Fezmid Posted January 20, 2005 Share Posted January 20, 2005 Your absolutly right--DB wont be cut--TD wont take the cap hit. He will however trade him and get something in return. 212061[/snapback] ...except we get the same cap hit whether we cut him or trade him. And if everybody knows we're going to cut him (based on what everyone's saying in this thread), why would anyone trade anything for him when they can sign him for free later? CW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConn James Posted January 20, 2005 Share Posted January 20, 2005 What silence? He already HAS said it's his team. You want him to say it daily? 212030[/snapback] That's exactly what I was thinking. He said this a few weeks ago. Even tho he is in no position to be making such statements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted January 20, 2005 Share Posted January 20, 2005 TD would be "general manager of the decade" if he could trade DB. Sorry, I really like Drew as a person, but he is no longer capable of contributing as a starter. I would really like to see him take a nice pay cut this month and remain on as a JPL's backup/on-field coach. If Drew doesn't want to stay with the team after being asked to give up the starting role, then maybe TD could get a conditional pick in the '06 draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob4Bills Posted January 20, 2005 Share Posted January 20, 2005 agreed, scribo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted January 20, 2005 Share Posted January 20, 2005 ...except we get the same cap hit whether we cut him or trade him. And if everybody knows we're going to cut him (based on what everyone's saying in this thread), why would anyone trade anything for him when they can sign him for free later? CW 212064[/snapback] Giving up a conditional pick that could be worth anywhere from a fourth to a sixth is not much to pay to ensure you get your man. In other words, if the Cards really want him, they could work a cheap trade and make sure no one else claims him off waivers before they get their shot. Or, as some astute waller wrote in this thread, maybe TD could package DB with TH -- anything is possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasper13 Posted January 20, 2005 Share Posted January 20, 2005 I have to sneak into his house and fill his tootpaste tube with super glue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezmid Posted January 20, 2005 Share Posted January 20, 2005 Or, as some astute waller wrote in this thread, maybe TD could package DB with TH -- anything is possible. When was the last time you've seen a team trade two players in one trade in the NFL? Doesn't happen. CW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted January 20, 2005 Share Posted January 20, 2005 we wouldnt save that much in cap space by cutting Drew and then we'd be left with Shane MAtthews as our only veteran QB. Theyre gonna leave the QB spot up for grabs during training camp, see if they can rework Drew's contract again and ultimately have him back JPL up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted January 20, 2005 Share Posted January 20, 2005 Giving up a conditional pick that could be worth anywhere from a fourth to a sixth is not much to pay to ensure you get your man. In other words, if the Cards really want him, they could work a cheap trade and make sure no one else claims him off waivers before they get their shot. Or, as some astute waller wrote in this thread, maybe TD could package DB with TH -- anything is possible. 212080[/snapback] I don;t think DB has to go through the waiver wire, as he has some X # of years of nfl experience... If the Bills cut him, he would be free to sign with anyone he wants. Bruce Smith did that. After he was cut by the bills, within days he was a Washington Redskin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted January 20, 2005 Share Posted January 20, 2005 I think the best case scenario is that Bledsoe comes to terms with the prospect of losing his job to JP, steps up to the plate and accepts the challenge and the paycut. Thus setting up Bledsoe in the same roll he served with Brady. The dude's gonna cost us whether he's on the roster or not, and I'd rather have him than any journeyman we'd get anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted January 20, 2005 Share Posted January 20, 2005 It would seem it's even more ludicrous to expect TD to state we are going to cut DB until they do cut him. Maybe TD is waiting to find out if DB will take a pay cut. And maybe they gave him two weeks to respond. I didn't hear Mike and Mike, but if that is what he said, I'll be surprised if he isn't cut unless he DB takes a pay cut. And maybe DB has indicated that he's not going to take a cut? I don't care if the Bills release DB -- if they do, it means they're confident in JPL, and that's good enough for me. But to say, based on this interview, that DB is definately going to be cut is ludicrous at best. CW 212058[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsNYC Posted January 20, 2005 Share Posted January 20, 2005 Does everybody realize that a trade of both Henry and Bledsoe Arizona would be a major upgrade for them? MAJOR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted January 20, 2005 Share Posted January 20, 2005 There are TWO other places DB has a legit shot at starting next year: 1) Arizona 2) Chicago stay tuned... 