San Jose Bills Fan Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 To be fair, it says "think," not "thinks," though a question mark would improve the clarity of the topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle flap Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 You can't hold out in 2013. That's the new CBA. If you don't report by week1 you lose I think multiple years now. I just checked on that- he would stand to lose a year of accrued service. He's already had four years, and as far as I can tell I don't think losing a year changes his status at this point in his career, although I'm hardly an expert. But you're right, the new rules are more prohibitive and are designed to put the pressure on the player/agent and get a quick resolution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 I just checked on that- he would stand to lose a year of accrued service. He's already had four years, and as far as I can tell I don't think losing a year changes his status at this point in his career, although I'm hardly an expert. But you're right, the new rules are more prohibitive and are designed to put the pressure on the player/agent and get a quick resolution. I think the point is though, if you hold in 2013, you're under the same contract in 2014 so you basically don't gain anything. That's how I understood the Mike Wallace situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Why do I get the feeling that the bills will trade Jairus Byrd for a couple of draft picks? Does any one here get the same feeling? nope not at all. don't really know why you might think that, makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotpockets28 Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 (edited) Trading byrd for a first round pick would be awsome..theres ton of veteran safeties in FA who can replace byrd at a cheaper price then 7mil a season..the more picks the better..bills need playmakers on offense..the nfl has changed its more a offensive league...many teams with crappy defenses have made the playoffs due to having above average type of offenses Edited March 9, 2013 by Hotpockets28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowabillsfan4life Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Trading byrd would be flat out dumb. 18 picks in 4 years. Why even take a chance to see what another college safty could do. Keep our best players and continue to draft. I am ok if levitre walks but at least offer him 2 million a year not no offer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Why do I get the feeling that the bills will trade Jairus Byrd for a couple of draft picks? Does any one here get the same feeling? no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle flap Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 I think the point is though, if you hold in 2013, you're under the same contract in 2014 so you basically don't gain anything. That's how I understood the Mike Wallace situation. That's also true, but as far as I can tell they would almost certainly bring in an arbitrator and the holdout would eventually result in a new contract. And even before that would happen, it's more likely they'd trade him like I said and make it some other team's problem. Not that we should be worrying about it or speculating. It was a dumb post by me in a dumb thread. Byrd has until July to sign the tender. However, it seems like it is in his best interest to get it done soon: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/08/melton-spencer-were-wise-to-sign-franchise-tenders/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 ..the nfl has changed its more a offensive league... But, wouldn't that mean you need a good defense then? I don't see the Ravens or 49ers D as crappy. Both their offenses were built around QB managers, except that Flacco became hot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 But, wouldn't that mean you need a good defense then? I don't see the Ravens or 49ers D as crappy. Both their offenses were built around QB managers, except that Flacco became hot. I take it then you're talking about Alex Smith? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjohns85 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Why do I get the feeling that the bills will trade Jairus Byrd for a couple of draft picks? Does any one here get the same feeling? If the 49ers want a safety so bad, why wouldn't they just re-sign Dashon Goldson and keep their picks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny33 Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 If the 49ers want a safety so bad, why wouldn't they just re-sign Dashon Goldson and keep their picks? ^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 just one man's musings, but would the Bills entertain offers for Byrd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 The issue with this speculation is that they are basing it off of the fact that we are showing interest in drafting a safety while ignoring the fact that we have a big hole at the other safety position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 I would not do it for two seconds. Really all you are getting in return are two players that are likely 50-50 shots to make the roster and have impact. A first and low second round rings more true but the bengals would likely never do this for a safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artmalibu Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 I guess it all depends on how much are they willing to give to get him. For a 1st and a 3rd it might be worth considering, especially if they dont think that a long term deal is in sight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 I guess it all depends on how much are they willing to give to get him. For a 1st and a 3rd it might be worth considering, especially if they dont think that a long term deal is in sight. Yeah, the 2 seconds mentioned in the article would not be enough for me. You would have to think about a 1 & 3 though. We have no knowlege if talks have occurred on a new deal & if they have whether the Bills think they can get something done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 It doesn't sound unreasonable. I am a big fan of Byrd; I think that he is probably the best player on the team (along with Spiller). If the Bills do not have plans of signing him long-term they could wind up with a 1st and 3 2nds. This would open some cap space as well. I am not in favor of it but there are worse ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 It doesn't sound unreasonable. I am a big fan of Byrd; I think that he is probably the best player on the team (along with Spiller). If the Bills do not have plans of signing him long-term they could wind up with a 1st and 3 2nds. This would open some cap space as well. I am not in favor of it but there are worse ideas. Same page, again. This is the offseason where we sign him long term or get something of value in return. Unfortunately, when people use that line they forget you often don't get full value for a guy but a couples 2's gives us more than 16 games and gone. I'd prefer the extension assuming the demands aren't totally unreasonable though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 I'm in favor of trading an above-average player in return for high (1st - 3rd) draft picks in order to avoid the nightmare scenario of letting a guy like this walk away next year a la Levitre and, to a lesser extent, Chas Rhinegold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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