section122 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 i really wish he could rest one more game and be abso-frigging-lutely ready for saturday! From the article and my own guessing... He will probably play limited minutes to get him back in gear so he is full go on Saturday. I would imagine we see something like 10 or so minutes. I'm thinking that Saturday (okay i'm hoping) was a wake up call and they come out ready to destroy BC. Last place team in the ACC is the perfect warmup for Duke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffOrange Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 BC is baaaad. Last place ACC doesn't even do them justice. If there was an all New England conference they'd be behind the following teams (just going by kenpom ratings): Umass, Harvord, Providence, Boston U, Quinnipiac, Holy Cross, Yale, Brown. If we can't run them out of the gym we got issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 BC is baaaad. Last place ACC doesn't even do them justice. If there was an all New England conference they'd be behind the following teams (just going by kenpom ratings): Umass, Harvord, Providence, Boston U, Quinnipiac, Holy Cross, Yale, Brown. If we can't run them out of the gym we got issues. I think they need that. I will be LOUD during the game as the last few have been very lackluster from a fan perspective. I was very disappointed in the crowd noise (and Cuse as well of course) Saturday. It was dead in there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 (edited) Getting psyched for the game tonight. I hope Keita gets some good minutes. Not a lot, I just don't want his first game back to be against Duke. I also hope we blow them out. I enjoy all wins, regardless of how ugly they are, but I really want a statement game heading into Duke. Plus, if we're winning big, Ennis and CJ will get some extra rest. Â Go CUSE! Edited February 19, 2014 by KikoSeeBallKikoGetBall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 gonna be interesting to see how this team does during this stretch....a long road trip, some tough teams, tough places to play, this will be a real barometer as to what to expect from them in the tourney  Getting psyched for the game tonight. I hope Keita gets some good minutes. Not a lot, I just don't want his first game back to be against Duke. I also hope we blow them out. I enjoy all wins, regardless of how ugly they are, but I really want a statement game heading into Duke. Plus, if we're winning big, Ennis and CJ will get some extra rest.  Go CUSE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 gonna be interesting to see how this team does during this stretch....a long road trip, some tough teams, tough places to play, this will be a real barometer as to what to expect from them in the tourney  I guess duke has a similar stretch. Coach k said it would simulate a final 4 set-up. I think the same is true for us. If we can run the gauntlet here, we will be really battle tested for tournament time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Blue Shorts tonight... Â Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 this is exciting. shouldn't be. but it is. Â People talk about football and the SEC. That teams that play in the SEC, even finishing at the bottom, are better then teams outside of the conference. This is what the ACC is actually like. There are a lot of weaker teams in the ACC, the last few years especially but BC is proof that the underdog is always going to fight you. Boston College has beat a lot of great ACC teams in the past few seasons. Â I get a lot of ACC games down here - it's amazing to see great teams crumble, stumble and fall against such weak opponents. Georgia Tech, Boston College, and Clemson are very good at knocking off the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Embarrassing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Dee-served. SU has been begging someone to best them for weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 that sucked, lets get it behind and head to durham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 They deserved to lose for wearing those ugly blue shorts. Â Seriously though, Syracuse went flat in the 2nd half and BC played their hearts out. Kudos to them for a great game. I hate to say it, but there is almost a sense of relief losing that 1st game. I thought it would come on Saturday tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Embarrassing I can't get to this place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Annoying that it is immediately going to be followed up by experts exclaiming that Syracuse has been lucky, benefited and opportune times, now facing the brunt of a tough schedule, seeing what real competition is...etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 i kinda feel the same way...they lost and i was just kind of 'eh' ok, time to focus on duke  wonder why no Keita in the second half, hopefully it wasn't an issue with his knee, hope it was just to get him a few planned minutes and plenty of rest  They deserved to lose for wearing those ugly blue shorts.  