212059[/snapback] Chicago has a great prospect in Rex Grossman, and is building their offense around him. For exeperienced vetran back-up, they already signed Jeff George, I think, through the end of next season. I think they would be more likely to see if George has anything left, before giving up on him, for a much more expensive Drew Bledsoe. I suppose Arizona is a possibilty, but it seems to me that Denny Green prefers someone more mobile. I think the Cards will make a run at John Kitna. He is a little younger than Drew, and has a bit more upside at this point. If Green wants to go old vet, Jeff Garcia may be available, and would seem more suited to Denny Greens' style than Bledsoe would be.... As one who has had serious doubts that Bledsoe will be released, I must admitt, this recap of TD's interview has me a little less convinced. Comparing Henry/McGahee situation to the Bledsoe/Losman situation seems a little odd, to me, coming from TD. Almost like he is softening the ground for something. Still, I remain steadfast believing that if Bledsoe still wants to play in the NFL, his best option (and maybe the Bills) is for him to take the paycut, and remain in Buffalo. The fans may suck for him, but football wise, it makes the most sense for both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted January 20, 2005 Share Posted January 20, 2005 There are TWO other places DB has a legit shot at starting next year: 1) Arizona 2) Chicago stay tuned... 212059[/snapback] If I was him, I would retire before playing in Chicago. Seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 20, 2005 Share Posted January 20, 2005 All of the specualtion about whether the team is considering releasing Drew can come to an end... They ARE....Tom Donahoe has SPOKEN..... On the "Mike & Mike" show on ESPN radio just mintes ago Tom Donahoe Spoke about Bledsoe and Henry.. When Mike asked about a decision at Qb TD replied: "We will make a decision on the quarterback position within 2 weeks". He went on to say that Drew is a "great guy" but they took Losman very high because of his ability. He again said they will make a decision about the QB position. Then Mike asked about how the veterans would respond to a QB (JP) starting who has never started an NFL game. TD said "The Vets were behind Travis Henry too until they saw what Mcgahee could do". -MY feelings: After hearing Donahoe and these comments, I am just shy of CONVINCED that Bledsoe will be released. There was NOTHING said that gives any nod towards keeping Drew and NOT starting Jp Losman. The whole Henry/Mcgahee comparison really makes it look like they are looking to Losman. Regarding Henry: TD said that they are open for teams to submit their trade offers for Henry. He said he is a quality strarting back in the NFL. My Feelings: Nothing new here...This has already been reported.. 212041[/snapback] Listening to that report CONVINCES me that there is going to be a change at the QB position.....if Donahoe was fully behind Bledsoe he would come out and say it....right here right now.....he didn't do that....more like he went in the OPPOSITE direction...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant Posted January 20, 2005 Share Posted January 20, 2005 Listening to that report CONVINCES me that there is going to be a change at the QB position.....if Donahoe was fully behind Bledsoe he would come out and say it....right here right now.....he didn't do that....more like he went in the OPPOSITE direction...... 212654[/snapback] You're right on the money as usual, John. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted January 20, 2005 Share Posted January 20, 2005 And Bledsoe knows how to read a defense. 212036[/snapback] it just takes him as long to read as War And Peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted January 20, 2005 Share Posted January 20, 2005 You're right on the money as usual, John. 212657[/snapback] Or, he could be using this as a negotiatin ploy to get Bledsoe to take the pay cut! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oneida Lake Posted January 20, 2005 Share Posted January 20, 2005 Listening to that report CONVINCES me that there is going to be a change at the QB position.....if Donahoe was fully behind Bledsoe he would come out and say it....right here right now.....he didn't do that....more like he went in the OPPOSITE direction...... 212654[/snapback] There will be competition at QB in the form of training camp reps. Bledsoe will win, hands down. All the assumptions that Donahoe is throwing Bledsoe under the bus are pure speculation. He's indicating a willingness to get Losman's feet wet some more this year mainly to appease the town lynch mob. No one on that sideline could ever dream of handing the reins over to Losman at the start of the season with the embarrassing showing he had in his first 4 NFL games. All the situations were low pressure, and he looked liked a scared punk. He looked like an RJ understudy, and no team wants to advance this close to the playoffs and start over from scratch with an unknown rookie. Those of you who want to suffer through some 3-13 and 5-11 seasons while we keep our fingers crossed that this kid will produce, will be the first blame everybody around him and then run him out of town a year later. A 9-3 run, after an 0-4 start without McGahee, indicates that this team is playoff calibur with the current QB and some meaningful offseason acquisitions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRW Posted January 20, 2005 Share Posted January 20, 2005 Listening to that report CONVINCES me that there is going to be a change at the QB position.....if Donahoe was fully behind Bledsoe he would come out and say it....right here right now.....he didn't do that....more like he went in the OPPOSITE direction...... 212654[/snapback] Well, I don't see how anyone could be 100% behind Bledsoe at this point. This past season showed his abilities pretty well. I think, regardless of what his plans are, that TD would be extremely foolish to make statements that would lock Bledsoe in as the starter for the team. Unlike many here, I am not all that comfortable committing to JP either. I wouldn't mind seeing them come to an agreement, keep Drew around, and see how things shake out in camp (whether there is officially a "competition" or not). I know people don't like Drew, but seeing the sorry state of QBing around the league, we could do worse. Not a ringing endorsement, but it's probably the best that can be mustered up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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