Why is no one concerned about this...

[Malazan]

Awww... you're so cute when you're stupid....

 

 

 

It was reported this morning on sirius radio, but yes... Homey D. clown is one surly clown....

 

Sometimes, we say things with an added flair. You could have simply, stopped, said hey, we're having a failure to communicate and what I am saying is being taken out of context. You decided to double down. Expect criticism.

[Gugny]

 

It was reported this morning on sirius radio, but yes... Homey D. clown is one surly clown....

No ... no one is reporting that he is seeking a trade. No one, as in, less than one person in the world.

[dave mcbride]

You are one angry clown!!

 

No one has reported that Byrd has requested a trade. Not even ESPN (which wouldn't mean crap, anyway). Being open to something and requesting something are completely different situations.

 

Byrd is at the point in his career where he's looking for the big payday. It's that simple. It's likely the Bills will NOT overpay for the 5th or 6th best safety in the league - smart for the Bills. It's also likely that Byrd will accept a trade to a team that WILL be stupid enough to overpay him - smart for Byrd.

 

Nobody is wrong in this. It's just the nature of the beast.

 

If it's true, saying you're open to a trade on the cusp of the season while sitting out most of TC because of the franchise tag basically means "I want out of here ASAP." Kind of like the "it's not you, it's me" line. Basically, folks, you need to read between the lines.

 

As for someone who is "close to Byrd's thinking," I'd bet a large sum of money that it's Eugene Parker talking.

 

For example: http://espnwisconsin.com/common/more.php?m=49&post_id=19401

 

"Jennings’ agent, Eugene Parker, told Rapoport that he expects his client to be in high demand when the market opens."

Edited August 23, 2013 by dave mcbride

[Homey D. Clown]

No ... no one is reporting that he is seeking a trade. No one, as in, less than one person in the world.

 

Nice try... I'm glad you believe that... as in I don't give a flying F__K what you think, but since you're so sure... here's what chris Mortensen said last night....

 

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5307/jairus-byrd link for all you link whiners...

 

So ram that up your pipe you know it all...

[Clippers of Nfl]

I'm not sure if I should throw the flag for bad subject or repeat topic?

 

OP...please change your thread title to something more descriptive. We'll start there, but IMO this discussion should be part of the Byrd signs tender thread.

No man dont close this thread.

It's funny.

 

Like Werder and Rappaport, you're speculating.

 

Your quote was that Byrd "has openly stated he wants to be traded."

 

He has not said anything publicly so for you to post something like this is irresponsible and also, wrong.

A little harsh no?

Edited August 23, 2013 by Clippers of Nfl

[dave mcbride]

Homey seems more right than most here, at least in my opinion. The guy wants out. No surprise there.

[GG]

Nice try... I'm glad you believe that... as in I don't give a flying F__K what you think, but since you're so sure... here's what chris Mortensen said last night....

 

http://www.rotoworld...307/jairus-byrd link for all you link whiners...

 

So ram that up your pipe you know it all...

 

Where did it say that Byrd openly asked for a trade?

[dave mcbride]

Where did it say that Byrd openly asked for a trade?

 

It doesn't say that anywhere, but for anyone who thinks he wouldn't welcome a trade ASAFP, there's a bridge in Brooklyn I'd be happy to sell you.

[Gugny]

Nice try... I'm glad you believe that... as in I don't give a flying F__K what you think, but since you're so sure... here's what chris Mortensen said last night....

 

http://www.rotoworld...307/jairus-byrd link for all you link whiners...

 

So ram that up your pipe you know it all...

I'm proud of myself for being able to deal with such a stupid person and not insult him.

 

"Appearing on Thursday Night Countdown, ESPN's Chris Mortensen reported the Bills have had "dialogue" with other teams about trading FS Jairus Byrd."

 

That, my friend, says the Bills are discussing trades. I does not, however, state that Byrd wants to be traded.

 

Thank you for doing my legwork to prove yourself to be less than bright.

[GG]

It doesn't say that anywhere, but for anyone who thinks he wouldn't welcome a trade ASAFP, there's a bridge in Brooklyn I'd be happy to sell you.