Seriously though, Syracuse went flat in the 2nd half and BC played their hearts out. Kudos to them for a great game. I hate to say it, but there is almost a sense of relief losing that 1st game. I thought it would come on Saturday tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdevo Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 well at least we will not see those uniforms again. Â Ennis had a few 3's he did not take at the end, but BC deserved it, that patient offense and making the 3 is the way to do it. Â offense has these long flat lulls and this time it bit them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Â I can't get to this place. It was going to feel like a loss if they didn't blow them out. BC is bad, they have 2 wins in the conference both against VT- and we lost to them at home... It's pretty bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Annoying that it is immediately going to be followed up by experts exclaiming that Syracuse has been lucky, benefited and opportune times, now facing the brunt of a tough schedule, seeing what real competition is...etc. Â They surely will exclaim that Syracuse has been lucky, but no one will say that BC was "real competition." Boston College is a bad basketball team. Horrible loss and there is no excuse. I think they would have lost to a JV team tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 i do have to shoulder some, if not all, of the blame tonight...i made a conscious decision to not have a beer tonight...previous games i have nursed one or two until the final five minutes which then turned into a drink fest because the games we so close...tonight i decided to not drink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Â It was going to feel like a loss if they didn't blow them out. BC is bad, they have 2 wins in the conference both against VT- and we lost to them at home... It's pretty bad. Â It's not that bad it happens to every ACC team. Losses to NcSt and BC will happen from time to time. Â Cuse running cold. Easily coulda lost to Pitt and NcState. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 i'd rather we lose to a 2 win BC team than to any amount of win UVA any day of the week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 (edited) Ugh. Horrible game. You could tell it wasn't going to be their night with all the little rim outs and missed chip shots. Â I am okay losing and playing well. But they just laid an egg-- everyone was off. Just a bad game. Â A bigger issue is that CJ Fair has now lost his jumper for 2 straight games. He needs to find it again. Â Edit: just checked the box score. Fair went 7-23 from the floor. Edited February 20, 2014 by JR in Pittsburgh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 i'd rather we lose to a 2 win BC team than to any amount of win UVA any day of the week  Big +1 there Pooj...  UVA fans have been trolling the SU board I frequent pretty badly for the past couple weeks. Worse than any BE fans I have ever seen, and that's saying something with all the Yukon dee bags.  The defense was slow and lazy all night long. CJ Fair was wild and ineffective. Cooney had 2 freakin field goals tonight! You just don't win games like that. I don't care who you are playing. This team is slumping right now, and I honestly think that this loss is the best thing that could have happened to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 This game reminded me a bit of our 1st round NCAA loss to Vermont a few years ago. We were about ten times more talented, and were just sluggish all game, and let Vermont hit a couple shots at the end to win it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffOrange Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 I'm in much more meltdown mode than you guys. It's one thing to struggle vs an NIT team but BC is not that - they really are a horrific basketball team. I mean they're seriously the equivalent of a 16 seed. Maybe we're better off with a 2seed. I love JB but we do have our share of unprecedented embarrassments; that's just a fact unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 (edited) Disappointed....and now over it. They're slumping, plain and simple. They're still the best team in the nation. I was hoping for undefeated, but I guess there's a reason it never happens. Onward and upward. Â GO CUSE! Edited February 20, 2014 by KikoSeeBallKikoGetBall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 I'm in much more meltdown mode than you guys. It's one thing to struggle vs an NIT team but BC is not that - they really are a horrific basketball team. I mean they're seriously the equivalent of a 16 seed. Maybe we're better off with a 2seed. I love JB but we do have our share of unprecedented embarrassments; that's just a fact unfortunately. Â It was a perfect storm of schitt-itude. A really bad team playing out of their minds, and a really good team playing very poorly...without any intensity or focus. I really think this team needed this kick in the pills. Let's see how they respond on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Â Â It was a perfect storm of schitt-itude. A really bad team playing out of their minds, and a really good team playing very poorly...without any intensity or focus. I really think this team needed this kick in the pills. Let's see how they respond on Saturday. Â I hope they respond well. But... It is not out of the question that they drop the next 2; going undefeated to a 3-loss team in 5 