26TrapDraw Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 If our hopes are dashed to bits and Gailey and Nix are retained why not go after Alex Smith? I know he's not a great QB but he's accurate and he is a way better game manager.Thats the difference between him and Pickspatrick...plus he may not overthrow a wide open receiver by 5 yards down the sideline. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 OH GOD, WHY? (Your 2013 Buffalo Bills) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 He's a system QB that might well be suited for the Bills, however, I want a QB that can win in any situation he's put in. I'm not sure that's in the cards this season in the draft but sooner rather than later please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 (edited) If Gailey is retained, I don't care who is at QB next year because I won't watch a single game. Do you really think a different QB is going to help this clueless coach? The guy has been a loser everywhere he's been. He would fail with Tom Brady as his QB. Edited December 20, 2012 by Azucho98 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 If Gailey is retained, I don't care who is at QB next year because I won't watch a single game. Do you really think a different QB is going to help this clueless coach? The guy has been a loser everywhere he's been. He would fail with Tom Brady as his QB. I'm not going to comment on this, take a look at my signature and look at my constant posts in the continuity thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 I'm not going to comment on this, take a look at my signature and look at my constant posts in the continuity thread. mmmmmmm ok...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markgbe Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 (edited) defense first. Unless we can get Peyton, Brees, Brady, Rodgers... no other QB can make up for a defense that allows 100000000 points per game. oh, and i'd much prefer giving Matt Flynn a shot if it could happen. Edited December 20, 2012 by markgbe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 It would only make sense if we took Smith and got rid of Gailey. "Continuity" is the answer forwarded by those who have no idea what to do next. There is no logic to the thinking that "we can't keep changing HC's every 3 years" when we keep picking HC's so poorly. It should be obvious that the solution is not to keep the bad coaches another year (and.......what?), but to stop picking such bad coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 No thanks. I'd rather draft one CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Cain Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 It would only make sense if we took Smith and got rid of Gailey. "Continuity" is the answer forwarded by those who have no idea what to do next. There is no logic to the thinking that "we can't keep changing HC's every 3 years" when we keep picking HC's so poorly. It should be obvious that the solution is not to keep the bad coaches another year (and.......what?), but to stop picking such bad coaches. First, this route is what I think we should do next, so saying that I have no idea what to do next is illogical. By choosing a side and defending it, I have chosen a clear path to which I think is the best course of action. Secondly, after 2 failed 3 and out regimes, would you expect them to get it right this time. Oh here we go, got me going again. Why do I fall into these traps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 (edited) First, this route is what I think we should do next, so saying that I have no idea what to do next is illogical. By choosing a side and defending it, I have chosen a clear path to which I think is the best course of action. Secondly, after 2 failed 3 and out regimes, would you expect them to get it right this time. Oh here we go, got me going again. Why do I fall into these traps? So your "next step" is to do nothing different.. This is a logical argument? No, it's not, unless you've changed the definition of "next". Neither is assuming the Bills will never pick a competent HC is the reason to keep the current absolutely awful and incompetent HC. So a "4 and out " would be much more reasonable/logical? Edited December 20, 2012 by Mr. WEO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWings Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 (edited) First, this route is what I think we should do next, so saying that I have no idea what to do next is illogical. By choosing a side and defending it, I have chosen a clear path to which I think is the best course of action. Secondly, after 2 failed 3 and out regimes, would you expect them to get it right this time. Oh here we go, got me going again. Why do I fall into these traps? I understand the reasons for continuity, but why continue with something that isn't working or shows no signs of improvement? I made this claim after Jauron's 3rd year. That said, perhaps there is something in the works that would allow Gailey another year or two. It's clear to everyone (despite what Nix & Gailey are saying) that Fitz isn't the answer. So, I can see the Bills moving up to draft a QB in round 1 or 2. Word has it that Buddy was scouting Tarvaris Jackson during his time in San Diego and really wanted him, but he was gone by the time they wanted to draft him. Perhaps with Jackson on board, they move up to get Geno Smith and have a couple of QBs that Gailey could use in his system. With Jackson having a year in Gailey's offense (I know...he hasn't played), then I can see Fitz being let go, Jackson starting the season in 2013, and then playing Smith when he's ready. Don't get me wrong - I wouldn't be upset if Gailey's gone and they bring in some new blood, as much as I've been frustrated with Gailey's play-calling and in-game management. But I still can't see him being let go now. If the above plan doesn't work after the next year or so, then it's time. What really should happen is that Gailey needs to hand the play-calling duties over to someone else. It really hasn't worked with him trying to do that and manage the game simultaneously. Edited December 20, 2012 by BuffaloWings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 I'd totally be down with this provided we also draft an early round QB to develop. However, I have seen no indication that he will be traded. It's too early to tell what they have in Kaepernick, plus why trade away a QB that you have proven you can win with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 This has been discuessed but I say yes. He has improved imensely over the past three seasons and he is our best shot at making the playoffs next season. not a ten year answer but a 2-4 tear one perhaps. Draft a QB too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 (edited) If our hopes are dashed to bits and Gailey and Nix are retained why not go after Alex Smith? I know he's not a great QB but he's accurate and he is a way better game manager.Thats the difference between him and Pickspatrick...plus he may not overthrow a wide open receiver by 5 yards down the sideline. Thoughts? Trading for Alex Smith has been discussed a lot in this thread: http://forums.twobil...th/page__st__60 (my support for this idea is also in that thread). It is something worth considering whether or not Gailey is retained. But not as the long term answer - for the next 3 years or so before we draft for a true 'franchise' QB and he is ready to take over. Edited December 20, 2012 by Fan in Chicago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 First, this route is what I think we should do next, so saying that I have no idea what to do next is illogical. By choosing a side and defending it, I have chosen a clear path to which I think is the best course of action. Secondly, after 2 failed 3 and out regimes, would you expect them to get it right this time. Oh here we go, got me going again. Why do I fall into these traps? I don't understand why you're so in favor of continuity but then say that "one more year" is the way to go. In that case, why not just tell Chan: "you got 10 more years to get this right Chan." Wouldn't that be continuity? 3 and out is bad but 4 and out is ok? Chan's job needs to be seriously evaluated. If the bills win the next two games and show some fight/resiliency, i'd be in favor of keeping Chan for another year. If we continue to have the pathetic showings in the next two weeks we had vs. the seawhawks, Chan needs to be fired. End of story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12Kachy Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Dump fitzmoney, sign alex smith and draft a rookie qb in 1st or 2nd round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just in Atlanta Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Fitzmoney. That's funny. His contract is quite average, as his abilities. Signing Alex Smith is ridiculous. His skills are only slightly better than Fitz. Smith thrived because of defense. He was unseated midseason. Tired of this constant drumbeat of picking up other teams' throwaways. Let's draft a young QB, and have him learn behind Fitz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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