 

Yes, but that's a worlds of difference between him openly asking for a trade. You can look at it also as the Bills don't want to go through this process again next year and will be more than happy to move him. You know, like the other Parker client, before.

 

ps - Who'd want a bridge to Brooklyn anyway?

Edited August 23, 2013 by GG

[dave mcbride]

Yes, but that's a worlds of difference between him openly asking for a trade. You can look at it also as the Bills don't want to go through this process again next year and will be more than happy to move him. You know, like the other Parker client, before.

I strongly suspect that pretty much everything you're hearing is from Parker given his relationship with Rappaport. Parker saying that he's open to a trade is basically a signal to the Bills to get on it or else. Whether that threat works or not I don't know.

[Clippers of Nfl]

Fixed!

 

"NFL.com's Ian Rapoport reported Wednesday that "ill will remains" between Byrd and the Buffalo Bills. The two-time Pro Bowl free safety isn't demanding a trade but is believed to be open to one, according to a person informed of Byrd's thinking."

 

http://www.nfl.com/n...y-buffalo-bills

 

He may well end up traded if the Bills get a good offer, but Byrd has most definitely NOT "openly stated he wants to be traded".

Wow why is everyone bashing Homey the Clown?? He's right for the most part anyway.

 

If there is ill will already, obviously he's unhappy.

Ian is reporting that he is open to one. What is this really implying? Read between the lines guys. He obviously mentionted it to his agent, friends, and probably even to Ian. That's how Ian believes Byrd is open to a trade.

 

Anyway keep bashing him, cuz it's funny. Uncalled for. But funny.

[Gugny]

Byrd will go to the team that gives him the most money. He doesn't want to play for any particular team, per se. He wants to play for the team dumb enough (my humble opinion) to overpay him. So of course he's "open to" a trade. He's also "open to" staying in Buffalo .... if they pay him more than he's worth.

 

That is not the same as "seeking" a trade.

 

The only thing he's seeking is a huge payday.

 

And who can blame him?

[qblax16]

Sounds like he wants out to me, but won't go over the top in the public with it because he knows the Bills do hold the cards...

[Homey D. Clown]

I'm proud of myself for being able to deal with such a stupid person and not insult him.

 

"Appearing on Thursday Night Countdown, ESPN's Chris Mortensen reported the Bills have had "dialogue" with other teams about trading FS Jairus Byrd."

 

That, my friend, says the Bills are discussing trades. I does not, however, state that Byrd wants to be traded.

 

Thank you for doing my legwork to prove yourself to be less than bright.

 

Again, nice try, but you yourself has proven once again you have no idea what your even responding to. You said in plain words "No one, as in, less than one person in the world." did you not? Well it was very easy to prove your blindly ignorant statement wrong, and now that you look foolish you try and save face with more garbage. Move on pal, you can't handle it. Your more than welcome on making it easy to prove you wrong.

[Gugny]

Wow why is everyone bashing Homey the Clown?? He's right for the most part anyway.

 

If there is ill will already, obviously he's unhappy.

Ian is reporting that he is open to one. What is this really implying? Read between the lines guys. He obviously mentionted it to his agent, friends, and probably even to Ian. That's how Ian believes Byrd is open to a trade.

 

Anyway keep bashing him, cuz it's funny. Uncalled for. But funny.

I present to you three very good reason that the bashing is very much called for ...

 

I don't give a flying F__K what you think

link for all you link whiners.

ram that up your pipe you know it all...

 

This ... because he was called out for providing bum info.

 

Again, nice try, but you yourself has proven once again you have no idea what your even responding to. You said in plain words "No one, as in, less than one person in the world." did you not? Well it was very easy to prove your blindly ignorant statement wrong, and now that you look foolish you try and save face with more garbage. Move on pal, you can't handle it. Your more than welcome on making it easy to prove you wrong.

Who reported it, Homey? I'll give you a hint. The answer rhymes with, "no one."

[Homey D. Clown]

Wow why is everyone bashing Homey the Clown?? He's right for the most part anyway.

 

If there is ill will already, obviously he's unhappy.

Ian is reporting that he is open to one. What is this really implying? Read between the lines guys. He obviously mentionted it to his agent, friends, and probably even to Ian. That's how Ian believes Byrd is open to a trade.