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 I hope they respond well. But... It is not out of the question that they drop the next 2; going undefeated to a 3-loss team in 5 days. If that gets them back to the place they were a few weeks ago, I'm all for it. Â Â It was going to feel like a loss if they didn't blow them out. BC is bad, they have 2 wins in the conference both against VT- and we lost to them at home... It's pretty bad. Like I said, I just can't get to this place. I don't care how bad BC is, Cuse has been playing bad enough to lose to UB. I also anticipate all of my sports teams losing every game they play, so when they win its a pleasant surprise, when they lose its expected. Years of the Bills and Sabres will do this to a man. I think it all started at the "Willie Parker" game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 i'd rather we lose to a 2 win BC team than to any amount of win UVA any day of the week I don't think it's an either/or scenario Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 I'm in much more meltdown mode than you guys. It's one thing to struggle vs an NIT team but BC is not that - they really are a horrific basketball team. I mean they're seriously the equivalent of a 16 seed. Maybe we're better off with a 2seed. I love JB but we do have our share of unprecedented embarrassments; that's just a fact unfortunately. Â This. Â This is what is troubling. We can't have sluggish games against bad teams like this-- which is basically how we have been upset in the past. Â Frankly, the 5.5 man rotation is killing us now. nobody seems to have any legs. Get Roberson, gbinije, and baye more minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Â Â This. Â This is what is troubling. We can't have sluggish games against bad teams like this-- which is basically how we have been upset in the past. Â Frankly, the 5.5 man rotation is killing us now. nobody seems to have any legs. Get Roberson, gbinije, and baye more minutes. Â I just don't buy into this "fatigue" explanation. These are young kids...exceptional athletes. Jim Boeheim rarely goes more than 7 deep, and usually plays only 6 players down the stretch. Last year, MCW played 40 minutes just about every game toward the end. Â I think the lackluster play as of late is more related to stagnation. Being undefeated and winning lots of close games without playing good basketball. We know what this team is capable of. We saw them dominate in Maui. We saw them play exceptional basketball against good teams like Duke and Villanove. To me, this team has a good a chance as any team to win 6 games in the tournament. It's all about momentum and getting hot at the right time. I'd rather them slump in February than in March, and I am sure this team will return to form. Â It's amazing the people treating this team like they're a fringe top 25 team right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordio Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Big +1 there Pooj... Â UVA fans have been trolling the SU board I frequent pretty badly for the past couple weeks. Worse than any BE fans I have ever seen, and that's saying something with all the Yukon dee bags. Â The defense was slow and lazy all night long. CJ Fair was wild and ineffective. Cooney had 2 freakin field goals tonight! You just don't win games like that. I don't care who you are playing. This team is slumping right now, and I honestly think that this loss is the best thing that could have happened to them. Â Don't sleep on Virginia, they are very good. With the right draw I could easily see them getting to the 2nd week of the tournament. Bennett is a hell of a coach. Â As far as last nights game, Cuse was due to lose one of these games. There is a reason why no team has gone undefeated in college basketball in over 40 years. It is dam hard to bring your A game every night. Add in the fact they we are dealing with 18-21 year old kids & laying an egg against a horrible BC team last night at home happens once in awhile. Â Syracuse will be fine. Even if they lose to Duke & Virginia they will still be a 1 seed. I don't know if you guys have checked the locations but when they get that 1 seed they are going to be sent here to Buffalo. Last time they were sent here to the Arena I don't know if any of you guys were in town but it was a Syracuse love fest. Had to be 80% Syracuse fans here. They cruised beating Vermont & the Gonzaga. Then if they get the 1 seed in the East they will be sent to the Garden. I don't think it could setup any better for them. I mean they are not going to have to leave the state of NY until the final 4. This setup is even better I believe then when they won the NC in 03 when they were sent to Boston & then Albany. The only thing that worries me is if they lose to Duke Saturday & then lose to them again in the ACC Tourney. Will the committee place Duke as the #1 seed in the East & slot Cuse as a #2 seed in some other region? The ACC tourney is played in Greensboro I have been down there twice for that tourney & although Duke brings their fans there it seems like every other schools fans route against Duke so it will be interesting to see what kind of fans turn out if Cuse plays them in the championship. If they end up playing UNC you might as well play that game in Chapel Hill, it will be all UNC fans there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffOrange Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 I also anticipate all of my sports teams losing every game they play, so when they win its a pleasant surprise, when they lose its expected. Years of the Bills and Sabres will do this to a man. I think it all started at the "Willie Parker" game... Â Haha, I think this is what bothers me. There's supposed to be more parity in the pro's. Yet we can never ever ever beat the f***ing Patriots. 