Rob's House Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 My first thought was that hopefully this will cause him to drop to us in the 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 I like Ogletree, but never liked him at #8. Don't think this hurts his draft stock much, IMO. I still think there will be 3 guys drafted in RD1 who have an arrest record: Ogletree, Damontre Moore, and Okafor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcbillsfan Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Not a fan on spending a top ten pick at ilb. This should seal his fate with buddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Ask a simple question...I could elaborate, but what's the point? In my opinion character concerns have played too big of a role in the Bills decisions over the past decade. In my opinion I'm not looking to hire the guy to be a role model for the community. I want him to get after the opposing QB and win football games. Some have strong opinions because its a DUI. That's fine. I don't happen to share them. I think he made a dumb choice. Hopefully he learned a lesson, but I bet it won't affect his on field performance one bit. The thing is Doc, I never wanted the guy. IMO you don't draft a non-pass rushing LB that high under any circumstances. Then when you mix in the off-field stuff, it clinches it for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 The guy is a singular talent that could probably play any LB position. But aside from the suspension and multiple arrests, if you watch some film on him you'll notice that he takes a lot of plays off. If he fell to the second I'd be awfully tempted by that talent, but I don't think there's any way the Bills use their first draft pick on a LB who does that much floating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Yeah the Super Bowl era players didn't do any drinking in their day Or coke. Or wife beating. Choirboys, the lot of em. /sarcasm And Michael Irvin was a cokehead, and so was LT. Problem is, you knew these guys could play and would come to play. And it doesn't become an issue until it gets in the way of winning. People have argued that the Super Bowl era Bills could have been Super Bowl champion Bills if they were more disciplined. Also, way to reference 20 years ago as an indicator of how to succeed today. I am sure that Joe Flacco is blowing lines in-between plays, Patrick Willis is out shooting up nightclubs, and Brady is taking time off from his supermodel wife and family to go get blasted and get behind the wheel of his Dart. Also, you're talking to a guy who still thinks it was dumb to trade Lynch for peanuts even though he had a bad rep. I think you look at these things on a case-by-case basis, but getting behind the wheel drunk is taking your own life (and those of others) into your hands. It is a problem that needs to be dealt with more severely than does PEDs in my opinion. Take a look at those Todd Helton pictures and consider that this guy has probably raked in about a hundred million bucks and is out wasted, driving and buying lottery tickets. I enjoy a drink as much as anybody else but alcoholism isn't taken very seriously in sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Does anyone still wanna draft this guy at #8? Yes, but... Was never a big fan of taking an ILB that high. I wish we would trade down no QBs are taken until we pick, but that's a pipe dream. Can't wait for the anti-Te'o crew to spin this guys warts. Ogletree could get arrested again this offseason and I'd still want him over Te'o. No spin necessary. I just want the better player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmo Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Man whoever Kiper has the Bills taking in his Mock 3.0 better watch out, first he had us taking Te'o and the catfish thing comes out then Ogletree and now this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Fong Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 The thing is Doc, I never wanted the guy. IMO you don't draft a non-pass rushing LB that high under any circumstances. Then when you mix in the off-field stuff, it clinches it for me. If you don't want him because you don't like him on field that's one thing, but I just don't want character to continue to be a disqualifier for talented players on the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 17, 2013 Author Share Posted February 17, 2013 The guy is a singular talent that could probably play any LB position. But aside from the suspension and multiple arrests, if you watch some film on him you'll notice that he takes a lot of plays off. If he fell to the second I'd be awfully tempted by that talent, but I don't think there's any way the Bills use their first draft pick on a LB who does that much floating. That Georgia defense has a knack for underachieving given all the talent. The program as a whole has bad some issues with on and off field character Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 That DUI just cost him what about a mill or so in contract money , of course in B/Lo that is nothin we can deal with a player that has multiple DUI's ... We did before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Well it's a bit late for that. Does anyone still wanna draft this guy at #8? No. Maybe Mingo now..let's hope he stays out of trouble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcbillsfan Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 That Georgia defense has a knack for underachieving given all the talent. The program as a whole has bad some issues with on and off field character You said it for all the talent on that d you would think they were the 86 bears. Something isn't right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 It's weird that a guy majoring in Child and Family Development has the record he does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Was never a big fan of taking an ILB that high. I wish we would trade down, but that's a pipe dream. I propose we trade down with the Steelers at #17. They NEED an ILB/OLB help badly. They need anyone on D badly. We could pick a QB with the 17th pick, or a guard if Levitre leaves, and gain an additional 2nd or 3rd round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 (edited) i think a lack of self discipline on multiple occasions is NOT the kind of player i will ever root for. Put me down for a no, not in the second either. SJBF It's not the action per se it's the stupidity of getting caught and the extra stupidity of f'ng up while being evaluated for the draft. Besides that there are other options. Darn good options I propose we trade down with the Steelers at #17. They NEED an ILB/OLB help badly. They need anyone on D badly. We could pick a QB with the 17th pick, or a guard if Levitre leaves, and gain an additional 2nd or 3rd round pick. there ya go Ryan. good call Edited February 17, 2013 by 3rdand12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 This, to me, is a non-issue. I don't see a DUI as a reflection of poor character. I know plenty of people with great character who have gotten DUIs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 This, to me, is a non-issue. I don't see a DUI as a reflection of poor character. I know plenty of people with great character who have gotten DUIs. Rob its not just one offense. Thats what tips it for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Rob its not just one offense. Thats what tips it for me. The theft concerns me. I don't know the details of it, but that could potentially be a red flag. This, for me, is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 (edited) The theft concerns me. I don't know the details of it, but that could potentially be a red flag. This, for me, is not. understood but dont forget his 4 game suspension too Edited February 17, 2013 by 3rdand12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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