 

Anyway keep bashing him, cuz it's funny. Uncalled for. But funny.

 

They don't like my post, so simpletons around here have nothing better to do than bash other people.... I simply posted what was said in the media, no links were provided because I heard it on sirius, which was second hand at best... I gues it's just the way it is around here.

 

Who reported it, Homey? I'll give you a hint. The answer rhymes with, "no one."

 

"Chris Mortensen" of ESPN rhimes with "no one"? See, what I'm working with around here???

[Gugny]

Let's try this again ... Christ, I feel like Annie Sullivan, here.

 

"Appearing on Thursday Night Countdown, ESPN's Chris Mortensen reported the Bills have had "dialogue" with other teams about trading FS Jairus Byrd."

 

You see the bold (that's the part that's darker than the rest of the quote) words, right?

 

Can you please pull out the words that say that Jairus Byrd is seeking a trade?

[Homey D. Clown]

Let's try this again ... Christ, I feel like Annie Sullivan, here.

 

"Appearing on Thursday Night Countdown, ESPN's Chris Mortensen reported the Bills have had "dialogue" with other teams about trading FS Jairus Byrd."

 

You see the bold (that's the part that's darker than the rest of the quote) words, right?

 

Can you please pull out the words that say that Jairus Byrd is seeking a trade?

 

Are you still at it.... Give it up already.... you said nobody... as in no one... I believe that was an incorrect statement, move on already... wow you have issues....

[Buftex]

Even if he hasn't uttered the words "trade me" or "I want to be traded", or some variation on the theme, Byrds actions speak for him. He doesn't want to be a Buffalo Bill, unless the Buffalo Bills want to pay him the amount that will make him happy to be a Buffalo Bill. Move on.... some other team, no doubt, will give him a huge contract, then ask him to restructure a year or two later, or, maybe even cut him....this is the cycle.

[GG]

I strongly suspect that pretty much everything you're hearing is from Parker given his relationship with Rappaport. Parker saying that he's open to a trade is basically a signal to the Bills to get on it or else. Whether that threat works or not I don't know.

 

I don't see how this would improve Parker's negotiating position, especially since he avoids dealing through the press. I'm sure that if he & Byrd want out of Buffalo, they told Brandon & Overdorf directly. Senidng the message to the public does nothing to spur the Bills into action, because they hold all the cards for 2013. Byrd is in for an under-market contract for the year, and it's in his best benefit to have a lights out year. Thus, there's no pressure on Bills to move him if they don't get a deal they like. Plus, if a team was going to deal for Byrd, it would have made more sense to do so prior to July 15.

[Gugny]

Are you still at it.... Give it up already.... you said nobody... as in no one... I believe that was an incorrect statement, move on already... wow you have issues....

So you're saying you can't name one person who reported that Jairus Byrd is seeking a trade; which is the opposite of what you'd originally stated. Thank you. Carry on.

[Homey D. Clown]

So you're saying you can't name one person who reported that Jairus Byrd is seeking a trade; which is the opposite of what you'd originally stated. Thank you. Carry on.

 

so you can't give up on the fact you were blatantly wrong? lol.

 

And I stated elsewhere that I was repeating what I heard on the radio, so yes... the news guy, there's one. Go away.

Edited August 23, 2013 by Homey D. Clown

[dave mcbride]

I don't see how this would improve Parker's negotiating position, especially since he avoids dealing through the press. I'm sure that if he & Byrd want out of Buffalo, they told Brandon & Overdorf directly. Senidng the message to the public does nothing to spur the Bills into action, because they hold all the cards for 2013. Byrd is in for an under-market contract for the year, and it's in his best benefit to have a lights out year. Thus, there's no pressure on Bills to move him if they don't get a deal they like. Plus, if a team was going to deal for Byrd, it would have made more sense to do so prior to July 15.

 

Who says that Parker doesn't deal through the press? See the link above and these two: http://profootballta...than-bradford/.

 

http://espn.go.com/n...nnesota-vikings

 

He also told the following to Tim Graham earlier this year:

 

“Under the system, the Bills were allowed to pay Jairus substantially less than a Pro Bowl player at his position makes for four years,” Parker said. “The Bills, under the CBA, have the ability to restrict his free agency by making him a one-year offer, which we can accept or not accept.

