Campy Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 I feel like I'm more optimistic that the rest of this board. The injuries slowed his progress this year a bit in my opinion. I'm a solid 75% on my EJMCL. I'm looking forward to seeing what he does the next couple of weeks. Me too. He may or may not work out, only time will tell. But he has shown flashes, he seems mature and intelligent - he's an easy kid to root for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Duck Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Me too. He may or may not work out, only time will tell. But he has shown flashes, he seems mature and intelligent - he's an easy kid to root for. yes he is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VirginiaMike Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Mine is in the 60-70% range. I think he will continue to improve with experience. He has a strong arm, but can also throw with touch. He needs to learn to move thru his progressions quicker and improve his pre-snap reads. That takes time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsClinton Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 (edited) Maybe 50-50 that he can be a decent serviceable QB that can, with the right tools, manage this team to the playoffs. 25% confidence that he will be a top-10 QB in the league. 3% confidence that he will be a top-10 all time QB like Manning or Brady who can carry a bad team no matter the talent around him. This is not a slam against EJ!!! I like him a lot, and desperately want him to be the next Joe Montana, but will need to see marked improvement before my confidence goes higher! Edited December 18, 2013 by BillsClinton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve O Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 (edited) I see EJ's upside in the same realm as Flacco and Eli Manning. Probably never be a top 5 QB but he can be in the next 5. As Flacco and E. Manning have shown you don't need to be top 5 to win super bowls. Edited December 18, 2013 by Steve O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 (edited) My EJMCL is at 37.7% Which is probably better than Congress and the White House but much lower than I was expecting through week 14. Since Week 17 is going to be meaningful for the Pats. This next two divisional games can actually have a huge effect on my EJMCL. If he looks better than Thad Lewis is Miami this week and brings it against the Pats in Foxborough and the Bills finish 4-2 in the division there can be an astronomical rise EJMCL. If he craps the bed in both games the EJMCL could reach single digits. The Bills may be out of the playoffs but the rest of the NFL is very interested in the outcome of the next two games. They need to show up and play spoiler its up To EJ to lead them. Edited December 18, 2013 by Why So Serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 If his knees can stay healthy and has a real QB coach I think he can be an Alex Smith type Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 (edited) My EJMCL is at 37.7% Which is probably better than Congress and the White House but much lower than I was expecting through week 14. Since Week 17 is going to be meaningful for the Pats. This next two divisional games can actually have a huge effect on my EJMCL. If he looks better than Thad Lewis is Miami this week and brings it against the Pats in Foxborough and the Bills finish 4-2 in the division there can be an astronomical rise EJMCL. If he craps the bed in both games the EJMCL could reach single digits. The Bills may be out of the playoffs but the rest of the NFL is very interested in the outcome of the next two games. They need to show up and play spoiler its up To EJ to lead them. Well there goes that idea. Now that EJ is out on Sunday my EJMCL is 18.85% and dropping. Edited December 18, 2013 by Why So Serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 I'm not down on him but I'm not confident either. He's about where I'd expect him to be. The good news is he has the physical tools to be elite so if he does finally "get it" he won't be an Alex Smith type, he'll be much better. Granted, there's about the same chance that it never clicks for him and he's thrown into the dustbin of QB of Bills future's past. It's really a toss up at this point but I'll skew it slightly in his favor because he seems like a smart kid with a leader's demeanor. Let's hope he's an extremely hard worker too. Confidence level: 55% By the end of next year we should have a much better idea though he'll still be far from a finished product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 i am confident he will NEVER be a FRANCHISE QB (Top 10) (that's my opinion based mostly on his serious lack of accuracy). for the record, i like EJ, i'm glad we drafted him, i would do that trade all over again, i want to keep him, i want to develop him, i hope he gets better. after 11 games he is ranked 27th & 28th in passer rating and total QBR. i say in a couple years he peaks just inside the Top 20. that ain't good enough for that position. plus he is a QB who needs/uses his legs to be successful. those guys get injured alot, as has already been the case. by now, many know the importance i place on getting a Franchise QB. i wouldn't wait 2-3 years to see what EJ can or can't do. i would pick another QB this year in any early round that made sense. injured and out again but not to worry, thad is coming in.....and if he can't make it we have TUEL....he looked great in the 4th QTR of that one preseason game.....(sarcasm alert). we don't need to be wasting any high picks on another QB. the 27th, 50th & 100th best QB's are good enough (sarcasm alert). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 About 60%. The times we've seen EJ stop overthinking and just trust himself and fling it, which have been fewer than I'd like, he's looked like our franchise QB. My confidence/hope is based on those flashes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 injured and out again but not to worry, thad is coming in.....and if he can't make it we have TUEL....he looked great in the 4th QTR of that one preseason game.....(sarcasm alert). we don't need to be wasting any high picks on another QB. the 27th, 50th & 100th best QB's are good enough (sarcasm alert). So you're going to toot your own horn and claim to have an accurate opinion of EJ's ability because he tweaked a previous injury? Not sure I follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 So you're going to toot your own horn and claim to have an accurate opinion of EJ's ability because he tweaked a previous injury? Not sure I follow. whatever EJ is or isn't regarding health and talent level.....we need someone better for 2014. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 whatever EJ is or isn't regarding health and talent level.....we need someone better for 2014. Someone better, or better performance from the QB position? Two very different statements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Someone better, or better performance from the QB position? Two very different statements. No they are not different statements. That is a hair that doesn't need splitting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 I'm about 70% confident he'll be able to stay healthy enough to be a starting QB. If healthy, I'm about 70% confident he can be a top 20 QB If healthy, I'm about 20% confident he can be a top 10 QB, and less than 10% confident he can be a top 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 I'm pretty disappointed he's not playing. I would have loved to see him in a divisional game and see if he can put 2 good games together. however in the big scheme of things, it's pretty meaningless. EJ will have a full offseason as the QB. Use a few picks to upgrade the talent around him. IF next year he continues to struggle with injuries/ consistency, it will be time to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 No they are not different statements. That is a hair that doesn't need splitting. I strongly disagree. If the assertion is that the team needs better QB play, that's one thing; if it's that the team needs someone else in order to get better QB play, that's totally different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 I'm not down on him but I'm not confident either. He's about where I'd expect him to be. The good news is he has the physical tools to be elite so if he does finally "get it" he won't be an Alex Smith type, he'll be much better. EJ and Alex Smith tested similar athletically. There is a perception among those that don't watch him regularly to think that Smith isn't an outstanding athlete but he is a big, quick footed, fast and super-smart dude. You could nearly flip their combine results and pertinent measurements. Smith had an off-the-charts wonderlic of 40. They both entered the NFL looking very raw. All those smarts and all of that athletic ability didn't make Smith better in just a couple of seasons. EJ has a laundry list of issues to improve as did Smith. There are a lot of apologists on here who are simply expecting him to come out next season and be a completely different QB and I think what we have seen this year..........in this age of passer friendly football.........suggests that EJ probably needs a lot of seasoning. Perhaps many years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Down to 25% with the injuries. He's proving to be brittle so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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