican politics but make it clear we are behind conservative policies. Big difference. You think gatorman understands it's possible to have an opinion on policies or issues without a higher authority telling you what your opinion should be? (Rhetorical question. Of course you don't think that.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 From your link: ".... it merely showed that the incumbents had managed to appease Tea Party conservatives by steering farther to the right. ...." Play it again, Sam. As I've said: the TEA party has already won the game. Now? It's just a matter of whether they will run up the score in November. You pose things as Republicans vs. Democrats in a very partisan way and focus on winning for the dems. I'd guess it doesn't much matter what the principles are behind your positions. This is because gatorman, and most leftists, don't know schit about politics, or how real politics actually works. Therefore they can't comprehend how Marco Rubio can have less in common with Rand Paul than he does with John McCain, but, why both Rubio and Paul can get TEA party support, while McCain can't. They only know that they get their pellet, from the MSNBC/NYT trough, and once they have it, they parrot it. Nothing they say is actually a result of their own thinking, which, is WHY you see gatorman performing so poorly here. He can't react. Once the pellet is parroted, that's it. But, PPP isn't scripted. You have to do you own thinking here, and that means often times the pre-prepared talking point/script/pellet will break. It's not that the pellet isn't based on some reasoning and some logic. It's that the pellet's reasoning and logic is: inferior. It's not designed to withstand places like PPP. These pellets are designed to fill empty heads, and make the rats that consume them feel "smart". They are not meant to actually stand up against real scrutiny...or wiseasses. We conservatives don't espouse Republican politics but make it clear we are behind conservative policies. Big difference. We Libertarians, or real TEA party people, don't espouse Republican politics either. Especially when conservatives are having their nutties over abortion and Christmas, as if those issues will matter...at all...if we default on our debt, or don't get this country moving in the right direction financially. Fiscal chaos will create 50x more, very real, immorality, than every abortion clinic in the country, and porn site in the world, combined. If the social conservative is truly concerned about moral decline, he better refrain from handing elections to the people who will oversee moral decline, because he can't control himself. The fastest way to an immoral USA? Conservatives like Mike Huckabee running their mouths and playing into the lying, statist hands. It's far past time "conservatives" got their heads around these simple concepts. Remember: it all starts with self-control. Self-control leads to self-respect, which leads to courage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 You're a dumbass again. You think the Tea Party is why Latinos voted Democrat?? Really?? You're not just a regular dumbass you're a super clueless dumbass. he may not be 100% correct in his statement but I'd argue that he's made a good point. please post a link that argues your point. I'd like to read it. The Tea Party aka the Republican party has made clear their position that hinders (Mexican) latino's from a clear path to citizenship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 (edited) he may not be 100% correct in his statement but I'd argue that he's made a good point. please post a link that argues your point. I'd like to read it. The Tea Party aka the Republican party has made clear their position that hinders (Mexican) latino's from a clear path to citizenship. Oh, look!!!!! I found a clear path to citizenship, and all it required was a quick Google search! Edited March 7, 2014 by TakeYouToTasker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 he may not be 100% correct in his statement but I'd argue that he's made a good point. please post a link that argues your point. I'd like to read it. The Tea Party aka the Republican party has made clear their position that hinders (Mexican) latino's from a clear path to citizenship. So you're saying current policy has no clear path to citizenship? Do you think the DREAM act had anything to do with Latinos leaning left? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 The Tea Party aka the Republican party has made clear their position that hinders (Mexican) latino's from a clear path to citizenship. Yes, and for a number of good reasons. We don't know who and what is coming across the border. Nobody can answer the question of how we're going to employ all of these people along with Americans and it rubs a lot of people the wrong way to give preference to people that broke the law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 (edited) You pose things as Republicans vs. Democrats in a very partisan way and focus on winning for the dems. I'd guess it doesn't much matter what the principles are behind your positions. We conservatives don't espouse Republican politics but make it clear we are behind conservative policies. Big difference. Without commenting on any specific poster on this board, to say that "we conservatives" do this...shows ample cool-aid on your part. Most "conservatives" cannot see that they--as a group--as partisan as the dems in much the same way that dems can't see how racist many of them are. Edited March 7, 2014 by SameOldBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Without commenting on any specific poster on this board, to say that "we conservatives" do this...shows ample cool-aid on your part. Most "conservatives" cannot see that they--as a group--as partisan as the dems in much the same way that dems can't see how racist many of them are. Of course we can see how partisan we are. Sometimes more partisan. And the reason that is is because we're right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Without commenting on any specific poster on this board, to say that "we conservatives" do this...shows ample cool-aid on your part. Most "conservatives" cannot see that they--as a group--as partisan as the dems in much the same way that dems can't see how racist many of them are. I reject this, as you'll see multiple examples of large scale disagreements among those who you likely view as "conservative". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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