 

“He’s fulfilled every clause of his contract, and he’s played at 15 to 20 percent of what his market value is for a player at his position, and he did it for four years with no complaints.

 

“Now, it’s time. We’ve got to figure something out.”

...

“We’re going to continue to do everything we can to get this done,” Brandon said. “That’s the ultimate goal. It’s never an easy process, but the franchise tag is an asset that’s collectively bargained and that we’re provided, and he has what’s available to him by not being here until when he feels he should be.”

 

That time probably will come when Parker obtains the financial commitment from Buffalo he has determined Byrd deserves.

“I understand the business of football,” Parker said. “I realize teams have choices and options, and players have choices and options. And the better the player, the better options that player has.

 

“If a deal doesn’t work for the player or team, then it doesn’t work. We can agree to disagree. That doesn’t make the team bad, or me bad or the player bad.”

 

http://www.buffalonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20130602/SPORTS/130609848/1004

 

---

 

That sounds to me like "negotiating through the press.

Edited August 23, 2013 by dave mcbride

[Clippers of Nfl]

Yes, but that's a worlds of difference between him openly asking for a trade. You can look at it also as the Bills don't want to go through this process again next year and will be more than happy to move him. You know, like the other Parker client, before.

 

ps - Who'd want a bridge to Brooklyn anyway?

There is a worlds of difference? Ummm. No.

 

It's just the next step. If he is open to a trade, announcing to be open/requesting trade is the very next step.

[In-A-Gadda-Levitre]

Yes, but that's a worlds of difference between him openly asking for a trade. You can look at it also as the Bills don't want to go through this process again next year and will be more than happy to move him. You know, like the other Parker client, before.

 

ps - Who'd want a bridge to Brooklyn anyway?

another link in the Byrd convo on Rotoworld

 

 

NFL.com's Ian Rapoport reports Bills FS Jairus Byrd hasn't requested a trade.

 

Earlier Wednesday, there were rumors to that effect on Twitter, but they were based on a misinterpreted report from ESPN's Ed Werder. A trade couldn't net Byrd his desired long-term deal any sooner than the offseason, so he has little reason to request one.

[GG]

There is a worlds of difference? Ummm. No.

 

It's just the next step. If he is open to a trade, announcing to be open/requesting trade is the very next step.

 

If it is the next step, it hasn't been crossed yet. There's as much incentive for the Bills to want to deal Byrd as there is for Byrd to want out of Buffalo. For all we know, the player's side answered yes to the the question, "We hear Bills are trying to trade Byrd. Would Byrd be ok if Buffalo trades him?" To me that's different than Byrd or Parker telling friendly reporters that Byrd wants out of Buffalo.

[Gugny]

so you can't give up on the fact you were blatantly wrong? lol.

 

And I stated elsewhere that I was repeating what I heard on the radio, so yes... the news guy, there's one. Go away.

You're delusional. Provide a link with a quote and you'll save face and I'll admit I was wrong. Don't provide a link with a quote and you'd be further ahead if you stopped making nearly complete ass of yourself. You look like a clown ... oh .. wait ...

[Homey D. Clown]

You're delusional. Provide a link with a quote and you'll save face and I'll admit I was wrong. Don't provide a link with a quote and you'd be further ahead if you stopped making nearly complete ass of yourself. You look like a clown ... oh .. wait ...

 

lol. that's all you have? I posted something I literally heard on the radio, how F-ing stupid do you have to be to not understand those words? Blindly stupid is my guess. You even put into writing that nobody, as in No one was discussing it... that was easily dismissed like a simple little child, no GO AWAY you waste of time, you've made an ass of yourself long enough. you just can't let it go, wow you must be fun at christmas parties...

[Gugny]

lol. that's all you have? I posted something I literally heard on the radio, how F-ing stupid do you have to be to not understand those words? Blindly stupid is my guess. You even put into writing that nobody, as in No one was discussing it... that was easily dismissed like a simple little child, no GO AWAY you waste of time, you've made an ass of yourself long enough. you just can't let it go, wow you must be fun at christmas parties...

