Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 (edited) watch how slow Byrd looks, gets passed by 3 players. Safeties aren't usually the fastest guys on the field. That's why some corners move back to safety to prolong their career when they lose a step. Byrd is slow but instinctive. Good but not great. This year will be very telling for Bryd. With a new D and a late start, he may well be the second or third best DB on the field for the Bills this season. I think there is no likely trade scenario and no long term deal negotiation until after the season. The most value he could bring is if they can tag him somehow so they get compensatory picks if signed away, but I don't know if that's still possible next year or if franchising/Long term are the only remaining options Either way I cannot imagine his stock ever being any higher than it was this off season. Edited August 23, 2013 by over 20 years of fanhood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 How 5 words can be made into 150... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPS Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 24 pages later.....am I supposed to read all 24? What's the etiquette? I feel like When I come late to a conversation, I just don't post at all bc I'm prolly repeating what someone said 7 pages ago. I'd love it if these topics were capped at 10 pages. I can read 10. Anyways. If Byrd is going to be a buzz kill, remove him and keep building next year. Or I love the thought of getting some O-line talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 24 pages later.....am I supposed to read all 24? What's the etiquette? I feel like When I come late to a conversation, I just don't post at all bc I'm prolly repeating what someone said 7 pages ago. I'd love it if these topics were capped at 10 pages. I can read 10. Anyways. If Byrd is going to be a buzz kill, remove him and keep building next year. Or I love the thought of getting some O-line talent. There was a thread that started with the trade talk, but it got closed because it was talked about in another thread. I feel the same way as you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 I never understand these "should we trade so and so posts" because how can you answer that unless you know what is on the other side of the trade 1st rd pick = yes 2n rd and below = no also if anyone is willing to give us a high quality CB no older than 28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 My favorite pundit line is from Adam Schefter who said that the "ill will" between the Bills and Byrd will only get worse. How in the heck could he know that? Can he predict the future? Byrd's back, I'm happy. All the rest is noise. Let me know when he gets traded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 There was a thread that started with the trade talk, but it got closed because it was talked about in another thread. I feel the same way as you. The redundant thread police pendulum has swung to far in one direction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBob Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 (edited) Until I see something more substantial I say BS on the reports. My take, it's butthurt Eugene Parker using the media to stir up crap. Trade Byrd? Not unless a team makes a stupid offer for him. Look, the Bills are in the driver's seat for once. Why do you want to let Parker get the upper hand now? The guy came in thinking he was going to play the Bills like he played them before with Peters. How did that work out for him and his client? Mr. Super Agent messed up. That's the story. PTR Amen!! As long as Byrd doesn't get hurt, and plays well, every incentive that existed this past offseason to do a long-term deal will be present once again next offseason. If the guy wants security, he'll do a deal that is more reasonable. If he and his agent want to play the game the same way, he'll get tagged again, and while he will get a raise, he still won't have the long-term security that he seeks. The Bills should play it EXACTLY the same way again this off-season. If he wants out, let Eugene find him a team willing to compensate the Bills with what they believe is reasonable value for them. If the super agent can't get that done, then he can sign a reasonable long-term contract, or risk a down season or injury for a second straight year. BUT, if Byrd gets hurt to the point of a shortened season, or just plays poorly, Parker's strategy is going to blow up right in his face. And I totally agree, if he goes that route again, tag him a third year. The three year average salary is quite reasonable under those circumstances. And once again, Byrd would have every incentive to still sign a long-term deal rather than risk a down season or serious injury for a third straight season. You are correct. The Bills are in the driver seat for once, and they need to keep their course, steady as she goes. Edited August 23, 2013 by BuffaloBob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 My favorite pundit line is from Adam Schefter who said that the "ill will" between the Bills and Byrd will only get worse. How in the heck could he know that? Can he predict the future? Byrd's back, I'm happy. All the rest is noise. Let me know when he gets traded. but now you just MUST view his twitter daily to see how this soap opera unfolds! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsWatch Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 And I totally agree, if he goes that route again, tag him a third year. The three year average salary is quite reasonable under those circumstances. And once again, Byrd would have every incentive to still sign a long-term deal rather than risk a down season or serious injury for a third straight season. You can only tag a player twice in a row. I'd like to see a new nickname for Byrd - 'Tag you are it' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 (edited) 24 pages later.....am I supposed to read all 24? What's the etiquette? I feel like When I come late to a conversation, I just don't post at all bc I'm prolly repeating what someone said 7 pages ago. I'd love it if these topics were capped at 10 pages. I can read 10. Anyways. If Byrd is going to be a buzz kill, remove him and keep building next year. Or I love the thought of getting some O-line talent. executive summary of 24 pages: Byrd signed his tender without a "no tag" for next year clause. Some suggest Byrd is unhappy and we should trade him now. Others say those rumors are unreliable and no way should we trade him. you're all caught up. Edited August 23, 2013 by papazoid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 You can only tag a player twice in a row. I'd like to see a new nickname for Byrd - 'Tag you are it' Don't Byrds often get tagged to keep track of where they are going? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 executive summary of 24 pages: Byrd signed his tender without a "no tag" for next year clause. Some suggest Byrd is unhappy and we should trade him now. Others say those rumors are unreliable and no way should we trade him. your all caught up. Cool, can we play football now?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDBUFFCUSEFAN Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 You can only tag a player twice in a row. I'd like to see a new nickname for Byrd - 'Tag you are it' Teams can continuously franchise players, but it'll cost them to do that. As had been the case previously, a player tagged a second straight year would have his number set at 120 percent of the previous figure. A third straight year? That's where things change, and the percentage goes up to 144. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 executive summary of 24 pages: Byrd signed his tender without a "no tag" for next year clause. Some suggest Byrd is unhappy and we should trade him now. Others say those rumors are unreliable and no way should we trade him. You're all caught up. Fixed. Thanks for your TSW public service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Fixed. Thanks for you're TSW public service. Fixed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In-A-Gadda-Levitre Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 but now you just MUST view his twitter daily to see how this soap opera unfolds! ok, so this timeline in Bleacher Report is interesting.. According to ESPN's Ed Werder, Byrd is hoping to be traded by the NFL's trade deadline that falls on October 29. Werder credited his sources during a segment on ESPN's new "Insiders" television show that airs weekdays at 3pm on ESPN. Immediately after those comments, Adam Schefter added the following: "Jairus Byrd is back in Buffalo, but that doesn't mean this situation is over." the article then quotes Werder's retake Regarding Jarius Byrd: Acrimony remains, will take time to adjust to scheme, get in football shape, may even hope for eventual trade BUT, Adam Schefter's Tweet is now mysteriously deleted from his feed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPS Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 I don't get it. Byrd signing his tender and Byrd being traded are 2 completely different topics. This site puzzles me sometimes. If Byrd CAN sign a long term deal with another team, but CANNOT sign a long term deal with the Bills until after his 16 week gauntlet, of course he wants to be traded. Especially after seeing what happened to Keller, wouldn't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 You can only tag a player twice in a row. I'd like to see a new nickname for Byrd - 'Tag you are it' Is this true? I thought Walter Jones got tagged three years in a row? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPS Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 By the way, here's the relevant section that, to me says that Byrd CAn sign a long term deal with another club: (k) Any Club designating a Franchise Player shall have until 4:00 p.m., New York time, on July 15 of the League Year (or, if July 15 falls on a Saturday or Sunday, the first Monday thereafter) for which the designation takes effect to sign the player to a multiyear contract or extension. After that date, the player may sign only a one-year Player Contract with his Prior Club for that season, and such Player Contract may not be extended until after the Club’s last regular season game of that League Year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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