Peter Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 (edited) Some here and elsewhere have speculated about the reasons why the Bills traded up to pick TJ Graham. Mike Mularkey was on Sirius NFL radio Wednesday. Among the things he was asked was why the Jaguars picked the punter in the third round. Mularkey basically stated that the Jaguars were going to pick someone else who was picked just before them so they went with the punter out of Cal who was high on their board. He did not say specifically that it was pick immediately before their pick, but it certainly could have been. In any event, I thought that this was interesting and certainly adds credence to why the Bills traded the extra seventh round pick to move ahead of the Jaguars. It also adds credence to the thought that other teams had Graham rated as highly as we did. I thought that some of you may be interested in the above. Edited May 3, 2012 by Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 I'd like to see a quote of him saying something about him, a WR, a playmaker, something, anything and I might believe it. The more I hear about this guy the more excited I am. I was a sprinter and hurdler in HS and he calls to me a bit. I've heard anywhere from 4.29 to 4.35 speed. Carl Lewis ran a 4.29, so that's pretty damn fast if it's true. I'm hoping he's closer to Desean Jackson than Lee Evans or Roscoe Parrish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 (edited) I don't feel bad about the Graham pick, but I would actually be less confident about it if you told me that turd Mullarkey was interested in him. Edited May 3, 2012 by Special K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 Thanks for posting! Keep in mind that the Bills once traded up (from the top of the 3rd to the bottom of the 2nd) to get Ryan Denney. They only traded up a few spots, and only to leapfrog the Steelers, who were expected to take Denney. Just because you got your guy doesn't mean it will work out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tennesseeboy Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 I don't feel bad about the Graham pick, but I would actually be less confident about it if you told me that turd Mullarkey was interested in him. I agree...I was very high on Graham, talent wise, speed-wise and character wise. Now that I hear Mularkey might have liked him I'm wondering whether it was a good pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 I agree...I was very high on Graham, talent wise, speed-wise and character wise. Now that I hear Mularkey might have liked him I'm wondering whether it was a good pick. Take solice in knowing that Mularkey was so upset after he threw a dart on the board and picked a punter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckeyeBill Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 (edited) I'm excited that Shawn Powell is a much better punter than Bryan Anger, and we picked up our future punter as an undrafted free agent. 2011 Stats: Powell: 57 punts 47.0 average Anger: 55 punts 44.25 average Go Bills! Edited May 3, 2012 by BuckeyeBill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandemonium Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 Thanks for posting! Keep in mind that the Bills once traded up (from the top of the 3rd to the bottom of the 2nd) to get Ryan Denney. They only traded up a few spots, and only to leapfrog the Steelers, who were expected to take Denney. Just because you got your guy doesn't mean it will work out. The Bills' biggest mistake with Denney was not playing him at TE and bringing Moorman in at QB for more red zone situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 Some here and elsewhere have speculated about the reasons why the Bills traded up to pick TJ Graham. Mike Mularkey was on Sirius NFL radio Wednesday. Among the things he was asked was why the Jaguars picked the punter in the third round. Mularkey basically stated that the Jaguars were going to pick someone else who was picked just before them so they went with the punter out of Cal who was high on their board. [/font] He did not say specifically that it was pick immediately before their pick, but it certainly could have been. In any event, I thought that this was interesting and certainly adds credence to why the Bills traded the extra seventh round pick to move ahead of the Jaguars. It also adds credence to the thought that other teams had Graham rated as highly as we did. I thought that some of you may be interested in the above. Whether Graham was the player they wanted to take doesn't rationalize their taking a punter in the third round. The Jaguars are a bad team with a lot of needs. Selecting a punter at such a high point in the draft makes absolutely no sense. There are many good players on the board in the third round who could have been added to their depleted roster. If they coveted this particular punter they could have gotten him in the fifth round. If he wouuld have been picked by another team then so what? Maybe a case can be made for drafting a punter in the third round by a superior team that has all its needs met but is lacking a good punter who would help them get better field position. That situation certainly doesn't apply to the Jaguars who are a bottom feeding team. As the original poster suggested most of the commentary by NFL analysts relating to Graham has been very positive. At first, because I never heard of Graham, I was a little bit confused and unsettled by his selection. The more that I find out about him the more I like that selection. Nix's instinct was probably right that Graham was subject to being taking before our pick came up. Instead of assuming that risk he was proactive and made the move to get him. I give him credit for making the small deal to get the player he had a conviction on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 The Bills' biggest mistake with Denney was not playing him at TE and bringing Moorman in at QB for more red zone situations. what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 what? I was at that Seattle game--that play (fake FG pass from Moorman to Denney to score) was a thing of beauty.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 None of this alters that Graham is easy to separate from the football. Will be curious to see if anyone in Buffalo management addresses this and why they feel it is correctable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafter Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 Whether Graham was the player they wanted to take doesn't rationalize their taking a punter in the third round. The Jaguars are a bad team with a lot of needs. Selecting a punter at such a high point in the draft makes absolutely no sense. There are many good players on the board in the third round who could have been added to their depleted roster. If they coveted this particular punter they could have gotten him in the fifth round. If he wouuld have been picked by another team then so what? Maybe a case can be made for drafting a punter in the third round by a superior team that has all its needs met but is lacking a good punter who would help them get better field position. That situation certainly doesn't apply to the Jaguars who are a bottom feeding team. As the original poster suggested most of the commentary by NFL analysts relating to Graham has been very positive. At first, because I never heard of Graham, I was a little bit confused and unsettled by his selection. The more that I find out about him the more I like that selection. Nix's instinct was probably right that Graham was subject to being taking before our pick came up. Instead of assuming that risk he was proactive and made the move to get him. I give him credit for making the small deal to get the player he had a conviction on. Their QB is Blaine Gabbert. They expect to punt. A LOT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 I was at that Seattle game--that play (fake FG pass from Moorman to Denney to score) was a thing of beauty.... My seats are on the Bills side, 10 yd line (12 rows back) and saw the whole thing. It was a great opening day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDD Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 I don't feel bad about the Graham pick, but I would actually be less confident about it if you told me that turd Mullarkey was interested in him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 None of this alters that Graham is easy to separate from the football. Will be curious to see if anyone in Buffalo management addresses this and why they feel it is correctable. Fumbling is VERY fixable. One of the easier things to correct with coaching. Tiki is just one case where in one year a guy went from having fumblitis to being completely cured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 Great news. I didn't want him but now that I know someone else wanted him and we stole him I love him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmscully Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 Right after the Bills selected Graham by trading up, I started looking into why this happened. I don't remember the source, but their were rumors that Jacksonville was the team that wanted Graham. This was right after our selection. It actually all adds up. Maybe somebody with more time can look into this and verify this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 And somebody who let the Bills move up for a 7th round pick probably enjoyed putting it to Jacksonville Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 (edited) As the original poster suggested most of the commentary by NFL analysts relating to Graham has been very positive. At first, because I never heard of Graham, I was a little bit confused and unsettled by his selection. The more that I find out about him the more I like that selection. Nix's instinct was probably right that Graham was subject to being taking before our pick came up. Instead of assuming that risk he was proactive and made the move to get him. I give him credit for making the small deal to get the player he had a conviction on. Jared Kracker piece on TJ/family Edited May 3, 2012 by Beerball credit where credit is due Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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