All I have left is a summary:

 

You provided bogus information that - for some CRAZY REASON - can be found nowhere on the World Wide Web for verification (hint: because it ain't true).

 

You then provided a quote that directly contradicted what you'd "heard" - and still thought it backed you up.

 

You've attempted to make your points with abrasiveness, vulgarities, insults and ridiculously failed attempts at humor.

 

And the icing on the cake ... yes, believe it or not, there's more ... is that you somehow interpret all of this as you being right and me being wrong.

 

Oh, and if there is a moron of your caliber in the room at a Christmas party ... you bet you're ass I'm fun.

 

Peace out, "Homey."

[Homey D. Clown]

All I have left is a summary:

 

You provided bogus information that - for some CRAZY REASON - can be found nowhere on the World Wide Web for verification (hint: because it ain't true).

 

You then provided a quote that directly contradicted what you'd "heard" - and still thought it backed you up.

 

You've attempted to make your points with abrasiveness, vulgarities, insults and ridiculously failed attempts at humor.

 

And the icing on the cake ... yes, believe it or not, there's more ... is that you somehow interpret all of this as you being right and me being wrong.

 

Oh, and if there is a moron of your caliber in the room at a Christmas party ... you bet you're ass I'm fun.

 

Peace out, "Homey."

 

 

lol.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

In case anyone hasn't noticed, Byrd has openly stated he wants to be traded, this guy will play 16 more games in a Bills uniform, and that's it. There's no doubt he feels betrayed, and will sign elsewhere, so if I were the coaching staff, i'd make damn sure I had his replacement getting as many reps as possible this year.

 

You think he will miss 3 games this year?

[yungmack]

Homey, here's what you wrote: "Byrd has openly stated he wants to be traded..." But nowhere has anyone been able to find any such statement by Byrd. what we have are a couple of writers who have NOT identified their sources and are claiming that Byrd, though he hasn't said a freakin' thing about a trade, probably wouldn't mind one. So your statement is ipso facto false. Which is why you're being hammered around here. And why all your verbal shuckin' and jivin' ain't convincing anyone. It's game-set-match, brought about by your own statement. Time to head for the showers, clean up, get a good night's sleep and come back prepared tomorrow.

[NoSaint]

 

 

If it's true, saying you're open to a trade on the cusp of the season while sitting out most of TC because of the franchise tag basically means "I want out of here ASAP." Kind of like the "it's not you, it's me" line. Basically, folks, you need to read between the lines.

 

As for someone who is "close to Byrd's thinking," I'd bet a large sum of money that it's Eugene Parker talking.

 

For example: http://espnwisconsin.com/common/more.php?m=49&post_id=19401

 

"Jennings’ agent, Eugene Parker, told Rapoport that he expects his client to be in high demand when the market opens."

 

yet in this situation neither parker nor byrd are making public comments like parker or jennings are in that article.

 

 

 

lol. that's all you have? I posted something I literally heard on the radio, how F-ing stupid do you have to be to not understand those words? Blindly stupid is my guess. You even put into writing that nobody, as in No one was discussing it... that was easily dismissed like a simple little child, no GO AWAY you waste of time, you've made an ass of yourself long enough. you just can't let it go, wow you must be fun at christmas parties...

 

well, apparently you misheard it or the person misrepresented the original report because "open to a trade" is different than "openly asking for a trade"

 

its ok homey, you can back off the assertion.

[San Jose Bills Fan]

A little harsh no?

 

For calmly stating that Homey was irresponsible and wrong for saying "openly stated?"

 

No. Not harsh.

 

Byrd has not made any public statements asking for a trade. As such, he's not "openly stated" anything.

 

This is a black and white issue.

 

Homey seems more right than most here, at least in my opinion. The guy wants out. No surprise there.

 

Homey has good opinions as a rule but his obstinance and insistence that he is right when he is wrong is to put it nicely, mystifying.

 

Just because Homey usually has good takes and you happen to agree that Byrd wants out doesn't make Homey's statement any less wrong.

 

Who says that Parker doesn't deal through the press? See the link above and these two: http://profootballta...than-bradford/.