2014 hasn't even started yet and the Bills are already 0-2. I know nobody in NE cares about BC but it's just, extremely annoying that 'Cuse can't be the Pats to BC's Bills. Â I just don't buy into this "fatigue" explanation. These are young kids...exceptional athletes. Jim Boeheim rarely goes more than 7 deep, and usually plays only 6 players down the stretch. Last year, MCW played 40 minutes just about every game toward the end. Â I think the lackluster play as of late is more related to stagnation. Being undefeated and winning lots of close games without playing good basketball. We know what this team is capable of. We saw them dominate in Maui. We saw them play exceptional basketball against good teams like Duke and Villanove. To me, this team has a good a chance as any team to win 6 games in the tournament. It's all about momentum and getting hot at the right time. I'd rather them slump in February than in March, and I am sure this team will return to form. Â It's amazing the people treating this team like they're a fringe top 25 team right now. Â Dominated Maui is a stretch. They were all tough games and Cal & Minnesota were each missing key bigs (more important than BMK to us, probably like a Rak equivalent). Â Syracuse will be fine. Even if they lose to Duke & Virginia they will still be a 1 seed... The only thing that worries me is if they lose to Duke Saturday & then lose to them again in the ACC Tourney. Will the committee place Duke as the #1 seed in the East & slot Cuse as a #2 seed in some other region? Â Duke is absolutely the #1 in the East if they beat us twice - that's what last night cost us. Unless we win 2 of 3 on this road trip (unlikely imo) we'll be on a collision course w/ them in the ACCT semi's. Â Then again as God awful as we've played in some of these home games (St Francis, Miami, ND, NC St, BC) maybe it doesn't matter that much where this team plays. I really want to avoid facing a Louisville or Iowa in the Sweet 16 - they're just as likely to be 4's as 3's I think.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 so hypothetically speaking...if we beat Duke on saturday, do we drop out of #1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 I just don't buy into this "fatigue" explanation. These are young kids...exceptional athletes. Jim Boeheim rarely goes more than 7 deep, and usually plays only 6 players down the stretch. Last year, MCW played 40 minutes just about every game toward the end. Â I think the lackluster play as of late is more related to stagnation. Being undefeated and winning lots of close games without playing good basketball. We know what this team is capable of. We saw them dominate in Maui. We saw them play exceptional basketball against good teams like Duke and Villanove. To me, this team has a good a chance as any team to win 6 games in the tournament. It's all about momentum and getting hot at the right time. I'd rather them slump in February than in March, and I am sure this team will return to form. Â It's amazing the people treating this team like they're a fringe top 25 team right now. Â I would agree with you, but Cooney looked gassed. I mean, we needed a 3-pointer near the end, and he wasn't even in the game. Â I wonder if some of this is a "mental" toll too. You play a million close games, it can wear on you mentally. Â The up-side is that we will be really mentally tough and confident come tourney time (hopefully). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Unc making some major waves.....knockin down that 8th in row by shutting duke down in the 2nd half. Â Would be nice to see Cuse hand duke their 2nd loss of the week. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Unc making some major waves.....knockin down that 8th in row by shutting duke down in the 2nd half. Â Would be nice to see Cuse hand duke their 2nd loss of the week. Â Good win for your boys Ryan. Goes to show you that in college basketball it's all about getting hot at the right time. I will say that based on what I have seen from UNC in the past few games, I'd rather Syracuse not face them for the remainder of the season. Â Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Not to take anything away from UNC, which is really playing well, but Duke laid an egg. They missed about a million wide open jump shots. I think they only shot 20% from 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Agree to disagree on that. Great defense caused that egg. Â UNC team should be the real deal next year with a better Kennedy Meeks and experience from Tokoto, Paige, Johnson. Â You Orangemen better take it down this year....it's gonna be all baby blue next year. Â Â Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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