 

http://espn.go.com/n...nnesota-vikings

 

That sounds to me like "negotiating through the press.

 

Having his agent negotiate through the press is not the same thing as "openly stating that he wants to be traded."

 

The problem with an irresponsible statement like Homey made is that people take it and run with it and something that never happened suddenly becomes something that happened.

 

Why not just say "In my opinion, Byrd and his agent are working towards getting Byrd traded."

 

Stating that something that never happened is a factual event is inaccurate at best.

Edited August 24, 2013 by San Jose Bills Fan

[dave mcbride]

yet in this situation neither parker nor byrd are making public comments like parker or jennings are in that article.

 

 

 

 

I disagree with your interpretation, but I respect your opinion. My view is that when there's smoke, there's fire. The guy wants out, in my estimation, and stuff like this doesn't happen unless there's some serious discontent. But yes, there's no clear statement to this effect. That said, if you read diplomatic cables over the course of last century, they're roundabout and euphemistic too. This ain't a freaking court of law.

 

Time will tell what the truth is.

[San Jose Bills Fan]

Time will tell what the truth is.

 

The truth could be that Byrd wants to be traded.

 

However the truth remains that he has never openly stated he wants to be traded.

[atlbillsfan1975]

winning cures everything.

I believe if the Bills put a good team out and Byrd helps them become winners, both parties will find an even ground next offseason.

Until then who cares about trade, he is not getting traded now.

[NoSaint]

 

 

I disagree with your interpretation, but I respect your opinion. My view is that when there's smoke, there's fire. The guy wants out, in my estimation, and stuff like this doesn't happen unless there's some serious discontent. But yes, there's no clear statement to this effect. That said, if you read diplomatic cables over the course of last century, they're roundabout and euphemistic too. This ain't a freaking court of law.

 

Time will tell what the truth is.

 

He could want a trade desperately

He could be open to any trade at all

He could be open to a trade to a better situation

He could be frustrated by negotiations but ok in buff

He could have a 3rd cousin that was excited a reporter called

It could be Parker thumbing his nose a little but what's he suppose to say, "Byrd refuses any trade options"?

A reporter could made a common sense tweet based on a vague statement someone made based off a common sense guess.

 

The problem with sports media is where there's smoke, there's like a 50-50 chance of fire and this barely qualifies as smoke even if your looking for fires. I enjoyed the "the anatomy of how espn manufactures stories out of thin air" article I posted today where they tracked some worthless comments around the family of networks and how they parrot each other even on abc to help build momentum for their coverage of the meaningless. "Open to a trade" is among the most meaningless phrases I've ever heard. "Ill will?" No kidding? You mean the bills offered him a contract he felt was unfit and he doesn't like that? Suddenly it's bouncing around 6 stations, with 9 people on each one, their twitter feeds, print media and they are all citing each other citing the same 2 tweets from the same anonymous source... Is that really a cloud of smoke or is it two vague anonymous tweets? But schefter says he could possibly get more angry... than his current unknown state of anger... maybe... If something does, or does not, perhaps happen!!!!

 

What frustrates me most is that this could break either way and lots of posters will be storming the board with "I told you I knew it" when it does but this is a situation that's totally wide open and the one thing that's certain is if you "know it" in either direction you've already misread the cards on the table

Edited August 24, 2013 by NoSaint

[billsfan89]

In case anyone hasn't noticed, Byrd has openly stated he wants to be traded, this guy will play 16 more games in a Bills uniform, and that's it. There's no doubt he feels betrayed, and will sign elsewhere, so if I were the coaching staff, i'd make damn sure I had his replacement getting as many reps as possible this year.

 

The defense needs to establish its self, so you could have Byrd play the season out and then franchise him again and trade him to another team willing to pay him a big contract. But having Byrd give the team a good season will help the defense then you could ship him out for picks (He should fetch a nice haul if he keeps playing at the same level and is healhty) if the sides aren't close.

 

My thought is that Byrd was looking to be paid as the best FS is football. The team was willing to pay him a good deal but not go crazy. I would have loved for this to be resolved with Byrd getting a fair deal but its clear the two are at a stalemate and that the right thing for both sides is for Byrd to play out the year and see what happens.